New York Jets and Trade Compensation
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I think momentum is pointing toward Rodgers playing somewhere else next year. Both sides seem open to it. Someone is going to pony up.
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My point is that no team will complete a trade without assurances from Rodgers that he will play more than one year. That basically gives him a de facto no trade clause. He can refuse to retire or agree to play multiple years with any other team (which keeps a trade from happening). This means the Packers must keep him or cut him and get no compensation. Rodgers does hold some control over this situation.Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 13:51The team acquiring him makes the picks contingent upon Rodgers playing in 2023 or beyond. If he refuses to play for them, then he doesn't get paid.williewasgreat wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 05:06NO team will trade anything worthwhile unless Rodgers agrees to play more than one year. If Rodgers won't agree to this, a trade will not happen. Therefore, your Rodgers must accept a trade or retire is simply not true.
It really is that simple. Once traded he's no longer a Packer. If he refuses to play and retires to spite GB, then so be it. The acquiring team gives up nothing and GB gets him and his contract off the books. Everyone wins except for Aaron Rodgers.
Have y'all never been in a cutthroat business deal?
Ghost wants to cut ties soooo bad he'll forfeit compensation and just give him the 19 mil. and force him to retire.williewasgreat wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 15:46My point is that no team will complete a trade without assurances from Rodgers that he will play more than one year. That basically gives him a de facto no trade clause. He can refuse to retire or agree to play multiple years with any other team (which keeps a trade from happening). This means the Packers must keep him or cut him and get no compensation. Rodgers does hold some control over this situation.Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 13:51The team acquiring him makes the picks contingent upon Rodgers playing in 2023 or beyond. If he refuses to play for them, then he doesn't get paid.williewasgreat wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 05:06NO team will trade anything worthwhile unless Rodgers agrees to play more than one year. If Rodgers won't agree to this, a trade will not happen. Therefore, your Rodgers must accept a trade or retire is simply not true.
It really is that simple. Once traded he's no longer a Packer. If he refuses to play and retires to spite GB, then so be it. The acquiring team gives up nothing and GB gets him and his contract off the books. Everyone wins except for Aaron Rodgers.
Have y'all never been in a cutthroat business deal?
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Yea the decision to resign him is an interesting one. I certainly wouldn’t want to give him a long term deal…but the idea that he “fell off a cliff” is wrong.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:24I don't agree either. But he is 29 years old and whether he has 1 good year left or 5, Father Time wins every game. I would give him a 3 year contract with performance clauses appropriate for his age.
Amos was never a flashy player, but probably one of the most “consistent” packer defenders we’ve had in a long long time
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fallen of the cliff I admit is a over blown comment, but he carried a 90 grade prior to last years low 70's, along with his age he's not a very good resign unless it's on a 1 year low money deal, which if I where him would be looking for that 3 year deal for better money, I'd rather draft his replacement.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:39Yea the decision to resign him is an interesting one. I certainly wouldn’t want to give him a long term deal…but the idea that he “fell off a cliff” is wrong.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:24I don't agree either. But he is 29 years old and whether he has 1 good year left or 5, Father Time wins every game. I would give him a 3 year contract with performance clauses appropriate for his age.
Amos was never a flashy player, but probably one of the most “consistent” packer defenders we’ve had in a long long time
I couldn’t care less about what grade some blog assigns himYoop wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:52fallen of the cliff I admit is a over blown comment, but he carried a 90 grade prior to last years low 70's, along with his age he's not a very good resign unless it's on a 1 year low money deal, which if I where him would be looking for that 3 year deal for better money, I'd rather draft his replacement.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:39Yea the decision to resign him is an interesting one. I certainly wouldn’t want to give him a long term deal…but the idea that he “fell off a cliff” is wrong.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:24
I don't agree either. But he is 29 years old and whether he has 1 good year left or 5, Father Time wins every game. I would give him a 3 year contract with performance clauses appropriate for his age.
Amos was never a flashy player, but probably one of the most “consistent” packer defenders we’ve had in a long long time
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Gut feel kind of guy? The kind where you can be right whether we keep him or don’t? I’m so sick of this grades mean nothing mentality. It doesn’t have to be the be all, end all and it shouldn’t be, but dismissing the hard work of people that have done a &%$@ ton more than you is super ignorant.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:00I couldn’t care less about what grade some blog assigns himYoop wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:52fallen of the cliff I admit is a over blown comment, but he carried a 90 grade prior to last years low 70's, along with his age he's not a very good resign unless it's on a 1 year low money deal, which if I where him would be looking for that 3 year deal for better money, I'd rather draft his replacement.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:39
Yea the decision to resign him is an interesting one. I certainly wouldn’t want to give him a long term deal…but the idea that he “fell off a cliff” is wrong.
Amos was never a flashy player, but probably one of the most “consistent” packer defenders we’ve had in a long long time
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Lol are you related to a player grader or something?NCF wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:28Gut feel kind of guy? The kind where you can be right whether we keep him or don’t? I’m so sick of this grades mean nothing mentality. It doesn’t have to be the be all, end all and it shouldn’t be, but dismissing the hard work of people that have done a &%$@ ton more than you is super ignorant.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:00I couldn’t care less about what grade some blog assigns himYoop wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:52
fallen of the cliff I admit is a over blown comment, but he carried a 90 grade prior to last years low 70's, along with his age he's not a very good resign unless it's on a 1 year low money deal, which if I where him would be looking for that 3 year deal for better money, I'd rather draft his replacement.
Did you read the thread at all where I said the discussion to resign is interesting?
I literally put forth no opinion on whether he should be brought back or not, I just said he, Lazard, and reed were the only guys we may lose who were major contributors, then I was told Amos actually “fell off a cliff” and I pushed back.
And also, sorry to offend that I don’t care about Herman or other bloggers grades. I know football enough to know Amos was not the defenses problem last year.
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Can’t stop laughing at the emotion I drew out of you just by innocently commenting that I don’t care about the bloggers grades. Funny stuff!NCF wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:28Gut feel kind of guy? The kind where you can be right whether we keep him or don’t? I’m so sick of this grades mean nothing mentality. It doesn’t have to be the be all, end all and it shouldn’t be, but dismissing the hard work of people that have done a &%$@ ton more than you is super ignorant.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:00I couldn’t care less about what grade some blog assigns himYoop wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 17:52
fallen of the cliff I admit is a over blown comment, but he carried a 90 grade prior to last years low 70's, along with his age he's not a very good resign unless it's on a 1 year low money deal, which if I where him would be looking for that 3 year deal for better money, I'd rather draft his replacement.
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Not as funny as the mindless drivel you unleash day after day and your passive aggressive asides you have for anyone that doesn’t see the world as you do.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:44Can’t stop laughing at the emotion I drew out of you just by innocently commenting that I don’t care about the bloggers grades. Funny stuff!NCF wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:28Gut feel kind of guy? The kind where you can be right whether we keep him or don’t? I’m so sick of this grades mean nothing mentality. It doesn’t have to be the be all, end all and it shouldn’t be, but dismissing the hard work of people that have done a &%$@ ton more than you is super ignorant.
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You are painting me as the bad guy after you lashed out at me for not caring about how bloggers grade players?NCF wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 19:20Not as funny as the mindless drivel you unleash day after day and your passive aggressive asides you have for anyone that doesn’t see the world as you do.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:44Can’t stop laughing at the emotion I drew out of you just by innocently commenting that I don’t care about the bloggers grades. Funny stuff!NCF wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 18:28
Gut feel kind of guy? The kind where you can be right whether we keep him or don’t? I’m so sick of this grades mean nothing mentality. It doesn’t have to be the be all, end all and it shouldn’t be, but dismissing the hard work of people that have done a &%$@ ton more than you is super ignorant.
Literally all I did was push back on the idea that Amos fell off a cliff, and said his grade from bloggers wouldn’t sway my opinion. You then cursed and called me ignorant
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I think the bloggers can generate conversation but i agree with the Dr.
I would rather read the opinion of a huddle member and the support of that opinion based on actual game tape, then an argument that tweeter bla bla said this or that.
It is hard to base arguments for football on stats because they are all so qualitative.
I would rather read the opinion of a huddle member and the support of that opinion based on actual game tape, then an argument that tweeter bla bla said this or that.
It is hard to base arguments for football on stats because they are all so qualitative.
Almost as if years of personal experiences have formed my opinion of you more than the singular post you are now trying to slither out of.
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I agree with your take and I said as much. Just don’t think we should wholly disregard their opinions and conclusions, either.bud fox wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 19:38I think the bloggers can generate conversation but i agree with the Dr.
I would rather read the opinion of a huddle member and the support of that opinion based on actual game tape, then an argument that tweeter bla bla said this or that.
It is hard to base arguments for football on stats because they are all so qualitative.
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Again dude, you lashed out at me and are now saying I am slithering out of something.
Read above. I said the discussion to resign Amos is an interesting one. I didn’t offer an opinion either way. I simply said I don’t care about blogger grades, I don’t think Amos fell off a cliff last year.
And I’m the bad guy? Makes no sense man.
Just admit you misread the thread/situation and move on.
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No. And you are the bad guy.Drj820 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023 19:43Again dude, you lashed out at me and are now saying I am slithering out of something.
Read above. I said the discussion to resign Amos is an interesting one. I didn’t offer an opinion either way. I simply said I don’t care about blogger grades, I don’t think Amos fell off a cliff last year.
And I’m the bad guy? Makes no sense man.
Just admit you misread the thread/situation and move on.
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Found Andy Herman’s burner.
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How often do you lose getting the last word? Your response was so predictable I practically wrote if for you before you even posted it. Nighty night.
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