2023 Training Camp - 7/27

[Pugger]

Also (related), I thought 7th-rounder Isaiah McDuffie outplayed our Round 1 pick at the same position last year, and that Quay only got the nod over him due to "politics."


So also, Love had a nice day, made lots of nice plays, only negative was the INT and it was more of a great Jaire play than a bad decision by QB1.

Jaire will do that against the best QBs out there.

[Captain_Ben]

Thanks. Sounds like Love had a good day.

[go pak go]

Also (related), I thought 7th-rounder Isaiah McDuffie outplayed our Round 1 pick at the same position last year, and that Quay only got the nod over him due to "politics."


So also, Love had a nice day, made lots of nice plays, only negative was the INT and it was more of a great Jaire play than a bad decision by QB1.

Jaire Alexander seems to have elevated to god mode in TC so far.

[Captain_Ben]

Also (related), I thought 7th-rounder Isaiah McDuffie outplayed our Round 1 pick at the same position last year, and that Quay only got the nod over him due to "politics."


So also, Love had a nice day, made lots of nice plays, only negative was the INT and it was more of a great Jaire play than a bad decision by QB1.

Jaire Alexander seems to have elevated to god mode in TC so far.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him establish himself as that Revis/Sherman type shutdown CB. He is my favorite Packer currently. That presnap stance looks just like Deion Sanders.

[YoHoChecko]

Watson needs to prove he's truly a legit #1 receiver. The same is true for Doubs and Reed as #2s as well. Therefore I don't consider the receiving corps to be any better than it was while Adams was still around at this point.

Watson proved that to me last year, heck so did Doubs.

I'm with CWIMM on this. I have the highest of high hopes, but I need to actually see Watson dominate for more than a 4-game streak; to take another step, fix the drops, display a true "my ball" mentality, and show up consistently. He has the tools and the work ethic. Hopefully he has the hands and the instincts and the edge, all consistently

[YoHoChecko]

Watson needs to prove he's truly a legit #1 receiver. The same is true for Doubs and Reed as #2s as well. Therefore I don't consider the receiving corps to be any better than it was while Adams was still around at this point.

Watson proved that to me last year, heck so did Doubs.

I'm with CWIMM on this. I have the highest of high hopes, but I need to actually see Watson dominate for more than a 4-game streak; to take another step, fix the drops, display a true "my ball" mentality, and show up consistently. He has the tools and the work ethic. Hopefully he has the hands and the instincts and the edge, all consistently

worth adding, I THINK Watson has it all and will show up. I'm just saying I can't annoint him on my opinion

[Yoop]

Watson proved that to me last year, heck so did Doubs.

I'm with CWIMM on this. I have the highest of high hopes, but I need to actually see Watson dominate for more than a 4-game streak; to take another step, fix the drops, display a true "my ball" mentality, and show up consistently. He has the tools and the work ethic. Hopefully he has the hands and the instincts and the edge, all consistently

worth adding, I THINK Watson has it all and will show up. I'm just saying I can't annoint him on my opinion

It was so beyond obvious even in the small sampling that Watson has all the makings to be the best receiver the team has drafted in your lifetime Yoho, of course he still has to prove that, but he has more gears then Nelson could hope for, more raw speed then Tae and rival Sharpe for tenacity in his rookie season, imo only a injury could cause a set back.

Doubs showed that he was more ready to play as a rookie then any receiver brought in since we drafted Adams in 2014, he had some drop issues early as we often see from a rookie, but when it came to running routes he was sharp.

I don't think we have to rely on our opinion, most stuff I've read expect a big year for Watson, so it's not just us.

[YoHoChecko]

Yeah [mention]Yoop[/mention] Watson is MY GUY. I wanted him as much if not more than anyone on this board pre-draft. I was onto him earlier and stayed on him. I think he is ceiling is limitless.

But I’ve seen limitless ceilings top out below potential enough times to want to see consistency in real time before saying he is a legit #1

[Yoop]

Yeah @Yoop Watson is MY GUY. I wanted him as much if not more than anyone on this board pre-draft. I was onto him earlier and stayed on him. I think he is ceiling is limitless.

But I’ve seen limitless ceilings top out below potential enough times to want to see consistency in real time before saying he is a legit #1

ahhh, I just don't get the reservations, and what the heck is it with all this @yoop, it sounds so impersonal. most of us been hashing and bashing this stuff for over 15 years, my name is Mike, glad to meet ya Maxwell

anyway I guess we've both seen, specially pre draft players we thought where can't miss guys, bust, heck half this forum Thought Adams was a bust his second season, but Adams imo showed mental toughness as a rookie, same year two as he played threw some nagging injury's and fought threw some lack of concentration drops.

I think the best measure of a player is how they handle adversity, do they rise above it or falter, and not just high draft picks, but also guy's like Scantling, but the mid and late round picks just take longer, my argument concerning our avenue of WR additions has always stemmed with readiness to play, back in 2018 we needed walk on talent far more then players to develop, and both Watson and Doubs where able to show that almost immediately.

I also feel it is better to have 3 good receivers versus one great one and a bunch of wannabe's, because good requires more attention and forces a DC to design coverages to stop them, thats why to me Watson, Doubs, and Reed are a more dangerous group then our last years of Adams, MVS, Lazard, and all the others that rotated through 1265.

yes this will all have to prove to be accurate in the future, but I like my odds of being right.

[go pak go]

Watson is incredibly raw. That was evident last year.

But my gawd does that kid have out of this world talent.

[APB]

Two days in and I think I've seen Toure's name in a two tweets. Reed, otoh, has been mentioned a ton.

Looks the the Rank the Roster crowd who argued Reed over Toure may have nailed it.

Speaking of which, has the WR pecking order been mentioned? Are they all swapping out randomly?

Spoke too soon...

[go pak go]

Two days in and I think I've seen Toure's name in a two tweets. Reed, otoh, has been mentioned a ton.

Looks the the Rank the Roster crowd who argued Reed over Toure may have nailed it.

Speaking of which, has the WR pecking order been mentioned? Are they all swapping out randomly?

Spoke too soon...

I thought of you when I read blogger Andy's tweet.

I definitely was and am in the camp that Jayden Reed will be our #3, but I was and am also absolutely in the camp that Toure will be a contributor this year and a player to be excited about.

Not surprised but super excited as I have read Toure's name a lot in the tweets so far. Have definitely noticed an absence of the Day 3 rookie WRs outside of a great block by Wicks (though he now has a concussion)

Overall I'm just really excited for our WR group.

[CWIMM]

Also (related), I thought 7th-rounder Isaiah McDuffie outplayed our Round 1 pick at the same position last year, and that Quay only got the nod over him due to "politics."

Quay struggled at times last season but in my opinion he showed much more potential than McDuffie ever will.

Watson proved that to me last year, heck so did Doubs.

Watson and Doubs showed promise in their rookie campaign. But it's far too early to consider them legit #1 and #2 receivers after they have combined for 83 catches for 1,036 yards at the pro level. In my opinion they definitely have to prove they can consistently put up impressive numbers before I consider them to be up to that task.

I also feel it is better to have 3 good receivers versus one great one and a bunch of wannabe's, because good requires more attention and forces a DC to design coverages to stop them, thats why to me Watson, Doubs, and Reed are a more dangerous group then our last years of Adams, MVS, Lazard, and all the others that rotated through 1265.

I agree that's it's significantly better to have three good receivers compared to one elite one and a bunch of JAGs. But at this point we don't know if the Packers actually have them.