Packers Extend Jordan Love 1 year - $22.5 ($13.5g)

[Scott4Pack]

He was going to get 2 years to prove himself no matter what. He gets some cash for that. If he's good we'll make a deal if not Clifford has had his 2 years to figure it out.

If a good QB falls to us at the right place next year, I think we pick him up.

[Scott4Pack]

There is no way this is a win for Love.

It pays him a LOT more NOW. Plus, it has a second year built in. If he balls in 2023 and starts 2024 the same, they will renegotiate his contract. No doubt. This is a very good deal for Love. Just ask him. I think he will probably speak to that at some point.

[Drj820]

It’s a great deal for someone who is unsure how they will do in a prove it year. Pretty simple.

[bud fox]

There is no way this is a win for Love.

It pays him a LOT more NOW. Plus, it has a second year built in. If he balls in 2023 and starts 2024 the same, they will renegotiate his contract. No doubt. This is a very good deal for Love. Just ask him. I think he will probably speak to that at some point.

It isn't better for Love. If it's better for Love its worse for the packers and the worst possible position (monetarily) for the packers was to exercise the option.

It is obviously still good for him as a person, it is a ridiculous amount of money. However he can be cut next year under this option. Under the 5th year option there is no way he is cut.

Also we don't know how the extension is constructed or do we? Could there be incentives built in to get it to 22.5m which are unlikely to be met?

[salmar80]

It’s a great deal for someone who is unsure how they will do in a prove it year. Pretty simple.

How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.

I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...

As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.

[bud fox]

It’s a great deal for someone who is unsure how they will do in a prove it year. Pretty simple.

How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.

I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...

As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.

Could purchase insurance to cover that one-year exposure.

[Drj820]

It’s a great deal for someone who is unsure how they will do in a prove it year. Pretty simple.

How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.

I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...

As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.

We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.

13 million guaranteed over the next couple years is NOTHING in qb Money for a projected starter. And nothing says the packers have to rip the deal up and give him another one I’d love does well in 2023.

Either forcing the packers hand in excerxising the option, or determining to make them pay is the confident move

[Drj820]

Also, I don’t think it’s some big loss for Love. So I’m not really hating on anyone over it…just saying it’s a deal that covers/protects for the potential of failure…

On both sides.

Love and GB

[Yoop]

It’s a great deal for someone who is unsure how they will do in a prove it year. Pretty simple.

How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.

I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...

As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.

We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.

13 million guaranteed over the next couple years is NOTHING in qb Money for a projected starter. And nothing says the packers have to rip the deal up and give him another one I’d love does well in 2023.

Either forcing the packers hand in excerxising the option, or determining to make them pay is the confident move

I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believe

Love has plenty of confidence in himself, he wouldn't have gotten this far if he didn't, I think your under estimating just how hard it is to succeed for young QB's in this league, take a closer look, 70% fail, and it does get better as in Loves case of being coached up for 3 years, still there are no guarantees with that and Love is fully aware that he could struggle, lose confidence, never to be heard from again.

I think folks look at the successes, and fail to realize that for every success, 2 don't, it's why Rodgers got that deal prior to last season, Love got a good deal.

I'd like to hear what ya had to say if you where in Love spot

[Drj820]

How so? This deal makes him easier to cut in 2024 than if they had picked up the option.

I'd say it's a move for a guy who would like his guarantees and insurance now, AND a new set of guarantees next year after taking the league by storm...

As for option 3: Playing with no 5th year option or extension would've been just stupid, because even unshakeable confidence in one's abilities doesn't make one immune to injuries.

We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.

13 million guaranteed over the next couple years is NOTHING in qb Money for a projected starter. And nothing says the packers have to rip the deal up and give him another one I’d love does well in 2023.

Either forcing the packers hand in excerxising the option, or determining to make them pay is the confident move

I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believe

Love has plenty of confidence in himself, he wouldn't have gotten this far if he didn't, I think your under estimating just how hard it is to succeed for young QB's in this league, take a closer look, 70% fail, and it does get better as in Loves case of being coached up for 3 years, still there are no guarantees with that and Love is fully aware that he could struggle, lose confidence, never to be heard from again.

I think folks look at the successes, and fail to realize that for every success, 2 don't, it's why Rodgers got that deal prior to last season, Love got a good deal.

I'd like to hear what ya had to say if you where in Love spot

?? Lol this post makes no sense.

First you guarantee he has confidence, then you list reasons where things could go wrong…like 70% failing and injury.

Trust me, elite athletes all should believe they will be in the 30% that will succeed.

As for me, it’s simple..like I said in first post on the matter at hand…if I thought I was going to ball out, I would not sign through 2024.

If I thought I may struggle, I would secure what I could. (Which is what Love did)

Like I said, it’s a fine deal to sign, just shows both sides aren’t convinced of how things will go.

[Yoop]

We’ve seen lots of guys “bet on themselves” and not take a lower deal for “insurance” or to protect from injury. Many guys would feel disrespected by the packers not believing in him enough to give him the 5th year option. Many would say “okay watch this” and go earn a 100m deal with their play on the field.

13 million guaranteed over the next couple years is NOTHING in qb Money for a projected starter. And nothing says the packers have to rip the deal up and give him another one I’d love does well in 2023.

Either forcing the packers hand in excerxising the option, or determining to make them pay is the confident move

I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believe

Love has plenty of confidence in himself, he wouldn't have gotten this far if he didn't, I think your under estimating just how hard it is to succeed for young QB's in this league, take a closer look, 70% fail, and it does get better as in Loves case of being coached up for 3 years, still there are no guarantees with that and Love is fully aware that he could struggle, lose confidence, never to be heard from again.

I think folks look at the successes, and fail to realize that for every success, 2 don't, it's why Rodgers got that deal prior to last season, Love got a good deal.

I'd like to hear what ya had to say if you where in Love spot

?? Lol this post makes no sense.

First you guarantee he has confidence, then you list reasons where things could go wrong…like 70% failing and injury.

Trust me, elite athletes all should believe they will be in the 30% that will succeed.

As for me, it’s simple..like I said in first post on the matter at hand…if I thought I was going to ball out, I would not sign through 2024.

If I thought I may struggle, I would secure what I could. (Which is what Love did)

Like I said, it’s a fine deal to sign, just shows both sides aren’t convinced of how things will go.

No one knows how things will go, that is the whole point of this conversation, no one pimped out, this was a fair contract for both sides

[Drj820]

I can't believe you even believe what your trying to convince us to believe

Love has plenty of confidence in himself, he wouldn't have gotten this far if he didn't, I think your under estimating just how hard it is to succeed for young QB's in this league, take a closer look, 70% fail, and it does get better as in Loves case of being coached up for 3 years, still there are no guarantees with that and Love is fully aware that he could struggle, lose confidence, never to be heard from again.

I think folks look at the successes, and fail to realize that for every success, 2 don't, it's why Rodgers got that deal prior to last season, Love got a good deal.

I'd like to hear what ya had to say if you where in Love spot

?? Lol this post makes no sense.

First you guarantee he has confidence, then you list reasons where things could go wrong…like 70% failing and injury.

Trust me, elite athletes all should believe they will be in the 30% that will succeed.

As for me, it’s simple..like I said in first post on the matter at hand…if I thought I was going to ball out, I would not sign through 2024.

If I thought I may struggle, I would secure what I could. (Which is what Love did)

Like I said, it’s a fine deal to sign, just shows both sides aren’t convinced of how things will go.

No one knows how things will go, that is the whole point of this conversation, no one pimped out, this was a fair contract for both sides

The Packers have a guy in his 4th and 5th year in the league that they expect to be their starting QB for about 23 million over the course of the next TWO years….this is GREAT deal for GB.

[go pak go]

?? Lol this post makes no sense.

First you guarantee he has confidence, then you list reasons where things could go wrong…like 70% failing and injury.

Trust me, elite athletes all should believe they will be in the 30% that will succeed.

As for me, it’s simple..like I said in first post on the matter at hand…if I thought I was going to ball out, I would not sign through 2024.

If I thought I may struggle, I would secure what I could. (Which is what Love did)

Like I said, it’s a fine deal to sign, just shows both sides aren’t convinced of how things will go.

No one knows how things will go, that is the whole point of this conversation, no one pimped out, this was a fair contract for both sides

The Packers have a guy in his 4th and 5th year in the league that they expect to be their starting QB for about 23 million over the course of the next TWO years….this is GREAT deal for GB.

You're making this way more than it needs to be.

This is not a dramatic deal. It's a 1 year deal. This year is still based on the rookie contract. All this is simply an additional year extension for the Packers and Love to know they will be with each other for 2 years. Love is taking a $7 million haircut if the worst case happens but he is happy because he still gets $13 million if the worst case happens.

The Packers are also happy because they save $7 million if the worst case happens and only pays $2.5 Million if Love exceeds expectations.

But this isn't a lack of confidence from Love. In fact, Love could be looking at himself getting $2.5 million more with this deal than a 5th year option.

Its intelligent risk management. Nobody should turn away life-changing, generational wealth when provided the option. And because it's only for one year, Love can still have confidence in himself and get the real contract 2025 and beyond.

[Drj820]

No one knows how things will go, that is the whole point of this conversation, no one pimped out, this was a fair contract for both sides

The Packers have a guy in his 4th and 5th year in the league that they expect to be their starting QB for about 23 million over the course of the next TWO years….this is GREAT deal for GB.

You're making this way more than it needs to be.

This is not a dramatic deal. It's a 1 year deal. This year is still based on the rookie contract. All this is simply an additional year extension for the Packers and Love to know they will be with each other for 2 years. Love is taking a $7 million haircut if the worst case happens but he is happy because he still gets $13 million if the worst case happens.

The Packers are also happy because they save $7 million if the worst case happens and only pays $2.5 Million if Love exceeds expectations.

But this isn't a lack of confidence from Love. In fact, Love could be looking at himself getting $2.5 million more with this deal than a 5th year option.

Its intelligent risk management. Nobody should turn away life-changing, generational wealth when provided the option. And because it's only for one year, Love can still have confidence in himself and get the real contract 2025 and beyond.

I’m not making it more than it needs to be. I’m just making a benign observation that Love took the deal because he too is hedging for the possibility that he is not successful. Simple.

Any post after the initial post has just been defending the rationale behind my observation

[APB]

I think the larger point to take away from this extension may be the Packers are still not sold on Jordan Love as the heir apparent. And by accepting the offer, I’m not so sure Love is confident he is either.

[bud fox]

The reality is the Packers don't think enough about Love to give him the 5th year.

Love isn't certain he will have a good enough year in his first starting season.

It's cheaper enough that the Packers may give the 2 years no matter what but also if Love really stinks it is also now possible to get rid of him easily enough.

Win for the pack on the deal. Not great signalling though - if 5th year was picked up would have been much more promising.

[Drj820]

You guys are getting at what I’m getting at.

Loves been in the building and been a good soldier for 3 years.

He’s about to be handed the starting job.

We pretty much all agree that he needs to be given 2 years to either sink or swim.

Thinking of the 5th year as basically an opportunity to pay him 20ish million over two years to fully evaluate him is not that much risk and would be the obvious choice if the team didn’t have major reservations about giving him that second year to try out.

The strange part is that both sides didn’t just do the obvious.

[wallyuwl]

The strange part is that both sides didn’t just do the obvious.

What I was thinking.

[salmar80]

Sort of ironic that the poster boy for taking deals a year too early to get early guarantees is....Aaron Rodgers. Especially early in his career he took extensions with PLENTY of contract left and thus with relatively little leverage. In the process, AR missed out on chances to hold the team hostage for even more monstrous deals, but he also was protected in the years he was injured.

Anyone think AR lacked confidence in his abilities?

It's easy to say "just go all-in!" when it ain't your money, not your injury risk.

One QB injury prediction site:
https://www.draftsharks.com/injury-pred ... ction%5D=3

[Drj820]

So you agree with us, you just respond with “someone else went this same route 15 years ago too!!”

I think we are getting on the same page now.