If this hadn't been explained to you multiple times over multiple years, I'd actually take the time to gather all the evidence of WR's open underneath, but by the time I come back with that evidence, your argument will probably change anyway, so I really don't want to waste my time on it.Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 11:56what open receivers underneath, is this some sort of joke, if Lazard wasn't tripping over his own feet he might have gotten open, of course Rodgers isn't going to throw him the ball when he's all sprawled out on the grass, and Cobb was blanketed, Doubs kept dropping the ball, and Watson was hurt off and on, football 101, if ya can't pass short do to coverage, then ya pass deep to spread out the coverage, my 10 year old great grandson is well aware of how this stuff works, whats your excuse
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It absolutely is when you say, "whether it is his fault or not, I'll defend him."
There is not a person on the forum that believes it is ONLY the QBs fault. You will say, BS. I will say bring proof. You will say you don't have time and tuck tail and run.or is it understanding that the QB isn't the only person at fault when we lose games,
No no, you mistake reality. You are opposite because you don't need reality to form an opinion. You form an opinion and then set it in stone regardless of the evidence. And again you claim me and others defend the coaches and GM, when that is infact a lie and we do point out their faults. You won't find proof, because you can not. Out of your own mouth, you have said you will defend the QB whether it is his fault or not.I'am the complete opposite of someone like you, you defend what is actually at fault and blame someone else to cover your as s and defend the coaches or GM, and thats who you are, you've been doing it ever since this forum started, and NO I'am not going to go find your post to prove it to you.
Here, will give you some GM coach criticism:
Gutekunst failed the 2020 draft.
Gutekunst did not have a good plan or stick to his plan for Rodgers.
Gutekunst did not handle the WR situation well.
LaFleur let Rodgers dictate his scheme.
LaFleur made mistakes in starting LT for the playoff games.
LaFleur should have fired Drayton midseason.
LaFleur should have gotten rid of Barry this off-season.
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+ Gutekunst lets Dave the janitor select our 3rd round picksPckfn23 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:32...
Here, will give you some GM coach criticism:
Gutekunst failed the 2020 draft.
Gutekunst did not have a good plan or stick to his plan for Rodgers.
Gutekunst did not handle the WR situation well.
LaFleur let Rodgers dictate his scheme.
LaFleur made mistakes in starting LT for the playoff games.
LaFleur should have fired Drayton midseason.
LaFleur should have gotten rid of Barry this off-season.
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Ah, memories of your SpongeBob Fantasy Rainbow avatar still haunting you??Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:01Forum credit bet? there is no forum credit betting here
It's sig bet or hitch hike home, no one rides for free, forum credit, thats a good one.
I praise Rodgers for extending plays in hopes of completing deeper passes, and so have you, except when it doesn't work, I have said he should have taken the check downs, often I don't though because a half doz other members have already said it, and often the check downs are covered, that the price you pay at times.Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:23If this hadn't been explained to you multiple times over multiple years, I'd actually take the time to gather all the evidence of WR's open underneath, but by the time I come back with that evidence, your argument will probably change anyway, so I really don't want to waste my time on it.Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 11:56what open receivers underneath, is this some sort of joke, if Lazard wasn't tripping over his own feet he might have gotten open, of course Rodgers isn't going to throw him the ball when he's all sprawled out on the grass, and Cobb was blanketed, Doubs kept dropping the ball, and Watson was hurt off and on, football 101, if ya can't pass short do to coverage, then ya pass deep to spread out the coverage, my 10 year old great grandson is well aware of how this stuff works, whats your excuse
last year was a different situation, the OL was not providing the blocking to extend plays, or even enough to wait for someone to get open underneath, we can sit here and nickle and dime this discussion, but the deep passing you saw last season was designed to force the defense to spread out more so that the short routes would open up.
and just for the record I don't come on this forum to convince anyone of anything, so if you don't agree with this simple explanation, then don't.
theres a first time for everything, glad you finally got therePckfn23 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:32Here, will give you some GM coach criticism:
Gutekunst failed the 2020 draft.
Gutekunst did not have a good plan or stick to his plan for Rodgers.
Gutekunst did not handle the WR situation well.
LaFleur let Rodgers dictate his scheme.
LaFleur made mistakes in starting LT for the playoff games.
LaFleur should have fired Drayton midseason.
LaFleur should have gotten rid of Barry this off-season.
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more proof erin lolgers does not care about winning. He wants to get paid 60m to spend time with his unopen buddies
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Screw all of that evidence of open receivers undereath. What's even funnier is yoop will defend Rodgers till he's blue in the face over generalized statements of Lazard is tripping over his feet on deep routes and Cobb is blanketed everywhere and that Rodgers has been demanding better and different receivers for years and didn't get them....Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:23If this hadn't been explained to you multiple times over multiple years, I'd actually take the time to gather all the evidence of WR's open underneath, but by the time I come back with that evidence, your argument will probably change anyway, so I really don't want to waste my time on it.Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 11:56what open receivers underneath, is this some sort of joke, if Lazard wasn't tripping over his own feet he might have gotten open, of course Rodgers isn't going to throw him the ball when he's all sprawled out on the grass, and Cobb was blanketed, Doubs kept dropping the ball, and Watson was hurt off and on, football 101, if ya can't pass short do to coverage, then ya pass deep to spread out the coverage, my 10 year old great grandson is well aware of how this stuff works, whats your excuse
and the thing that is holding up Rodgers being a Jet is he is demanding these same receivers to be overpaid by the Jets. So not even Rodgers agrees with yoop. He wants to make Allen Lazard a rich man.
Wait a sec. Your argument a couple hours ago was that Rodgers was not throwing to open WR's underneath because this was part of MLF's scheme, then you said "what open WR's?", and now you're acknowledging that there were open WR's but you just didn't speak up because other people did?Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:48I praise Rodgers for extending plays in hopes of completing deeper passes, and so have you, except when it doesn't work, I have said he should have taken the check downs, often I don't though because a half doz other members have already said it, and often the check downs are covered, that the price you pay at times.Acrobat wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 12:23If this hadn't been explained to you multiple times over multiple years, I'd actually take the time to gather all the evidence of WR's open underneath, but by the time I come back with that evidence, your argument will probably change anyway, so I really don't want to waste my time on it.Yoop wrote: ↑14 Mar 2023 11:56
what open receivers underneath, is this some sort of joke, if Lazard wasn't tripping over his own feet he might have gotten open, of course Rodgers isn't going to throw him the ball when he's all sprawled out on the grass, and Cobb was blanketed, Doubs kept dropping the ball, and Watson was hurt off and on, football 101, if ya can't pass short do to coverage, then ya pass deep to spread out the coverage, my 10 year old great grandson is well aware of how this stuff works, whats your excuse
last year was a different situation, the OL was not providing the blocking to extend plays, or even enough to wait for someone to get open underneath, we can sit here and nickle and dime this discussion, but the deep passing you saw last season was designed to force the defense to spread out more so that the short routes would open up.
and just for the record I don't come on this forum to convince anyone of anything, so if you don't agree with this simple explanation, then don't.