Packers @ Buccaneers GDT: Sunday, Sept. 25th, 3:25 PM CST

[lake shark]

Big brained move by GB: make sure no one who Rodgers trusts plays, that way he has no choice but to actually throw it to who's open!

Playing chess, baby

Agreed! Unfortunately the sidelines are always open.

[BF004]

The Packers have listed receivers Christian Watson (hamstring) and Randall Cobb (illness), tight end Marcedes Lewis (groin) and tackle David Bakhtiari (knee) as questionable for Sunday's game against Tampa Bay.

Receiver Allen Lazard (ankle), defensive lineman Kenny Clark (groin), offensive lineman Elgton Jenkins (knee) and kicker Mason Crosby (illness) didn't receive game statuses and are expected to play. It'll mark Crosby's 244th consecutive game played.

Receiver Sammy Watkins (hamstring) has been ruled out after not practicing since Wednesday.

The Buccaneers ruled out receiver Chris Godwin (hamstring) and defensive tackle Akiem Hicks (foot), while left tackle Donovan Smith (elbow) and tight end Cade Otton (personal) are doubtful. Smith didn't practice Friday after returning to practice on Thursday.

Four Buccaneers have been listed as questionable: running back: Leonard Fournette (hamstring), and receivers Julio Jones (knee) receiver Breshad Perriman (knee), and Russell Gage (hamstring)

Tampa Bay didn't give a game status for the following players who are all expected to be available: quarterback Tom Brady (right finger), linebacker Lavante David (rest), cornerback Carlton Davis (hip), receiver Scotty Miller (calf), cornerback Zyon McCollum (hamstring) and center Robert Hainsey (knee).

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-bu ... pt-23-2022

Fournette questionable too, dear lord.

And then Godwin out and Julio, Gage and Perriman all questionable too.

Packers never use the doubtful designation I’ve noticed.

[NCF]

The Packers have listed receivers Christian Watson (hamstring) and Randall Cobb (illness), tight end Marcedes Lewis (groin) and tackle David Bakhtiari (knee) as questionable for Sunday's game against Tampa Bay.

Receiver Allen Lazard (ankle), defensive lineman Kenny Clark (groin), offensive lineman Elgton Jenkins (knee) and kicker Mason Crosby (illness) didn't receive game statuses and are expected to play. It'll mark Crosby's 244th consecutive game played.

Receiver Sammy Watkins (hamstring) has been ruled out after not practicing since Wednesday.

The Buccaneers ruled out receiver Chris Godwin (hamstring) and defensive tackle Akiem Hicks (foot), while left tackle Donovan Smith (elbow) and tight end Cade Otton (personal) are doubtful. Smith didn't practice Friday after returning to practice on Thursday.

Four Buccaneers have been listed as questionable: running back: Leonard Fournette (hamstring), and receivers Julio Jones (knee) receiver Breshad Perriman (knee), and Russell Gage (hamstring)

Tampa Bay didn't give a game status for the following players who are all expected to be available: quarterback Tom Brady (right finger), linebacker Lavante David (rest), cornerback Carlton Davis (hip), receiver Scotty Miller (calf), cornerback Zyon McCollum (hamstring) and center Robert Hainsey (knee).

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-bu ... pt-23-2022

Fournette questionable too, dear lord.

And then Godwin out and Julio, Gage and Perriman all questionable too.

Packers never use the doubtful designation I’ve noticed.

They did Week 1 on Lazard.

[Realist]

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-bu ... pt-23-2022

Fournette questionable too, dear lord.

And then Godwin out and Julio, Gage and Perriman all questionable too.

Packers never use the doubtful designation I’ve noticed.

They did Week 1 on Lazard.

weird to say the Packers never use the doubtful designation.

[Foosball]

O Romeo Romeo wherefore art thou Romeo…

Time to showcase Doubs.

8 catches 130 yards 2 TDs

[German_Panzer]

I would LOVE for Barry to come up with a plan that takes away the quick throws from Brady.

But would not that necessarily mean to open up for long throws? Because the only plan I know of taking away quick throws is blitzing. Are there any others?

I also think the weather will play a role. I remember us struggling in heat.

[Labrev]

If Watson and Cobb are also out, Rodgers might have no choice but to throw to “that guy who returns”. Hopefully he does!

Why would anyone hope for that? He looks like he's in slo-mo 24/7.

[Pckfn23]

I would LOVE for Barry to come up with a plan that takes away the quick throws from Brady.

But would not that necessarily mean to open up for long throws? Because the only plan I know of taking away quick throws is blitzing. Are there any others?

I also think the weather will play a role. I remember us struggling in heat.

Blitzing doesn't take away quick throws. In fact it may lead to the opposite. To take away quick throws you play press man or cover 2 in a lot of dime looks.

[German_Panzer]

Blitzing doesn't take away quick throws. In fact it may lead to the opposite.

So what is the goal of blitzing then? Isn‘t it to reach the QB asap to prevent him throwing (at all)?

[salmar80]

Blitzing doesn't take away quick throws. In fact it may lead to the opposite.

So what is the goal of blitzing then? Isn‘t it to reach the QB asap to prevent him throwing (at all)?

Yes, but blitzing works best on 3rd and long and other situations where the receivers are required to run routes that take some time to develop. Idea being pressuring the QB in a situation where a quick pass won't gain the required yards.

On a "normal down", where there's no requirement to gain a lot of yards, a QB like Brady can diagnose and alert to target a quick throw to a hot read receiver in the area vacated by the blitzer(s), or he can switch to a blitz-beating screen, etc. There are a lot of plays designed to beat the blitz. Brady can get rid of the ball in around 2 secs, well before even a free rusher can reach him. When diagnosed right, it's not hard to gain up to 5 yards vs the blitz, but there's likely no time for a 7-step go route.

Versus Brady, blitzing on early downs is madness. Instead, we can try trusting our 4 rushers, and also trust our CBs to play close to the WRs, and not give them a big cushion. IF our rushers get there fast, then Brady has to throw into tight coverage. The risk, of course, is that if pressure doesn't get there, even our CBs won't cover forever one-on-one. If we only play press man and lose all unpredictability, it's possible for TB to use pick plays to free up WRs.

[BF004]

Blitzing doesn't take away quick throws. In fact it may lead to the opposite.

So what is the goal of blitzing then? Isn‘t it to reach the QB asap to prevent him throwing (at all)?

Yes, but with less people in coverage, usually gunna be a quick dump off open early on, or will leave some one on one shots open deep.

Blitzing would help in situations, but as a main game plan, would frankly force Brady to get get rid of it quick.

I agree playing real tight, aggressive coverage, against these WR’s, and trusting your 3-4 man rush to get home in 3-4 seconds.

[Yoop]

Blitzing doesn't take away quick throws. In fact it may lead to the opposite.

So what is the goal of blitzing then? Isn‘t it to reach the QB asap to prevent him throwing (at all)?

Yes, but with less people in coverage, usually gunna be a quick dump off open early on, or will leave some one on one shots open deep.

Blitzing would help in situations, but as a main game plan, would frankly force Brady to get get rid of it quick.

I agree playing real tight, aggressive coverage, against these WR’s, and trusting your 3-4 man rush to get home in 3-4 seconds.

well disguised blitzes have proven very successful, a QB can't plan for something he doesn't recognize pre snap, same thing with line stunts, we've done pretty well at times opening a gap for Hawk and other lbers, Walker, Campbell, Gary should be very good at this stuff.

everyone has been touting Tampa's front 7, when ours is just as good, time for that group to step it up this week, sorry I disagree, giving Brady a 3 or 4 count is a recipe for disaster, we got to get home quicker then that, and we should be able to.

[salmar80]

So what is the goal of blitzing then? Isn‘t it to reach the QB asap to prevent him throwing (at all)?

Yes, but with less people in coverage, usually gunna be a quick dump off open early on, or will leave some one on one shots open deep.

Blitzing would help in situations, but as a main game plan, would frankly force Brady to get get rid of it quick.

I agree playing real tight, aggressive coverage, against these WR’s, and trusting your 3-4 man rush to get home in 3-4 seconds.

well disguised blitzes have proven very successful, a QB can't plan for something he doesn't recognize pre snap, same thing with line stunts, we've done pretty well at times opening a gap for Hawk and other lbers, Walker, Campbell, Gary should be very good at this stuff.

everyone has been touting Tampa's front 7, when ours is just as good, time for that group to step it up this week, sorry I disagree, giving Brady a 3 or 4 count is a recipe for disaster, we got to get home quicker then that, and we should be able to.

The problem is, Brady is The Master of recognizing blitzes, and getting rid of it quick.

I'm not against trying it now and again, but to achieve surprise, gotta do something else to set up for it until springing the trap.

If we don't get pressure without blitzing, were in real trouble in this game. And it'll be a big test for our ILB's cover skills.

[Yoop]

Yes, but with less people in coverage, usually gunna be a quick dump off open early on, or will leave some one on one shots open deep.

Blitzing would help in situations, but as a main game plan, would frankly force Brady to get get rid of it quick.

I agree playing real tight, aggressive coverage, against these WR’s, and trusting your 3-4 man rush to get home in 3-4 seconds.

well disguised blitzes have proven very successful, a QB can't plan for something he doesn't recognize pre snap, same thing with line stunts, we've done pretty well at times opening a gap for Hawk and other lbers, Walker, Campbell, Gary should be very good at this stuff.

everyone has been touting Tampa's front 7, when ours is just as good, time for that group to step it up this week, sorry I disagree, giving Brady a 3 or 4 count is a recipe for disaster, we got to get home quicker then that, and we should be able to.

The problem is, Brady is The Master of recognizing blitzes, and getting rid of it quick.

I'm not against trying it now and again, but to achieve surprise, gotta do something else to set up for it until springing the trap.

If we don't get pressure without blitzing, were in real trouble in this game. And it'll be a big test for our ILB's cover skills.

If we can't get pressure with a 4 man rush package then someone should be fired, we where 4th in the league last year doing that and we've added Reed and Wyatt to that package.

what I'am talking about is actually going after a big play with a stunt or Blitz, Brady is good at beating a blitz, but we drafted Walker to pair with Campbell to close down the short zones.

I hear all the reasons why Brady will succeed, quick twitch release, master at reading a defense, on paper we have the players to foil all of that, we just have to show up and do it.

[wallyuwl]

Where has Lowry been this year?

[Yoop]

Where has Lowry been this year?

my impression is Barry is giving preference to Reed for his pass rush skills which cuts into Lowery snap count a little, after Clark Lowery lead the DL in tackles against the Bears.

[packman114]

Watkins to IR. Guess he just can't learn how to keep his body healthy.

[Drj820]

Where has Lowry been this year?

better players on the DL in front of him now

[APB]

Where has Lowry been this year?

better players on the DL in front of him now

Ya'll just wouldn't listen...

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[Drj820]

Where has Lowry been this year?

better players on the DL in front of him now

Ya'll just wouldn't listen...

viewtopic.php?p=101731#p101731

I’ve said this same thing haha