looking at every TE disguises our true interest of which one we want, I'am not sure how much I believe thats even possible, more then anything I think it narrows the field and adds assurance that your making a good choice.
I look at the stuff Lafleur likes to do, motion, mis direction, with a healthy appetite for play action coupled with a penchent to run the ball and TE, specially inline TE seems like a necessity.
with that in mind Washington seems like a perfect fit, as a blocker he would seem like a perfect replacement for Mercedes Lewis with better receiving ability do to Lewis age.
Meyer offers the best of both receiver and Blocker, and if we want him we'll have to use slot 15 to get him, he could go even higher, same with KIncaid, there will be teams that wont care about his blocking ability, as a big receiver he will dominate, imo you can build a pass tree around Dalton Kincaid.
good TE talent in this class, we should be able to improve that position through out this draft class
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Agreed. I like Washington and Laporta as second rounders better than Kincaid or Mayer in the first.
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Another late round WR visit:
Ryan Miller, Furman
Short arms, terrible vertical, great 3-cone. Decent 40, but rough 10-yard.
Was listed in college at 220 and some consideration as an H-back; interesting to see how the league sees him. Could be in the CJ Johnson mold as a late-round alternative to a Mingo/Treylon Burkes type.
Ryan Miller, Furman
Short arms, terrible vertical, great 3-cone. Decent 40, but rough 10-yard.
Was listed in college at 220 and some consideration as an H-back; interesting to see how the league sees him. Could be in the CJ Johnson mold as a late-round alternative to a Mingo/Treylon Burkes type.
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That's an interesting visit - a 330lb DT. Jerod Clark
The Packers are pretty well stocked for that role - with Kenny Clark, TJ Slaton and Jonathan Ford = 3 deep at 1-Tech
According to the Brugler draft guide he's a 7th rounder and GB has 4 of those to invest. I guess 2 Clarks are better than one
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A three-year starter at Coastal Carolina, Clark lined up as the nose tackle in former defensive coordinator Chad Staggs’ multiple scheme. A high school tight end, he transformed his body, changed positions and overcame multiple injuries to become a legitimate nose tackle prospect on NFL scouts’ radars. Clark plays well on his feet to eat up space and uses his length to push the pocket. Stronger than he is explosive, his below-average leverage and hand usage will keep him glued to NFL blockers. Clark relies more on his raw strength than technical skill to win trench battles, but his package of size, length and foot quickness is worthy project for an NFL defensive line coach.
He has the tools to become a rotational NFL nose tackle. Projection : 7th round
The Packers are pretty well stocked for that role - with Kenny Clark, TJ Slaton and Jonathan Ford = 3 deep at 1-Tech
According to the Brugler draft guide he's a 7th rounder and GB has 4 of those to invest. I guess 2 Clarks are better than one
SUMMARY:
A three-year starter at Coastal Carolina, Clark lined up as the nose tackle in former defensive coordinator Chad Staggs’ multiple scheme. A high school tight end, he transformed his body, changed positions and overcame multiple injuries to become a legitimate nose tackle prospect on NFL scouts’ radars. Clark plays well on his feet to eat up space and uses his length to push the pocket. Stronger than he is explosive, his below-average leverage and hand usage will keep him glued to NFL blockers. Clark relies more on his raw strength than technical skill to win trench battles, but his package of size, length and foot quickness is worthy project for an NFL defensive line coach.
He has the tools to become a rotational NFL nose tackle. Projection : 7th round
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Another 7th rounder or priority UDFA pick- this time at OT
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/0 ... aft-visit/
At his pro day, Kadeem Telfort measured 6-7 and 322 pounds, with 36″ arms and a 86″ wingspan. He ran the 40-yard dash in 5.45 seconds, hit 24.5″ in the vertical leap, covered 8-0 in the broad jump, finished the short shuttle in 5.10 seconds and the three-cone in 8.70 seconds and completed 19 reps in the benchpress. His Relative Athletic Score is 1.59 out of 10.0
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/0 ... aft-visit/
At his pro day, Kadeem Telfort measured 6-7 and 322 pounds, with 36″ arms and a 86″ wingspan. He ran the 40-yard dash in 5.45 seconds, hit 24.5″ in the vertical leap, covered 8-0 in the broad jump, finished the short shuttle in 5.10 seconds and the three-cone in 8.70 seconds and completed 19 reps in the benchpress. His Relative Athletic Score is 1.59 out of 10.0
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They are listed by position with their pro day or combine measurements and test results:
Tight end Dalton Kincaid, Utah
Measurements: 6-3½, 246 pounds, 32½-inch arms, 10¼-inch hands
Testing: Did not take part because of back injury.
Projected round: 1st
Kincaid, a late-bloomer, is the best pass-catching tight end in the class. After transferring from San Diego, he became the starter in ’21 and caught 106 passes for 1,400 yards and 16 touchdowns. He suffered a compression fracture in his T (thoracic)-7 and T-8 vertebrae but did not need surgery and was cleared by famed neck and spine surgeon Robert Watkins. He will need a lot of work on blocking, but his primary duty wherever he goes will be to catch passes.
Tight end Darnell Washington, Georgia
Measurements: 6-6½, 264 pounds, 34½-inch arms, 11-inch hands
Testing: 4.64 seconds in 40; 31 vertical; 21 on bench
Projected round: 1st or 2nd
Washington said one of his favorite tight ends was the Packers’ Marcedes Lewis and he may be the closest thing to him physically in the pro game. He didn’t have massive production, in part because Bulldogs’ tight end Brock Bowers is one of the best players in college football. Washington caught only 38 passes for 608 yards and three touchdowns over his past two seasons, but he has a unique skillset and, if he can learn proper blocking technique, he could be a multi-faceted force in the NFL.
Tight end Josh Whyle, Cincinnati
Measurements: 6-6½, 248 pounds, 31½-inch arms, 9½-inch hands
Testing: 4.69 in 40; 33½ vertical; 15 on bench
Projected round: 5th
The size and speed combination will intrigue a lot of coaches and scouts. But for someone so large and athletic, his numbers weren’t that great. He caught 86 passes for 1,011 yards and 15 touchdowns in three seasons as a starter. There may be room for him to put on good weight and become more than a spread tight end. He has had several injuries that may concern scouts.
Tight end Ben Sims, Baylor
Measurements: 6-4½, 250 pounds, 33-inch arms, 9½-inch hands
Testing: 4.58 in 40; 36 vertical; 15 on bench
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Sims’ speed makes him an intriguing prospect and while he set the school record for touchdowns (12), he never had more than four in a season. He’ll need to work a lot on his strength and probably is a developmental player.
Tight end Camren McDonald, Florida State
Measurements: 6-4, 237 pounds; 32½-inch arms, 9¼-inch hands
Testing: 4.98 in 40, 30 vertical, 19 on bench
Projected round: 7th or free agent.
McDonald’s 40-time was affected by a hamstring injury suffered during his pro day and he’s probably closer to 4.75. He’s tall and lean and did his best work when split out wide. He started nine games last year and caught 23 passes for 263 yards and two touchdowns in a less than prolific offense. Reports were he performed well during a week of practice at the Tropical Bowl and that might have raised his stock.
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Safety Jammie Robinson, Florida State
Measurements: 5-10½, 191 pounds, 29⅝-inch arms, 8¾-inch hands
Testing: 4.59 in 40; 33½-inch vertical; 23 on bench.
Projected round: 3rd or 4th
Started for two seasons after transferring from South Carolina and played both safety and nickel. He had 183 tackles, including 12 for loss, 13 pass break-ups and five interceptions in those two years. He was a rabid tackler and showed good toughness, but he’s not a big man and tackling in the NFL is different.
Safety Jartavius “Quan” Martin, Illinois
Measurements: 5-11, 194 pounds, 31-inch arms, 9½-inch hands
Testing: 4.46 in 40; 44 vertical; 15 on bench.
Projected round: 3rd
Martin was a nickel back and projects perfectly to the “star” position in the Packers defense. He has experience at corner and safety and probably could play multiple positions in the secondary given his off-the-charts athletic ability. He had 119 tackles, 22 pass break-ups and four interceptions his final two seasons. At 5-11, he’s not a prototypical safety and will need to show he can handle big receivers and tight ends.
Safety Quindell Johnson, Memphis
Measurements: 6-foot, 201 pounds, 33-inch arms, 9½-inch hands
Testing: 4.53 in 40; 32 vertical, no bench press
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Johnson was a four-year starter and compiled 320 tackles, including 15½ for loss, four forced fumbles, 34 passes broken up and 10 interceptions. He has extremely long arms and is big enough to play either back in the secondary or up at the line of scrimmage. He has the makeup of a very good special teams player.
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Cornerback Tyrique Stevenson, Miami
Measurements: 6-0½, 198 pounds, 32½-inch arms, 9½-inch hands
Testing: 44 in 40; 38½ vertical, no bench press
Projected round: 2nd or 3rd
Started out at Georgia as a hybrid linebacker/safety before transferring to start at cornerback for the Hurricanes. Plays a physical style and uses his size and athletic ability to excel at press coverage. Could wind up playing safety in the NFL. Returned from a torn labrum in ’22 and started all 11 games. Teams will have to investigate an off-field incident while at Georgia.
Tennessee offensive lineman Darnell Wright was brought in for a pre-draft visit by Green Bay.
Tackle Darnell Wright, Tennessee
Measurements: 6-5½, 333 pounds, 33¾-inch arms, 9-inch hands
Testing: 5.01 in 40, 29 vertical, no bench
Projected round: 1st or 2nd
Started immediately as a freshman and played in 47 games with 42 starts. Played mostly at right tackle but played 13 games at left tackle his junior season and two at right guard his freshman season. He had an exceptional senior season and was named first-team all-SEC. He’s built and plays like a road-grader but also didn’t allow a sack last year. Was voted his team’s offensive line practice player of the week at the Senior Bowl.
Tackle Kadeem Telfort, UAB
Measurements: 6-7½, 322 pounds, 36-inch arms, 8½-inch hands
Testing: 5.45 in 40, 24½ vertical, 19 on bench
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Started out at Florida and was suspended for his role in a credit-card fraud scheme. Went to two junior colleges before enrolling at UAB. Started 28 of 31 games at left tackle and was first-team all-CSUA and team captain. Telfort isn’t quite as big as Packers tackle Caleb Jones was as a senior (6-9, 370 pounds), but he is a big man. His massive wingspan is similar and will be worth taking a chance on just based on his size.
Defensive tackle Jaquelin Roy, LSU
Measurements: 6-3½, 305 pounds, 32¾-inch arms, 10⅛-inch hands
Testing: 5.13 in 40; 26 vertical, 30 bench press
Projected round: 5th
An extremely powerful player who could play over the nose or inside as a three-technique. Played at LSU for three seasons and didn’t become a starter until his third year. He may be a bit of a project because of a lack of experience.
Defensive tackle Karl Brooks, Bowling Green
Measurements: 6-3½, 296 pounds, 31½-inch arms, 9 ⅛-inch hands
Testing: 5.08 in 40, 26½ vertical, 28 bench press
Projected round: 5th
Brooks started all five seasons (used a COVID-19 year) and led the team in sacks each seasons, finishing with 27½. He played defensive end in a 3-4 and was used as an edge rusher at times. It’s questionable whether he can stay outside in the NFL and will be better suited as a three-technique, where he might be able to win with quickness.
Defensive tackle Scott Matlock, Boise State
Measurements: 6-4, 296 pounds, 32¾-inch arms, 9-inch hands
Testing: 4.95 in 40, 29½ vertical, 29 bench press
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Matlock started 32 consecutive games and posted 19 tackles for loss in his final three seasons. At 6-4, he could create problems in the middle the way Dean Lowry did when he was shifted inside on passing downs. The big difference is he has long arms.
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Running back Evan Hull, Northwestern
Measurements: 5-10, 209 pounds, 30½-inch arms, 9¼-inch hands
Testing: 4.47 in 40, 37 vertical, 21 bench press
Projected round: 6th
Compact and quick, Hull carried 488 times and averaged 5.0 yards per carry. Most notable about his final two seasons was his 88 catches for 810 yards and four touchdowns. He might not be the shiftiest of runners, but he has had to show good balance in order to be so successful catching the ball. The big question will be whether he can block.
Running back Lew Nichols III, Central Michigan
Measurements: 5-10, 220 pounds, 31-inch arms
Testing: Did not run/hamstring, 37 vertical, 22 bench press
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Built like an NFL back, Nichols had an FBS-best 2,186 all-purpose yards as a junior, but he battled a toe injury last year and had 616 yards rushing and 128 yards receiving. With his size and speed combination, and endurance (341 carries as a junior), he has a chance.
Wide receiver Adonicas Sanders, who played for George Tech before transferring to Temple, was brought in for a pre-draft visit by Green Bay.
Wide receiver Adonicas Sanders, Temple
Measurements: 6-foot, 189 pounds, 32 vertical, 9¼-inch hands
Testing: 4.57 in 40, 32 vertical, 11 bench press
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Transferred from Georgia Tech after earning his business degree. He caught 65 passes for 834 yards and four touchdowns in four seasons. At Temple, he was featured more and caught 37 passes for 437 yards and two touchdowns last year. He was noted for his blocking and run-after-the-catch ability.
Wide receiver Ryan Miller, Furman
Measurements: 6-1, 210 pounds, 30½-inch arms, 9⅛-inch hands
Testing: 4.53 in 40, 32 vertical, no bench press
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Miller served as a receiver/tight end and might interest the Packers because of his potential blocking ability. Despite his average speed, he averaged 14.2 yards per catch and caught 16 touchdowns. He caught 72 passes for 762 yards and seven touchdowns last season.
Wide receiver Dontayvion Wicks, Virginia
Measurements: 6-1½, 206 pounds, 32½-inch arms, 10-inch hands
Testing: 4.62 in 40, 39 vertical, no bench press
Projected round: 3rd or 4th
Though he lacks top-end speed, Wicks had a terrific junior season, catching 57 passes for 1,203 yards (21.1 average) and nine touchdowns. Virginia changed offensives in ’22 and his numbers fell to 30 for 430 and two touchdowns. Wicks has a tremendous wingspan and showed some run after the catch. But he also had 14 drops his final two seasons.
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Quarterback Sean Clifford, Penn State
Measurements: 6-2, 218 pounds, 31½-inch arms, 9⅝-inch hands
Testing: 4.59 in 40, 30½, no bench press
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Clifford, who spent six seasons with Penn State (redshirt and COVID-19 years) holds school records for passing yards, passing touchdowns and completion percentage. He threw for 86 touchdowns and 31 interceptions. He will be 25 in July. He has good size and runs well enough to play in the NFL, but he’s not accurate enough as his 31 interceptions show.
Quarterback Tanner Morgan, Minnesota
Measurements: 6-0½, 204 pounds, 29⅞-inch arms, 9½-inch hands
Testing: 4.91 in 40, 30 vertical, no bench press
Projected round: 7th or free agent
Morgan, who recently turned 24, started all five years he was with the Gophers, completing 62.2% of his passes for 9,453 yards and 65 touchdowns with 32 interceptions. He will be a camp quarterback trying to impress coaches with toughness and pocket-passing ability.
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