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we all know taylors ceiling. Wilsons ceiling is worth further evaluation
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smart money, ya can teach a player to hit, tackle and block, vision and patience are born given traits, and Williams has shown a abundance of both, I sort of expected this, same with other ST's players, the ability to play either O or D has to be considered over just the ability to play ST's
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I'm glad they are going with potential this time. I was miffed last year when they kept Taylor over Goodson.
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In any case, RB3 is barely used. Only needed if there's an injury. Wilson, at this point, offers little on ST or in the passing game. I expect he'll be inactive often.Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 15:10I'm glad they are going with potential this time. I was miffed last year when they kept Taylor over Goodson.
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I think it has more to do with Dillon in the last year of his deal and Jones being older of for the RB position. They need to develop someone to at the very least be a realizable RB2 next season.paco wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 15:12In any case, RB3 is barely used. Only needed if there's an injury. Wilson, at this point, offers little on ST or in the passing game. I expect he'll be inactive often.Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 15:10I'm glad they are going with potential this time. I was miffed last year when they kept Taylor over Goodson.
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You are probably right. In all fairness, there's a possibility that Wilson is RB1 next year. Dillon and Jones might both be gone.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 15:15I think it has more to do with Dillon in the last year of his deal and Jones being older of for the RB position. They need to develop someone to at the very least be a realizable RB2 next season.paco wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 15:12In any case, RB3 is barely used. Only needed if there's an injury. Wilson, at this point, offers little on ST or in the passing game. I expect he'll be inactive often.Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 15:10
I'm glad they are going with potential this time. I was miffed last year when they kept Taylor over Goodson.
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Four CB is kinda wild. I really don't get keeping Newman at this point. I don't see him as even serviceable at any OL spot, and ofc there's no real ST value in an eleventh lineman (I mean yeah sure, gotta have guys on the OL for punts/FGs, but c'mon).
It sucks that Moore got hurt because I liked him way more than anyone else we have at S other than Ford. Sure, he could return, but I don't remember us actually bringing back a guy we let go with an injury settlement, so I am counting him out 'til further notice. Owens is trash IMO but hey, cool that Simone Biles will be a Packer fan for a bit longer.
It sucks that Moore got hurt because I liked him way more than anyone else we have at S other than Ford. Sure, he could return, but I don't remember us actually bringing back a guy we let go with an injury settlement, so I am counting him out 'til further notice. Owens is trash IMO but hey, cool that Simone Biles will be a Packer fan for a bit longer.
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Really wish they would have resigned Amos instead of Moore and Owens but alas, this team is going young. There’s only a handful of vets at all (Bahk, Jones, P. Smith, Campbell and Douglas)
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Those that are still around a year from now will all be veterans - when it counts. Plus an new draft class headed by two 1st round picks. Should be a lot of fun to watch. This will be a good team this year and maybe great for a long time after this year.lake shark wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 16:16Really wish they would have resigned Amos instead of Moore and Owens but alas, this team is going young. There’s only a handful of vets at all (Bahk, Jones, P. Smith, Campbell and Douglas)
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If we consider the Tenuta IR move and count OL as 10 and ST as 3 for opening day considerations, the real standouts here to me are keeping only 4 CBs, only 3 TEs, 5 ILB and 6 EDGE....
and so I guess I would predict that waivers would likely add a TE and maybe a CB at the expense of an ILB or OL in the coming days and we'll end up with a pretty normal roster construction.
Also wouldn't be surprised if Wilson at some point over the season is released and bumped down to PS where he can elevate up on game days, but maybe not. As I've said before, I'm still getting used to what teams can/will do under the PS elevation rules; my roster construction predictions are commonly wrong
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I also don’t imagine a way that we keep 11 OLinemen on the roster. Stranger things have maybe happened. If it’s really about keeping the best players… (But then there’s Newman.)
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Which Williams are we talking about?Yoop wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 14:41smart money, ya can teach a player to hit, tackle and block, vision and patience are born given traits, and Williams has shown a abundance of both, I sort of expected this, same with other ST's players, the ability to play either O or D has to be considered over just the ability to play ST's
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About 10 names that I remember in this list. A few starters. Only 1 "blue", Sam Shields. I expect Heath and Wilson to be rotational players or solid backups, but Cox could be special. As a result, Preston Smith's days are numbered as he will soon be the 4th best OLB. Can't be paying 16 mil to your 4th best OLB.
I highly doubt there's any chance of Wilson being the #1 running back on the Packers in 2024. With the team not saving a ton of cap space by moving on from Jones after this season I expect him to be around next season as well.
First of all I believe it's far too early to consider Preston ending up as being only the fourth best outside linebacker on the roster. In addition, the Packers moving on from him next offseason would result in a total of $14 million of dead money counting against their cap. Therefore there's not a ton of incentive to release him before the start of the 2024 season.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 03:43About 10 names that I remember in this list. A few starters. Only 1 "blue", Sam Shields. I expect Heath and Wilson to be rotational players or solid backups, but Cox could be special. As a result, Preston Smith's days are numbered as he will soon be the 4th best OLB. Can't be paying 16 mil to your 4th best OLB.
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Dead money doesn’t mean much in a vacuum without knowing the offsetting savings, or about 16.3M I believe. So the opportunity cost of a 2024 move is 3.2M, not very substantial. But then also added benefit of having clean books in 2025 which is harder to quantify.
Either way, I think it’s likely he sticks around too, just making the point that just thinking of the dead money only gives an incomplete pic.
ahhhhh, Wilson, not WilliamsRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 20:15Which Williams are we talking about?Yoop wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 14:41smart money, ya can teach a player to hit, tackle and block, vision and patience are born given traits, and Williams has shown a abundance of both, I sort of expected this, same with other ST's players, the ability to play either O or D has to be considered over just the ability to play ST's
He's not included on the list because he wasn't acquired the exact same way (he was someone else's UDFA that GB picked up for their PS mid-season), but Tramon Williams was one of the more successful UDFA's GB has had.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 03:43About 10 names that I remember in this list. A few starters. Only 1 "blue", Sam Shields. I expect Heath and Wilson to be rotational players or solid backups, but Cox could be special. As a result, Preston Smith's days are numbered as he will soon be the 4th best OLB. Can't be paying 16 mil to your 4th best OLB.