2023 NFL Draft Discussion

[YoHoChecko]

Whew

[BF004]

Fair question and probably Kelce (he’s just that good). But I’m definitely out.

I could possibly stomach it if we trade back to the 20’s and get another 2nd, but yeah. Not a huge Kincaid fan, Meyer a solid to good prospect, by no means generational.

[YoHoChecko]

Fair question and probably Kelce (he’s just that good). But I’m definitely out.

I could possibly stomach it if we trade back to the 20’s and get another 2nd, but yeah. Not a huge Kincaid fan, Meyer a solid a good prospect, by no means generational.

Yeah I’m way down on first round TEs. Outstanding class. Would love to get a couple. Anything before 24ish feels too rich. Mayer is the safest, not the best.

[BF004]

Whew

Whew indeed.

My very way to early big board holding up well. Was very high on Murphy and Wilson early in.

If a 1 and a 3 could get us to 10. I’d do it for JSN, Wilson, Johnson, Murphy, in that order.

[BF004]

Fair question and probably Kelce (he’s just that good). But I’m definitely out.

I could possibly stomach it if we trade back to the 20’s and get another 2nd, but yeah. Not a huge Kincaid fan, Meyer a solid a good prospect, by no means generational.

Yeah I’m way down on first round TEs. Outstanding class. Would love to get a couple. Anything before 24ish feels too rich. Mayer is the safest, not the best.

Yeah. Just turn that 15 into a 38-43 and a 60-80 and take one in each range. And then you’d still have draft capital left over. Just can’t get behind it at 15.

[YoHoChecko]

Whew indeed.

My very way to early big board holding up well. Was very high on Murphy and Wilson early in.

If a 1 and a 3 could get us to 10. I’d do it for JSN, Wilson, Johnson, Murphy, in that order.

I like Murphy better than Wilson.

[BSA]

Heard that 4 QB's have ever gone in the top 10 before.

Seems all but a lock this year. Maybe as high as 4 in the top 7.

Some real wild cards this year at QB

However, check out 2018...looks like 4 in top 10 ?

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

[BF004]

Heard that 4 QB's have ever gone in the top 10 before.

Seems all but a lock this year. Maybe as high as 4 in the top 7.

Some real wild cards this year at QB

However, check out 2018...looks like 4 in top 10 ?

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

Well then, DTA. Trust by verify.

[Yoop]

OMG these positional droughts keep getting deeper and deeper, if one of these positions have a BPA at slot 15 we need to grasshopper that pick to the podium pronto (kidding, sorta) Njikba could be a good friend for Love

Longest drought without 1st-round RB, WR or TE (since 1967)

[Yoop]

Heard that 4 QB's have ever gone in the top 10 before.

Seems all but a lock this year. Maybe as high as 4 in the top 7.

Some real wild cards this year at QB

However, check out 2018...looks like 4 in top 10 ?

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

looks like 5 top 5 to me in 2018 just from your clip anyway, Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, and Lamar Jackson.

I think there are a couple other classes with 4, but 3 I'd bet is the average.

[BF004]

Heard that 4 QB's have ever gone in the top 10 before.

Seems all but a lock this year. Maybe as high as 4 in the top 7.

Some real wild cards this year at QB

However, check out 2018...looks like 4 in top 10 ?

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

looks like 5 top 5 to me in 2018 just from your clip anyway, Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, and Lamar Jackson.

I think there are a couple other classes with 4, but 3 I'd bet is the average.

That 1, 2, 3, 4,5 is draft order, the picks were 1, 3, 7, 10, 32

[BSA]

I was thinking about which position GB will target in round 1 and you can make a compelling case for several
But one position would be a strategic pick as much as a needs pick- and that's EDGE

GB is deep in talks with Rashan Gary and his reps and depending on how close they are $$ the Packers might need some...leverage.
In that case, drafting an EDGE high makes some sense- it insures against those contract talks going south. From all reports, Packers want Gary and Gary wants to be a Packer - so I'm not sounding any alarms- just talking about another consideration for pick allocation

[YoHoChecko]

Yeah EDGE is devoutly a premium position with lots of good draft options this year.

I hadn’t thought about it as insurance against losing Gary because we have to keep Gary, right? We have to!

But yeah it may help negotiations feel less desperate.

Murphy or Smith would be tough to pass up for me. LVN I could come around on.

I also think Ojulari in round two would be a stellar addition to our group, bringing more of a pure pass rush specialist with some refinement ready to go from day one.

Round one I’m pretty locked into JSN, Edge, or OT. With an outside consideration for a DT again if there’s a got they love. Would prefer a trade back if it’s not JSN, Smith, or Murphy. Which means I’m likely to be disappointed

[Yoop]

Some real wild cards this year at QB

However, check out 2018...looks like 4 in top 10 ?

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

looks like 5 top 5 to me in 2018 just from your clip anyway, Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, and Lamar Jackson.

I think there are a couple other classes with 4, but 3 I'd bet is the average.

That 1, 2, 3, 4,5 is draft order, the picks were 1, 3, 7, 10, 32

thanks I see that now, thought Jackson went a lot higher for some reason.

[BF004]

Ouch, one RT out of the whole lot.

[YoHoChecko]

Another possible CB ==> S conversion prospect, this guy allegedly had some spotty coverage but is a strong tackler, big, and fast.

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Plus a cool name. And played for Georgia on both defense and ST when they won it all in 2021 (grad transfer to Mich St)

[YoHoChecko]

Just heard on a PFF podcast that when you take the average of top 5 individual GPS speeds of the receivers, Jonathan Mingo is 0.5 mph faster than Jalen Hyatt; faster than Addison, Johnston, and Flowers.

At 220-225 pounds.

[lupedafiasco]

Whew

That’s been my guy but I think the Falcons take him. He just turned 21 too. Not even a man yet.

[BSA]

From the 33rd Team

Bills Parcells writes about their 2 pronged grading system for the draft, both a number and a letter

https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/nf ... -mistakes/

" Bucko Kilroy, my first mentor in pro football as far as personnel evaluation and a strong advocate of building a roster with prototypical players is concerned, said plenty when he told me many years ago when I coached linebackers for the New England Patriots:

“Young man, you need to find out who’s doing these jobs.”

Bucko wasn’t only talking about making sure you had a team of prototypes rather than a team of exceptions, but also the critical factors involved with each position"

[YoHoChecko]

From the 33rd Team

Bills Parcells writes about their 2 pronged grading system for the draft, both a number and a letter

https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/nf ... -mistakes/

" Bucko Kilroy, my first mentor in pro football as far as personnel evaluation and a strong advocate of building a roster with prototypical players is concerned, said plenty when he told me many years ago when I coached linebackers for the New England Patriots:

“Young man, you need to find out who’s doing these jobs.”

Bucko wasn’t only talking about making sure you had a team of prototypes rather than a team of exceptions, but also the critical factors involved with each position"

Great bit of context in this year especially. This draft is just swimming in low percentage size exceptions. Ron Wolf said similar things about avoiding becoming a team of exceptions.

I think in a reloading/transition year, it’s doubly important. Build up the roster with prototypes when you have a breadth of needs and only consider exceptions when you’re looking for more narrow and specific roles.

I’m adhering to prototypes this year wherever I can.