NFLPA Report Card

From Lambeau to Lombardi, Holmgren, McCarthy and LaFleur and from Starr to Favre, Rodgers and now Jordan Love we’re talking Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers football. This Packers Forum is the place to talk NFL football and everything Packers. So, pull up a keyboard, make yourself at home and let’s talk some Packers football.

Moderators: NCF, salmar80, BF004, APB, Packfntk

Post Reply
User avatar
BF004
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13862
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:05
Location: Suamico
Contact:

NFLPA Report Card

Post by BF004 »

Anyone look at this yet? Keep seeing it mentioned here and there.

https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards

Packers near the tops in all categories, great to see. Could be a nice argumentative piece when negotiating with players about staying or coming here.


Image
Image

Image

YoHoChecko
Reactions:
Posts: 9712
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 11:34

Post by YoHoChecko »

Yeah this has been fascinating to see the news reports.

The Ravens training room stuff combined with the GM-Bateman spatte has been really interesting.

Vikings crushed this survey, interestingly

User avatar
Pckfn23
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 14467
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 22:13
Location: Western Wisconsin

Post by Pckfn23 »

YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:03
Vikings crushed this survey, interestingly
This made me wonder if a "players" coach would lead to higher scores, but not necessarily better football.
Image
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

YoHoChecko
Reactions:
Posts: 9712
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 11:34

Post by YoHoChecko »

Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:10
YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:03
Vikings crushed this survey, interestingly
This made me wonder if a "players" coach would lead to higher scores, but not necessarily better football.
It’s interesting.

A lot is about the facilities themselves not the staff, so that doesn’t. I think the training room stuff isn’t about being a player’s coach either. Stuff like nutrition staff doesn’t seem like it would be stronger for a playersz’ coach (usually more permissive) than a disciplinarian

So in short, I don’t think that theory translates overall, but for a few categories it might

YoHoChecko
Reactions:
Posts: 9712
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 11:34

Post by YoHoChecko »

The Cardinals facilities got thrashed

User avatar
Pckfn23
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 14467
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 22:13
Location: Western Wisconsin

Post by Pckfn23 »

YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:12
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:10
YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:03
Vikings crushed this survey, interestingly
This made me wonder if a "players" coach would lead to higher scores, but not necessarily better football.
It’s interesting.

A lot is about the facilities themselves not the staff, so that doesn’t. I think the training room stuff isn’t about being a player’s coach either. Stuff like nutrition staff doesn’t seem like it would be stronger for a playersz’ coach (usually more permissive) than a disciplinarian

So in short, I don’t think that theory translates overall, but for a few categories it might
I thought of that, but wouldn't a players' coach advocate on behalf of their players to the training staff?

The facilities, definitely nothing to do with the coach and honestly have no idea of the weighted elements to the survey.
Image
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

YoHoChecko
Reactions:
Posts: 9712
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 11:34

Post by YoHoChecko »

Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:16
I thought of that, but wouldn't a players' coach advocate on behalf of their players to the training staff?
Yeah, I mean it definitely sounds like the issues for the Ravens with the training and coach do extend upwards to coaching staff and front office, so there's definitely something to that.

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:24
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:16
I thought of that, but wouldn't a players' coach advocate on behalf of their players to the training staff?
Yeah, I mean it definitely sounds like the issues for the Ravens with the training and coach do extend upwards to coaching staff and front office, so there's definitely something to that.
I think it's a variable. I heard a "work life balance" was a thing that people answered and they found more hours didn't correlate to more wins. So my guess is that goes into "treatment of families" a lot in the column.

But it is primarly facilities based and nutrition based.

I was surprised to see the Packers were as high as they were. I felt like we heard reports in the late MM days that the Packers facilities were outdated and the training staff were old fashioned. Even things like the only beverage available in the cafe was soda. So it's good to see some improvement there.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
Yoop
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 12341
Joined: 24 Mar 2020 09:23

Post by Yoop »

go pak go wrote:
03 Mar 2023 11:00
YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:24
Pckfn23 wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:16
I thought of that, but wouldn't a players' coach advocate on behalf of their players to the training staff?
Yeah, I mean it definitely sounds like the issues for the Ravens with the training and coach do extend upwards to coaching staff and front office, so there's definitely something to that.
I think it's a variable. I heard a "work life balance" was a thing that people answered and they found more hours didn't correlate to more wins. So my guess is that goes into "treatment of families" a lot in the column.

But it is primarly facilities based and nutrition based.

I was surprised to see the Packers were as high as they were. I felt like we heard reports in the late MM days that the Packers facilities were outdated and the training staff were old fashioned. Even things like the only beverage available in the cafe was soda. So it's good to see some improvement there.
not sure where or from who you got that information GPG, but I've been on several full faciality tours prior to 2010 with the now retired Karen Bengston, including locker and training room, and it looked state of the art to me, can't speak to refreshments in the cafe, but I'd think bottled water was available.

I new without even looking that the Packers would grade high in this comparison.

Acrobat
Reactions:
Posts: 1831
Joined: 28 Apr 2020 10:16

Post by Acrobat »

Congrats to the Vikings for finally winning a trophy!

User avatar
Raptorman
Reactions:
Posts: 3576
Joined: 23 Mar 2020 19:39
Location: East coast of Florida

Post by Raptorman »

Acrobat wrote:
03 Mar 2023 11:23
Congrats to the Vikings for finally winning a trophy!
Vikings did win a trophy, only the Packers never gave it up. :)

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

Yoop wrote:
03 Mar 2023 11:18
go pak go wrote:
03 Mar 2023 11:00
YoHoChecko wrote:
03 Mar 2023 10:24


Yeah, I mean it definitely sounds like the issues for the Ravens with the training and coach do extend upwards to coaching staff and front office, so there's definitely something to that.
I think it's a variable. I heard a "work life balance" was a thing that people answered and they found more hours didn't correlate to more wins. So my guess is that goes into "treatment of families" a lot in the column.

But it is primarly facilities based and nutrition based.

I was surprised to see the Packers were as high as they were. I felt like we heard reports in the late MM days that the Packers facilities were outdated and the training staff were old fashioned. Even things like the only beverage available in the cafe was soda. So it's good to see some improvement there.
not sure where or from who you got that information GPG, but I've been on several full faciality tours prior to 2010 with the now retired Karen Bengston, including locker and training room, and it looked state of the art to me, can't speak to refreshments in the cafe, but I'd think bottled water was available.

I new without even looking that the Packers would grade high in this comparison.
Well they graded well in lots of areas except the facilities are still not "state of the art" in NFL terms. Above average. But not state of the art.
image.png
image.png (110.88 KiB) Viewed 504 times
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
BF004
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13862
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:05
Location: Suamico
Contact:

Post by BF004 »

Interesting Packers are 5th for weight with an A.

Then also 5th for treatment of families with a B+.

Seems like an area all teams can probably work on to help schmooze the players.
Image

Image

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

BF004 wrote:
03 Mar 2023 12:20
Interesting Packers are 5th for weight with an A.

Then also 5th for treatment of families with a B+.

Seems like an area all teams can probably work on to help schmooze the players.
Also that Training Staff and Strength Coaches are 10th and 15th with an "A".

Which means everyone graded their people well.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
Crazylegs Starks
Reactions:
Posts: 3718
Joined: 24 Mar 2020 21:50
Location: Northern WI

Post by Crazylegs Starks »

If anyone is curious about the "why" of the Packers' grades:

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/how-did-t ... t-card-307
Treatment of Families (B+, tied for 5th out of 32 teams)
The Packers do not offer daycare, one of 11 teams that do not offer that service, but they do offer a family room.
The post-game gathering area ranked 11th.

Food Service / Nutrition (A, tied for 1st)
Quality of food was tied for 2nd. The team provides breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Weight Room (A, tied for 5th)
According to the players, the facility features a top-of-the-line weight room, and 96% of the players believe they have enough strength coaches.

Strength Coaches (A, tied for 10th)
The strength staff provides the players with an individual strength plan, according to 98% of the players, which tied for 7th.

Training Room (B-, tied for 12th)
The team’s worst grade.
Only 82% of the players felt they have enough certified athletic trainers and, worse than that, only 73% feel they have enough physical therapists, both of which ranked 23rd in the NFL.

Training Staff (A-, tied for 15th)
It was the team’s worst ranking among all categories, despite an A- grade “because most teams rated their training staff positively.”

Locker Room (B, tied for 14th)
The responses received indicated that individual lockers do not have padded seats.
The locker room as a whole needs to be renovated because, according to the players, it is “starting to feel old.”

Team Travel (A, tied for 4th)
There are no roommates on the road and the team plane includes “a lot of first-class seats.”
“We didn’t lose the game; we just ran out of time.”
- Vince Lombardi

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

Crazy that the Packers locker room is approaching 20 years old. :shock:
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
APB
Reactions:
Posts: 8212
Joined: 20 Mar 2020 06:53
Location: Virginia

Post by APB »

Locker Room (B, tied for 14th)
The responses received indicated that individual lockers do not have padded seats.
The locker room as a whole needs to be renovated because, according to the players, it is “starting to feel old.”
Boo f'ing hoo...

User avatar
Captain_Ben
Reactions:
Posts: 1386
Joined: 24 Mar 2020 16:27
Location: California

Post by Captain_Ben »

APB wrote:
04 Mar 2023 18:18
Locker Room (B, tied for 14th)
The responses received indicated that individual lockers do not have padded seats.
The locker room as a whole needs to be renovated because, according to the players, it is “starting to feel old.”
Boo f'ing hoo...
Probably needed those pads from all the ass beatings they took last season. Pansies.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

User avatar
RingoCStarrQB
Reactions:
Posts: 4172
Joined: 24 Mar 2020 19:56

Post by RingoCStarrQB »

go pak go wrote:
03 Mar 2023 12:49
Crazy that the Packers locker room is approaching 20 years old. :shock:
It's already been 10 years since the upper deck southendzone seats were added.

Post Reply