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Defenseless player is when the player can't see the hit coming and can't prepare for it all. Defenseless player is a player putting his body on the line without knowledge of a safety missaling him (like Troy P did). That should be out of the game. It also rarely called though because it is such a rare thing for a WR not to be aware he is going to get plowed.Yoop wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 10:56so then it's a defenseless player hit that shouldn't have been called, we call it on WR's yet you value QB's less.go pak go wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 10:06I don't think the Anthony Barr hit should have been a penalty and I hate that the league calls even more bullsh*t calls to protect the QBs now than they ever have. I stated it was a good non call then and I definitely believe it now.
But. I will also say it is incredibly stupid and classless to have a team post a highlight of a defensive player "hit" and not "sack" a quarterback. Yes the result ended in an incompletion if I remember right, but we know the full reason they post it as his "greatest play" is because it injured a player for a full season.
Pretty low on the Vikings to show that. But I do hate that this is called now.
Rodgers knew the entire time Barr was coming. The hit and the throw were almost simultaneous. I get mad on nearly every roughing the passer call because the majority of them are now ridiculous.
NO, Barr had the ability to pull up, Rodgers had gotten rid of the ball before Barr even touched him, and Barr watched him get rid of it, it absolutely was a roughing the passer non call, and QB's almost always know the hit is coming, thats no excuse for a late hit, or a hit to the head, or knees.go pak go wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 11:04Defenseless player is when the player can't see the hit coming and can't prepare for it all. Defenseless player is a player putting his body on the line without knowledge of a safety missaling him (like Troy P did). That should be out of the game. It also rarely called though because it is such a rare thing for a WR not to be aware he is going to get plowed.Yoop wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 10:56so then it's a defenseless player hit that shouldn't have been called, we call it on WR's yet you value QB's less.go pak go wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 10:06I don't think the Anthony Barr hit should have been a penalty and I hate that the league calls even more bullsh*t calls to protect the QBs now than they ever have. I stated it was a good non call then and I definitely believe it now.
But. I will also say it is incredibly stupid and classless to have a team post a highlight of a defensive player "hit" and not "sack" a quarterback. Yes the result ended in an incompletion if I remember right, but we know the full reason they post it as his "greatest play" is because it injured a player for a full season.
Pretty low on the Vikings to show that. But I do hate that this is called now.
Rodgers knew the entire time Barr was coming. The hit and the throw were almost simultaneous. I get mad on nearly every roughing the passer call because the majority of them are now ridiculous.
Some are calling MN pretenders because when they won they squeaked by and when they lost they often got pummeled. The Vikes' D was their undoing, frankly. The Gmen are not an offensive juggernaut.Raptorman wrote: ↑15 Jan 2023 23:51Please, what makes a pretender? A team that losses in the playoffs? What are the qualifications for a team to be a pretender? I'm dying to hear this.
Raptor aside, most MN fans I run into, especially down here, are insufferable. They have an unhealthy hatred of everything about the Packers and this year they took their arrogance to another level so I shed no tears for them losing yesterday.go pak go wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 06:57I never make fun of Vikings fans. I more just say, "welcome to the club"
But to those who say it's always better to lose a week later my response is....really?
Because with the makeup of this team (a descending team) I am much happier that we lost in Week 18 to end our season than get absoltuely pounded like the Seahawks did one week later.
The finality of the NFL season and playoffs is absolutely brutal.
The giants won 8 of their 9 wins by one score. No one is calling them pretenders. They also got pummeled. Matter of fact, the Giants lose 4 games by one score. But I guess if you lose by one score instead of winning by one, you aren't a pretender.Pugger wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 12:04Some are calling MN pretenders because when they won they squeaked by and when they lost they often got pummeled. The Vikes' D was their undoing, frankly. The Gmen are not an offensive juggernaut.
But they are talking 36 playoff wins since 1936 whereas the Vikes are only 62 years old.
Us old gals don't either.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 10:51Correct. Us older guys never root for Minnesota, Chicago or Dallas. That's just how it is.Half Empty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 08:43You must be on the younger side, right? Us older guys, thinking back to the last century, will never be rooting for the 'Boys.
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I don't think anyone is calling the 9-7-1 Giants contenders...Raptorman wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 12:09The giants won 8 of their 9 wins by one score. No one is calling them pretenders. They also got pummeled. Matter of fact, the Giants lose 4 games by one score. But I guess if you lose by one score instead of winning by one, you aren't a pretender.
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The Gmen were not 13-4 and the #3 seed in the regular season this year. I fully expect NYG to lose to Philly next weekend.Raptorman wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 12:09The giants won 8 of their 9 wins by one score. No one is calling them pretenders. They also got pummeled. Matter of fact, the Giants lose 4 games by one score. But I guess if you lose by one score instead of winning by one, you aren't a pretender.
Pugger wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 12:22The Gmen were not 13-4 and the #3 seed in the regular season this year. I fully expect NYG to lose to Philly next weekend.
And I hope they win it all.
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The first NFL game I can remember watching was our 1994 playoff loss to Dallas when I was 9. Even though I like MM, there's no freakin' way I want to see Jerry Jones holding the Lombardi trophy again.Pugger wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 12:14Us old gals don't either.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 10:51Correct. Us older guys never root for Minnesota, Chicago or Dallas. That's just how it is.Half Empty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 08:43
You must be on the younger side, right? Us older guys, thinking back to the last century, will never be rooting for the 'Boys.
*That would be the divisional game in Jan. 1995
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Let's add SF to this list of teams not to root for. I'm still pissed that they didn't say Jerry Rice fumbled.Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 12:28The first NFL game I can remember watching was our 1994 playoff loss to Dallas when I was 9. Even though I like MM, there's no freakin' way I want to see Jerry Jones holding the Lombardi trophy again.Pugger wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 12:14Us old gals don't either.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 10:51
Correct. Us older guys never root for Minnesota, Chicago or Dallas. That's just how it is.
*That would be the divisional game in Jan. 1995
The NFC's remaining teams all have plenty of playoff history with the Packers
Cowboys - 90's dominated us. And they are the Cowboys
Eagles - 00's dominated us. 4th and long. A$$hole fans
Giants - stole two SB apperrances from us
49ers - We know their history.
Bucs - F*ck Tom Brady
So pick your poison in the NFC.
I'm rooting for McCarthy.
Add in the fact it was SEA and MN of all teams who got eliminated...this just wasn't our playoffs to root for anyone.
Cowboys - 90's dominated us. And they are the Cowboys
Eagles - 00's dominated us. 4th and long. A$$hole fans
Giants - stole two SB apperrances from us
49ers - We know their history.
Bucs - F*ck Tom Brady
So pick your poison in the NFC.
I'm rooting for McCarthy.
Add in the fact it was SEA and MN of all teams who got eliminated...this just wasn't our playoffs to root for anyone.
The first game I remember watching was the 1995 Super Bowl. So yes, the Cowboys' dominance was just before I was football-aware.Half Empty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 08:43You must be on the younger side, right? Us older guys, thinking back to the last century, will never be rooting for the 'Boys.
But I like Jerry Jones, Dak, and obviously McCarthy. And the 49ers and Giants have more recently been our Achilles heel than the Cowboys. I wouldn't mind the Eagles and Hurts winning one because Hurts continues to prove me wrong about his abilities at every level.
I'am rooting for our offense, those stinking Niners are using it right now, but hopefully we get it back next year
hard to root for any of these teams, I have a grudge list and there all on it, I just hope there all as a good a games as we saw this week end
hard to root for any of these teams, I have a grudge list and there all on it, I just hope there all as a good a games as we saw this week end
The first game I remember watching was Nov, 6th 1966. Vikings at Green Bay. One of 2 Green Bay losses on the year. The Packer's other loss that year? San Fran.texas wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 13:35The first game I remember watching was the 1995 Super Bowl. So yes, the Cowboys' dominance was just before I was football-aware.Half Empty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023 08:43You must be on the younger side, right? Us older guys, thinking back to the last century, will never be rooting for the 'Boys.
But I like Jerry Jones, Dak, and obviously McCarthy. And the 49ers and Giants have more recently been our Achilles heel than the Cowboys. I wouldn't mind the Eagles and Hurts winning one because Hurts continues to prove me wrong about his abilities at every level.