Day 1 Draft Discussion
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Pckfn23
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The stupid &%$@ I warned against is happening. Annoying.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I have a bunch of Van Nesses in my distant family tree. I wonder if we are related.
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lupedafiasco
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There shouldn’t have been excuses last year for it but Barry needs to step the $%@# up. I don’t fully blame him because I think Gute has done a terrible job but he’s the next scapegoat so…
I’m tired of investing all these resources in the defense for it to be perpetual &%$@.
I’m tired of investing all these resources in the defense for it to be perpetual &%$@.
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Van Ness is a great athlete. I think with his measurables, we are taking him for the upside. And he should be able to contribute in 2023.
Still on the board when we picked:
Gonzalez
JSN
Levis
Porter Jr.
Smith
Mayer
Jones
Branch
Banks
Johnston
Flowers McDonald IV
Kincaid
And so on
I do think the Packers liked VN, but they probably tried to trade back and didn’t get a good offer. I also think they obviously rated this kid higher than JSN.
The good thing is that VN can get the backup role this year and be ready for 2024 and become a high level player.
Still on the board when we picked:
Gonzalez
JSN
Levis
Porter Jr.
Smith
Mayer
Jones
Branch
Banks
Johnston
Flowers McDonald IV
Kincaid
And so on
I do think the Packers liked VN, but they probably tried to trade back and didn’t get a good offer. I also think they obviously rated this kid higher than JSN.
The good thing is that VN can get the backup role this year and be ready for 2024 and become a high level player.
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BF004
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Feel like I had the exact same reaction today as I did for Gary. 
High upside pick for sure, think, like Gary, he's gunna need a little time.
Although actually like he'll just be thrown into some early snaps regardless with Gary on ACL, then he can step back and 'learn to be a pro' as our front office says.
High upside pick for sure, think, like Gary, he's gunna need a little time.
Although actually like he'll just be thrown into some early snaps regardless with Gary on ACL, then he can step back and 'learn to be a pro' as our front office says.
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kampmanfan4life
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Gute drafts for potential first round. He is fine letting a rookie not play much then come on 2nd year.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑27 Apr 2023 20:50Van Ness is a great athlete. I think with his measurables, we are taking him for the upside. And he should be able to contribute in 2023.
I do think the Packers liked VN, but they probably tried to trade back and didn’t get a good offer. I also think they obviously rated this kid higher than JSN.
The good thing is that VN can get the backup role this year and be ready for 2024 and become a high level player.
So, do we buy Gute looking to trade up talk at all? I think after 25 is possible, but don't see higher than that.
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lupedafiasco
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I wonder what the Jets do. They’re loaded at WR. They took a guard last year. So they do it again and take Torrence? Do they reach for Dawand Jones?
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No sh*t. They picked him.
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lupedafiasco
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That’s also a reason why our cap is the way it is as well.kampmanfan4life wrote: ↑27 Apr 2023 20:52Gute drafts for potential first round. He is fine letting a rookie not play much then come on 2nd year.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑27 Apr 2023 20:50Van Ness is a great athlete. I think with his measurables, we are taking him for the upside. And he should be able to contribute in 2023.
I do think the Packers liked VN, but they probably tried to trade back and didn’t get a good offer. I also think they obviously rated this kid higher than JSN.
The good thing is that VN can get the backup role this year and be ready for 2024 and become a high level player.
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Pckfn23
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Leta also not underestimate him as a 4i or even 3 if he adds some pounds. He may have iDL in his future.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
He isn't the athlete Gary is. Not bad, but not Gary. He was more productive in college. Still don't like it at 13.BF004 wrote: ↑27 Apr 2023 20:51Feel like I had the exact same reaction today as I did for Gary.
High upside pick for sure, think, like Gary, he's gunna need a little time.
Although actually like he'll just be thrown into some early snaps regardless with Gary on ACL, then he can step back and 'learn to be a pro' as our front office says.