What do we really have in Doubs?

[Scott4Pack]

I would like to discuss Romeo Doubs for a bit. I enjoyed his rookie season last year. But I have to admit that I don’t really see what will potentially make him a very good WR yet. Coaches talk about his potential and his ability to work the middle of the field and intermediate routes. But is this all talk or do they really see some exceptional ability in this guy?

I would love to hope that he could haul in at least 70 catches this year and maybe 800 - 900 yards (or more!). If he can get at least five TDs that would be great too, as we’d mostly expect him to help move the chains as well.

What have you guys seen when he has practiced or been in games that gives you a lot of hope that he will be good (at least above average) this year? And still trending upward from 2023 and beyond? Thanks.

[Scott4Pack]

I’ll give the first answer, since it is on my mind now.

Doubs, by all accounts, is Jordan Love’s go-to guy already. That should assure that Doubs will see the ball more than any other receiver, probably. With that should come production.

[BF004]

He has demonstrated on the field he has top end speed and will beat you deep, 40 time be damned.

Seems to kind of have the it factor. Like he just sees the field better, knows how to get open and get off the line.

He might not have that top 10-15 ceiling, but his floor is already way up there, imo.

[RingoCStarrQB]

With Rodgers out of the picture Doubs will emerge as a great GoTo receiver in 2023 due to his great hands and ability to make catches in tight spaces.

[Crazylegs Starks]

Greg Jennings, and to a slightly lesser extent Davante Adams, came in day one with a knack for running routes, being where he was supposed to, and being on the same page as the QBs. I can see the same thing in Doubs. I don't see his potential as elite, but rather good to very good, like an occasional Pro Bowl type if that makes sense.

[Drj820]

Il let ya know in 4 months

[NCF]

knows how to get open and get off the line.

The bolded is what he specifically struggled with as a rookie. If he can make some improvements there, I am on board with him being a potential #1 WR.

[Yoop]

Greg Jennings, and to a slightly lesser extent Davante Adams, came in day one with a knack for running routes, being where he was supposed to, and being on the same page as the QBs. I can see the same thing in Doubs. I don't see his potential as elite, but rather good to very good, like an occasional Pro Bowl type if that makes sense.

what about Cobb, imo he was the most ready to romp of all of em, just like Watson and Doubs last year both Jennings and Adams didn't have receivers that could keep them on the bench, both needed to play as rookies, Cobb had GJ, Nelson, Jones and even the aging Driver ahead of him, but still had 375 yrds as a rookie, heck if Watson would have been healthy all last season he'd of had 1200 yrds or more, I think thats the biggest reason we don't see more rookies with great rookie receiving seasons, teams don't need them, or want the rookie mistakes that may happen, Cobb had near a K his second season as a slot receiver.

[TheSkeptic]

knows how to get open and get off the line.

The bolded is what he specifically struggled with as a rookie. If he can make some improvements there, I am on board with him being a potential #1 WR.

The fact is that Watson is WR#1. Watson is going to draw the double team because there is not a CB in the league that can match his combination of size and speed and agility.

Doubs is likely to be a very good WR#2. He will likely be single covered most of the time and so he will likely be open more than Watson will be. Right now he is an upgrade over Lazard as a receiver but not in the running game. He has good size and he is an overachiever with everything necessary to make defenses sorry that they can't double cover both him and Watson. But he is neither Adams nor Watson and he is never going to be all pro. He needs experience in route running and he needs to secure the ball better.

If Reed is what we think, Doubs is going to get even less quality coverage and his stats are going to look even better than what he is.

[lupedafiasco]

Unless Doubs improves his ability to beat press and get off the line better he’s a really subpar WR2 to decent WR3. He has looked really good in practices where there is less physicality but when the pads are on or in games he has looked less stellar.

[BSA]

Here's some Doubs highlights from rookie season. Lots of in-breaking routes, but he won outside too and that's a big deal.
He also beat the Pats top CB, Jack Jones in the red zone for a TD - that too is great work from a rookie WR. Lots to build on and as noted by scott4pack, Doubs worked with Love in the offseason, joining SoCal passing sessions with Steve Calhoun of Armed & Dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpUfNOPfSQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KTwn4WKV7I
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[Crazylegs Starks]

Greg Jennings, and to a slightly lesser extent Davante Adams, came in day one with a knack for running routes, being where he was supposed to, and being on the same page as the QBs. I can see the same thing in Doubs. I don't see his potential as elite, but rather good to very good, like an occasional Pro Bowl type if that makes sense.

what about Cobb, imo he was the most ready to romp of all of em, just like Watson and Doubs last year both Jennings and Adams didn't have receivers that could keep them on the bench, both needed to play as rookies, Cobb had GJ, Nelson, Jones and even the aging Driver ahead of him, but still had 375 yrds as a rookie, heck if Watson would have been healthy all last season he'd of had 1200 yrds or more, I think thats the biggest reason we don't see more rookies with great rookie receiving seasons, teams don't need them, or want the rookie mistakes that may happen, Cobb had near a K his second season as a slot receiver.

Cobb was a slot receiver, he couldn't consistently perform as an outside receiver, so I don't even think of him as being in the same class as those other guys

[Yoop]

Greg Jennings, and to a slightly lesser extent Davante Adams, came in day one with a knack for running routes, being where he was supposed to, and being on the same page as the QBs. I can see the same thing in Doubs. I don't see his potential as elite, but rather good to very good, like an occasional Pro Bowl type if that makes sense.

what about Cobb, imo he was the most ready to romp of all of em, just like Watson and Doubs last year both Jennings and Adams didn't have receivers that could keep them on the bench, both needed to play as rookies, Cobb had GJ, Nelson, Jones and even the aging Driver ahead of him, but still had 375 yrds as a rookie, heck if Watson would have been healthy all last season he'd of had 1200 yrds or more, I think thats the biggest reason we don't see more rookies with great rookie receiving seasons, teams don't need them, or want the rookie mistakes that may happen, Cobb had near a K his second season as a slot receiver.

Cobb was a slot receiver, he couldn't consistently perform as an outside receiver, so I don't even think of him as being in the same class as those other guys

Cobb ran every route in the tree in 2014 for 1300 yrds, between he and Nelson they totaled 2800 yrds that season, and Cobb averaged 14 yrds a reception, so I disagree that Cobb was JUST a slot receiver, we use him there because he is or was so good inside and we had receivers that fit better outside, but Cobb was such a good route runner that he could play inside or out, why would anyone discount a slot receiver that when healthy is a 1000 yrd receiver, that makes no sense at all

[Yoop]

knows how to get open and get off the line.

The bolded is what he specifically struggled with as a rookie. If he can make some improvements there, I am on board with him being a potential #1 WR.

The fact is that Watson is WR#1. Watson is going to draw the double team because there is not a CB in the league that can match his combination of size and speed and agility.

Doubs is likely to be a very good WR#2. He will likely be single covered most of the time and so he will likely be open more than Watson will be. Right now he is an upgrade over Lazard as a receiver but not in the running game. He has good size and he is an overachiever with everything necessary to make defenses sorry that they can't double cover both him and Watson. But he is neither Adams nor Watson and he is never going to be all pro. He needs experience in route running and he needs to secure the ball better.

If Reed is what we think, Doubs is going to get even less quality coverage and his stats are going to look even better than what he is.

very rarely does any receiver have designated double coverage, and slot receivers ALWAYS (always ) face support coverage, most of there routes go pass ILB's and safety's who are rarely ever in man coverage, part of there responsibility's are defending those zones slot receivers run through, so not only do they have to beat a nickel CB, they also have to beat those support players.

Watson will be on one boundary, possibly Doubs, Reed, Wicks, even Toure on the other, in single high safety scheme that guy will have to decide who he helps over the top and it wont automatically be Watson.

[Crazylegs Starks]

what about Cobb, imo he was the most ready to romp of all of em, just like Watson and Doubs last year both Jennings and Adams didn't have receivers that could keep them on the bench, both needed to play as rookies, Cobb had GJ, Nelson, Jones and even the aging Driver ahead of him, but still had 375 yrds as a rookie, heck if Watson would have been healthy all last season he'd of had 1200 yrds or more, I think thats the biggest reason we don't see more rookies with great rookie receiving seasons, teams don't need them, or want the rookie mistakes that may happen, Cobb had near a K his second season as a slot receiver.

Cobb was a slot receiver, he couldn't consistently perform as an outside receiver, so I don't even think of him as being in the same class as those other guys

Cobb ran every route in the tree in 2014 for 1300 yrds, between he and Nelson they totaled 2800 yrds that season, and Cobb averaged 14 yrds a reception, so I disagree that Cobb was JUST a slot receiver, we use him there because he is or was so good inside and we had receivers that fit better outside, but Cobb was such a good route runner that he could play inside or out, why would anyone discount a slot receiver that when healthy is a 1000 yrd receiver, that makes no sense at all

Not discounting Cobb, but since his strength was as a slot guy, I prefer to compare him to other slot guys as opposed to outside guys like Doubs. The slot guys don't have to contend with as much press coverage or as many top corners week in and week out as the outside guys.

But if I include Cobb and go strictly by rookie years, I'd rank the "most ready to romp" like this:

Jennings
Jones
Adams
___
Doubs
Cobb
___
MVS (by limiting his routes, it made him more effective then expected)
___
Javon Walker
Nelson

Down at the very bottom would be guys like Robert Ferguson, Amari Rodgers, Jamon Moore

[BSA]

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Anybody wanna talk about Romeo Doubs in the Romeo Doubs thread ?

from Dane Brugler, pre-draft

SUMMARY:
A four-year starter at Nevada, Doubs was primarily an outside wide receiver in former head coach Jay Norvell’s version of the Air Raid offense. A high school quarterback, he made a quick transition to receiver with the Wolf Pack and finished his career fourth in school history in receiving yards (one spot ahead of Nate Burleson).

Doubs lived with QB Carson Strong and TE Cole Turner since his freshman year, and that chemistry was clear on the football field with his ability to make plays at all three levels. While he has the footwork to separate out of his breaks, he must improve his tempo and setup on non-linear routes. Overall, Doubs doesn’t consistently play bigger than he is, but he has the speed to stack cornerbacks vertically or be a catch-and-go creator.
He projects as a potential 4th receiver on an NFL depth chart with punt-return value.

GRADE: 6th Round

Seems like Doubs has already outplayed his draft forecast and shown himself on the path to be quality NFL WR.
Did Romeo return any punts last year ?

[BSA]

from the internet:

2022 season review

Romeo Doubs didn’t take long to make impressive plays. It started all the way back in training camp.
His ability to get open and make 50/50 catches stood out, and he continued that into the regular season.

In just his third game, against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Week 3, Doubs caught all 8 of his targets for 73 yards and a touchdown.
Doubs made eight catches in the game which, according to Wed Hodkiewicz of Packers.com, ranks second all-time for a Packers rookie.

In just a few games, Doubs showed how good he can be.
His best play of the season came on this stunning touchdown catch against the Buffalo Bills in Week 8.

ROMEO DOUBS WHAT A CATCH. #GoPackGo


: Stream on NFL+ https://t.co/c9RP6Gj8id pic.twitter.com/P1dNwIvz9d

[Scott4Pack]

I watched those highlight videos of him and the one thing that stood out to me was the HANDS. Doubs clearly has very good hands, not only on open passes, but it traffic and jump balls too.

[BSA]

.From Packers Wire:

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/0 ... rdan-love/

"It’s only one OTA practice in late May, and the pads aren’t even on. However, if there was a standout performer for the Green Bay Packers at Wednesday’s practice, it was second-year wide receiver Romeo Doubs.

Practice was cut slightly short due to some incoming rain, but before then, Doubs was a go-to target of Jordan Love’s. His first noteworthy play came on a third and 10 drill with Love buying time as the pocket collapsed. During the scramble-like drill, Doubs found the soft spot down the left sideline between the cornerback and safety, giving Love a wide enough window to drop the ball into for a completion.

“Going into Year 2, I’m playing a lot faster,'” said Doubs after practice. “So I don’t want to say comfortable, because I know being comfortable comes with some sort of complacent area. But just humbly speaking, I’m playing a lot faster.”

"To end the practice, the Packers ran a two-minute drill, with the situation being that the score was tied. On that drive, Doubs caught four passes, including several quick slants with some yards after the catch and an out route towards the sidelines. The offense ended up within the opponent’s 10-yard line and had a field goal opportunity to win the game with eight seconds left.

Doubs spent time during the offseason working out with Love on several occasions. He is also familiar and has spent time with Steve Calhoun, Love’s long-time quarterback coach. On Wednesday, we saw the early dividends of that time spent together, which to some degree, has helped develop some chemistry between the two. Doubs’ route running ability helped him create space, Love was often looking in his direction, and the timing was precise.

“I’ve been working with Jordan as well this offseason,” Doubs said. “I got with him plenty of times. I met Steve (Calhoun) going into my senior year of college, so I’ve been around him for quite a while.”

[BSA]

one thing that stood out to me was the HANDS

you nailed it