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We are screwed. We are paying huge bucks for a below average QB. We have no offensive leadership. Going forward is going to be tough getting out from ARs contract.
Might be the biggest mistake the Packers have ever made.
3. Drafting Tony Mandarich
2. Trade for John Hadel
1. Reworking Rodgers QB and not trading him
There is a good chance AR will retire after this mess. I can understand why we extended him.
I can't think of another team who would trade away a back to back MVP. It is just a shame his play has fallen apart so fast.
We are screwed. We are paying huge bucks for a below average QB. We have no offensive leadership. Going forward is going to be tough getting out from ARs contract.
Might be the biggest mistake the Packers have ever made.
3. Drafting Tony Mandarich
2. Trade for John Hadel
1. Reworking Rodgers QB and not trading him
There is a good chance AR will retire after this mess. I can understand why we extended him.
I can't think of another team who would trade away a back to back MVP. It is just a shame his play has fallen apart so fast.
It hasn't.
It has been on the decline for 5 or 6 years. It's just easy to give him the benefit of the doubt because of his past successes.
There will still be those who will blame the WRs or the game plan or this or that. Anyone being honest will recognize just how poorly he has played. Half of his passes today were poorly thrown. AR of 2010? We would have won by 30 pts.
He knows it too. I think there is a chance he retires mid season and stops embarrassing himself.
just got back from the game. read some of the posts and figured rodgers would be the scapegoat. Just hope the fans here will realize the problem. Gute and Murph are the sole reason for this debacle. Period. But they arent going anywhere sadly.
We are screwed. We are paying huge bucks for a below average QB. We have no offensive leadership. Going forward is going to be tough getting out from ARs contract.
Might be the biggest mistake the Packers have ever made.
3. Drafting Tony Mandarich
2. Trade for John Hadel
1. Reworking Rodgers QB and not trading him
There is a good chance AR will retire after this mess. I can understand why we extended him.
I can't think of another team who would trade away a back to back MVP. It is just a shame his play has fallen apart so fast.
It hasn't.
It has been on the decline for 5 or 6 years. It's just easy to give him the benefit of the doubt because of his past successes.
There will still be those who will blame the WRs or the game plan or this or that. Anyone being honest will recognize just how poorly he has played. Half of his passes today were poorly thrown. AR of 2010? We would have won by 30 pts.
He knows it too. I think there is a chance he retires mid season and stops embarrassing himself.
This was a game that should’ve been won. But we’ve been saying that a lot lately. You just don’t see a game where there are 3 RZ intercepts. But there you go.
We SHOULD have racked 30 points today. We didn’t.
Personally, I’d rather see Watkins get criticized than Rodgers. Two big plays where he went the wrong way. Or was that Rodgers’ fault?
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There is a good chance AR will retire after this mess. I can understand why we extended him.
I can't think of another team who would trade away a back to back MVP. It is just a shame his play has fallen apart so fast.
It hasn't.
It has been on the decline for 5 or 6 years. It's just easy to give him the benefit of the doubt because of his past successes.
There will still be those who will blame the WRs or the game plan or this or that. Anyone being honest will recognize just how poorly he has played. Half of his passes today were poorly thrown. AR of 2010? We would have won by 30 pts.
He knows it too. I think there is a chance he retires mid season and stops embarrassing himself.
I am not holding my breath on that
I think Aaron is waiting for Bakh to get that knee healthy. 2 more years and he will be good to go. Patience.
This was a game that should’ve been won. But we’ve been saying that a lot lately. You just don’t see a game where there are 3 RZ intercepts. But there you go.
We SHOULD have racked 30 points today. We didn’t.
Personally, I’d rather see Watkins get criticized than Rodgers. Two big plays where he went the wrong way. Or was that Rodgers’ fault?
According to some here everything is Rodgers' fault. The QB gets too much credit when you win and too much blame when you don't.
The problem with Rodgers is that his confidence is totally gone. Not necessarily his confidence in himself, because mostly I think he blames everyone else before himself, but he has zero confidence that this team can win.
That's a big difference between him and Favre. If Favre didn't have a stellar cast of receivers, he would throw to anyone and everyone in full confidence (often misplaced!) that we could still win. Rodgers doesn't have that confidence; we can see it in his body language, and he has several times publicly said that his receivers aren't good enough.
I think it's time for drastic action. Bench him. We can't do any worse. We will at least get a proper look at Love. We might give the running game a proper go. But above all, we will at least have a chance that the team will go out there with an attitude of "if we do our best we might win " rather than "we aren't going to win ".
And if benching Rodgers persuades him that skipping all the pre-season practices and then complaining he has no chemistry with his receivers is not on, then so much the better.
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We are screwed. We are paying huge bucks for a below average QB. We have no offensive leadership. Going forward is going to be tough getting out from ARs contract.
Might be the biggest mistake the Packers have ever made.
3. Drafting Tony Mandarich
2. Trade for John Hadel
1. Reworking Rodgers QB and not trading him
There is a good chance AR will retire after this mess. I can understand why we extended him.
I can't think of another team who would trade away a back to back MVP. It is just a shame his play has fallen apart so fast.
The packers made the deal with the devil. He will be here again next year. And then we eat dead money either way.
This was a game that should’ve been won. But we’ve been saying that a lot lately. You just don’t see a game where there are 3 RZ intercepts. But there you go.
We SHOULD have racked 30 points today. We didn’t.
Personally, I’d rather see Watkins get criticized than Rodgers. Two big plays where he went the wrong way. Or was that Rodgers’ fault?
According to some here everything is Rodgers' fault. The QB gets too much credit when you win and too much blame when you don't.
It's the money. When you pay the QB top wages, you expect him (even with a less than stellar cast)to be good enough to score two touchdowns against Detroit. For performances like we had today and for the past few weeks, we could have got a rookie to do the same job with the same results.
The problem with Rodgers is that his confidence is totally gone. Not necessarily his confidence in himself, because mostly I think he blames everyone else before himself, but he has zero confidence that this team can win.
That's a big difference between him and Favre. If Favre didn't have a stellar cast of receivers, he would throw to anyone and everyone in full confidence (often misplaced!) that we could still win. Rodgers doesn't have that confidence; we can see it in his body language, and he has several times publicly said that his receivers aren't good enough.
I think it's time for drastic action. Bench him. We can't do any worse. We will at least get a proper look at Love. We might give the running game a proper go. But above all, we will at least have a chance that the team will go out there with an attitude of "if we do our best we might win " rather than "we aren't going to win ".
And if benching Rodgers persuades him that skipping all the pre-season practices and then complaining he has no chemistry with his receivers, so much the better.
He has zero confidence the team can win. Is he wrong? No QB can do it alone. It looks like Brady is gonna lose today too.
The problem with Rodgers is that his confidence is totally gone. Not necessarily his confidence in himself, because mostly I think he blames everyone else before himself, but he has zero confidence that this team can win.
That's a big difference between him and Favre. If Favre didn't have a stellar cast of receivers, he would throw to anyone and everyone in full confidence (often misplaced!) that we could still win. Rodgers doesn't have that confidence; we can see it in his body language, and he has several times publicly said that his receivers aren't good enough.
I think it's time for drastic action. Bench him. We can't do any worse. We will at least get a proper look at Love. We might give the running game a proper go. But above all, we will at least have a chance that the team will go out there with an attitude of "if we do our best we might win " rather than "we aren't going to win ".
And if benching Rodgers persuades him that skipping all the pre-season practices and then complaining he has no chemistry with his receivers, so much the better.
He has zero confidence the team can win. Is he wrong? No QB can do it alone. It looks like Brady is gonna lose today too.
Brady pulled another game out of his tail. Of course he has a better team around him than GB. Can you imagin being the Rams and being 3-5 a year after winning a SB?
This was a game that should’ve been won. But we’ve been saying that a lot lately. You just don’t see a game where there are 3 RZ intercepts. But there you go.
We SHOULD have racked 30 points today. We didn’t.
Personally, I’d rather see Watkins get criticized than Rodgers. Two big plays where he went the wrong way. Or was that Rodgers’ fault?
According to some here everything is Rodgers' fault.
No one believes this. Now, today's game, the blame train should stop firmly at his feet with Lafleur the next stop.
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The problem with Rodgers is that his confidence is totally gone. Not necessarily his confidence in himself, because mostly I think he blames everyone else before himself, but he has zero confidence that this team can win.
That's a big difference between him and Favre. If Favre didn't have a stellar cast of receivers, he would throw to anyone and everyone in full confidence (often misplaced!) that we could still win. Rodgers doesn't have that confidence; we can see it in his body language, and he has several times publicly said that his receivers aren't good enough.
I think it's time for drastic action. Bench him. We can't do any worse. We will at least get a proper look at Love. We might give the running game a proper go. But above all, we will at least have a chance that the team will go out there with an attitude of "if we do our best we might win " rather than "we aren't going to win ".
And if benching Rodgers persuades him that skipping all the pre-season practices and then complaining he has no chemistry with his receivers, so much the better.
He has zero confidence the team can win. Is he wrong? No QB can do it alone. It looks like Brady is gonna lose today too.
Brady pulled another game out of his tail. Of course he has a better team around him than GB. Can you imagin being the Rams and being 3-5 a year after winning a SB?
Watched the end. Brady made some great passes that were dropped and killed the 2 minute drive. They got the ball back and he made some more great throws and the WRs hung on and scored a TD on a 50+ yard drive.
Rodgers didn't make a great pass all day. Short throws. It doesn't matter who our WRs are. Rodgers can't get them the ball. Bahk was wide open in the end zone and the p ass would have been around his feet if it wasn't picked off. Another pass bounced off a defenders facemask. About 10 yards from the WR targeted. The pass to Tonyan that was picked was 5 yds short. And tonyan, more than anyone, should have chemistry with him.
Thought Wyatt and Enegbare played well today. Toure certainly seems intruiging. Kylin Hill definitely still has the ridiculous speed. Offensive line help up well in pass protection.
I'm kind of hoping to see what this team can do with Jordan Love at the helm at some point. #12 just ain't cutting it. Really wished we had made the trade last spring. This is just brutal to watch.
This was a game that should’ve been won. But we’ve been saying that a lot lately. You just don’t see a game where there are 3 RZ intercepts. But there you go.
We SHOULD have racked 30 points today. We didn’t.
Personally, I’d rather see Watkins get criticized than Rodgers. Two big plays where he went the wrong way. Or was that Rodgers’ fault?
According to some here everything is Rodgers' fault.
No one believes this. Now, today's game, the blame train should stop firmly at his feet with Lafleur the next stop.
No one? Then why are folks blaming only him and no one else? He wasn't wonderful by any stretch but he wasn't alone screwing up.
