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Drj820 wrote:
13 Aug 2022 18:18
Im gonna laugh very hard when Mitch biscuit becomes very good for the Steelers after nagy tried to ruin the young chap
I don't understand the Trubisky nickname to be honest. Not sure what it means. He is 11 games over 500 on &%$@ teams. You could do worse I guess.

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Realist wrote:
14 Aug 2022 17:55
Drj820 wrote:
13 Aug 2022 18:18
Im gonna laugh very hard when Mitch biscuit becomes very good for the Steelers after nagy tried to ruin the young chap
I don't understand the Trubisky nickname to be honest. Not sure what it means. He is 11 games over 500 on &%$@ teams. You could do worse I guess.
I'd take Trubisky as a back-up. With better coaching he could become a successful NFL QB. Doesn't seem to be a quitter.

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This isn't going to make negotiations with Savage any easier.

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NCF wrote:
17 Aug 2022 08:59
This isn't going to make negotiations with Savage any easier.

To get 2xAll-Pro -money, Savage would need to have one helluva year, and I'd be all for it. :lol:
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salmar80 wrote:
17 Aug 2022 09:08
To get 2xAll-Pro -money, Savage would need to have one helluva year, and I'd be all for it.
I am not expecting Savage to be at the top of the market, but that ceiling just went way up.
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NCF wrote:
17 Aug 2022 09:11
salmar80 wrote:
17 Aug 2022 09:08
To get 2xAll-Pro -money, Savage would need to have one helluva year, and I'd be all for it.
I am not expecting Savage to be at the top of the market, but that ceiling just went way up.
:messedup: There are now 5 safeties making over 15M per year.

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I think I'd let him walk, personally, especially with how well the guys behind him are playing. :idn:
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Labrev wrote:
17 Aug 2022 10:04
I think I'd let him walk, personally, especially with how well the guys behind him are playing. :idn:
We already picked up his 5th-year option.

So he's under contract for 2022 and 2023. There's a lot of time between now and then to determine if we should or shouldn't let him walk. I think he's a slow learner with the mental side of the game. He started to click in the former defense and took a step back last year with a new defense. I'll hold to see if he jumps forward as this season progresses.

I understand that we're in the extension window, so it's not too early to talk about. But I don't generally think that top-of-market safety contracts in August 2022 have a major impact on the Savage decision at present.

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YoHoChecko wrote:
17 Aug 2022 10:10
But I don't generally think that top-of-market safety contracts in August 2022 have a major impact on the Savage decision at present.
I think anytime the top of the market moves it trickles down to every player at that position. I get your points on timing, but this definitely impacts the Savage decision, especially in the shorter-term of the window.
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NCF wrote:
17 Aug 2022 10:15
YoHoChecko wrote:
17 Aug 2022 10:10
But I don't generally think that top-of-market safety contracts in August 2022 have a major impact on the Savage decision at present.
I think anytime the top of the market moves it trickles down to every player at that position. I get your points on timing, but this definitely impacts the Savage decision, especially in the shorter-term of the window.
That’s how a guy like MVS gets 10M a season.
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Put me in the amos camp. He's a little older but this moves his needle

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Backthepack4ever wrote:
17 Aug 2022 11:33
Put me in the amos camp. He's a little older but this moves his needle
He also has some cap charges on void years right now, so it would be cap-prudent to extend him through that timeline so that we're not paying dead money for a guy after he's gone.

I wonder what Amos' market would be. He's consistent at an elite level, but not elite at a consistent level.

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But yeah, with Amos unsigned after 2022 and Savage after 2023, this would have been a very ideal year to draft a safety with a decent pick, or perhaps even a couple late rounders (the Moore/MVS/EQ, Williams/Jones/Mays, Runyan/Hansen/Stepaniak strategy). At least give yourself the option of not A) overpaying out of necessity, B) having to sign a stop gap FA, still overpaid, or C) not have just complete question marks back there.

I feel like our D has a chance to be too good the next handful or years, would be a shame to screw that up by having some complete liabilities back there simply for the lack of trying/cap space.
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BF004 wrote:
17 Aug 2022 11:41
But yeah, with Amos unsigned after 2022 and Savage after 2023, this would have been a very ideal year to draft a safety with a decent pick, or perhaps even a couple late rounders (the Moore/MVS/EQ, Williams/Jones/Mays, Runyan/Hansen/Stepaniak strategy). At least give yourself the option of not A) overpaying out of necessity, B) having to sign a stop gap FA, still overpaid, or C) not have just complete question marks back there.

I feel like our D has a chance to be too good the next handful or years, would be a shame to screw that up by having some complete liabilities back there simply for the lack of trying/cap space.
I think safety is the one position on D where you can find good-to-ok talent at a rather cheap price. Difference makers cost a lot, of course, but you don't have to stoop to "liabilities" for the lack of cap space like at premium positions.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
18 Aug 2022 11:12
Poor NHL. Even the Big10 rakes in more...

Little surprised by SEC standing. I guess their one-trick-pony football dependence only gets them so far.

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Watson, 11 games, fined, treatment.

Bardy - is he retiring again? Bowles doesn't seem to know when he will rejoin the team.

Lions - still suck.

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Ghost_Lombardi wrote:
18 Aug 2022 12:08
Watson, 11 games, fined, treatment.

Bardy - is he retiring again? Bowles doesn't seem to know when he will rejoin the team.

Lions - still suck.
Brady just needs some media attention turned back on him for a week or two. Can't blame him, it's been like 2 minutes since the ESPN series about him finished...

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11 penalties wow lmao, already in midseason form I see...

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