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Now that's the Packer fan spirit! Awesome. In Carlson We Trust. GO PACK GO!TheSkeptic wrote: ↑20 Aug 2023 01:0252 yards and kicked it out of the endzone.![]()
Go for 2 every time and all is well.
Need to stack successes! Bring it the next 3 weeks.
I could see it being the case that there are a fair amount of kickers who go through a rough patch, are cut (and thus this is what registers in my mind), and then they quietly resurface later with another team and don't have any major issues to speak of again.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑18 Aug 2023 15:02This is just not really the case...
Yeah, you could obviously get way better statistics for any kicker by just ignoring all of their misses, but in Crosby's case, certain misses should be disregarded because he tended to miss a lot in short stretches before recovering completely, whereas with other kickers, they either 1) don't have a good FG percentage in general; or 2) when they start sucking they never really recover. And in both of those cases, they tend to randomly miss high pressure kicks at inopportune times, whereas Crosby never really did because his sucking was concentrated and anything but random.
Crosby did not just miss a lot in short stretches. His first 4 seasons he missed a total of 30 FGs and was under 80%. Those are bad years. He had a good 2011, but then an atrocious 212. 2013 was really good, 2014 was not good, 2015 & 2016 were decent. Then an ok 2017, an ok 2018, and 2 great seasons in 2019 and 2020. 2021 again awful. 2022 decent. He had a lot of bad years where he just missed consistently throughout the year with some really really awful games. 2012 he missed in 9 of the 13 games he kicked in. 2014 it was 6 of the 14 games. 2018 was the result of 1 bad game. 2021 was 6 of the 16 games with a miss.
He wasn't any different than most kickers.
Most kickers who have been around a handful seasons or more have a better percentage than Crosby: https://stathead.com/tiny/Pnmw7
There are ALOT of kickers who suck, are cut, and then recover with a new team. The one thing different about Crosby is that he was not cut.
Crosby absolutely did miss high pressure kicks, it was only in the last 3-4 years were he was almost automatic at them.
Well, I suppose that by December enough guys will be on IR or proved themselves to be expendable so the Packers could resign Crosby to kick extra points and any FG's under 35 yards in the playoffs - if the Packers might make the playoffs. 2 kickers on the roster are not impossible. But you can't be having the opposing team catching kickoffs at the 15 yard line and Crosby has maybe a 5% chance of kicking a 45 yard FG in GB in December or later.
And I really don't think they care about that this year. This season has the feel of seeing what they have, and what they can build toward next season.
Bingo.paco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023 22:34And I really don't think they care about that this year. This season has the feel of seeing what they have, and what they can build toward next season.
If it pops off this year, great. But they are young and are going to hit snags. If certain guys check out and make jumps, 2024/25 are the real target years to win.
I get that this is probably the approach, but I vehemently disagree with it. I want us to make a playoff push, and two games could be the difference between making it or missing it. Last year, we missed by one game. I am not okay with that.paco wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023 22:34And I really don't think they care about that this year. This season has the feel of seeing what they have, and what they can build toward next season.
If it pops off this year, great. But they are young and are going to hit snags. If certain guys check out and make jumps, 2024/25 are the real target years to win.