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"The Miami Dolphins weren't the only team interested in acquiring Jonathan Taylor from the Indianapolis Colts.
The Green Bay Packers also were in talks with the Colts and had legitimate interest in trading for the star running back per sources"
WOW
"The Miami Dolphins weren't the only team interested in acquiring Jonathan Taylor from the Indianapolis Colts.
The Green Bay Packers also were in talks with the Colts and had legitimate interest in trading for the star running back per sources"
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IT. IS. TIME
I actually agree with us inquiring. The price is too high but if the price went down, I could see a scenario where bringing him in would be a positive.
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Not sure I buy it, but no harm in inquiring.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Gute said on several occasions " we'll be in on every available player discussion"
That was him telling other players/ agents: there's a new regime in Titletown
IT. IS. TIME
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Looking at all the ways Gute has brought players in over the years and worked FA, Cap, Trades, in season and out, etc. I have little doubt he's always looking for ways to improve this roster. personally I think the likelihood of landing someone like Taylor was probably low for a few reasons, mainly money, I also wouldn't doubt Gute was checking into it and had a plan.
Man we had a lot of starting Safetys who were UDFAs. And the play reflected it too.
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Packers too often are a "contender" per the media, but it is usually a negotiation ploy by the other team. I suspect that is the case here.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
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Since Gute's been here since '18, who is the new regime?
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Welcome! Thanks for trying us out here.musclestang wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 11:16Looking at all the ways Gute has brought players in over the years and worked FA, Cap, Trades, in season and out, etc. I have little doubt he's always looking for ways to improve this roster. personally I think the likelihood of landing someone like Taylor was probably low for a few reasons, mainly money, I also wouldn't doubt Gute was checking into it and had a plan.
Given Dillon and Taylor are in a similar situation, had we engaged in trade talks, have to think Dillon would have been offered back. Indy gets a decent RB they could resign at a far below top of market value. Taylor would be an upgrade for sure there, especially if they think they don’t want Jones beyond this years. Seems like Gute and Lafleur both put a lot of importance on RB, so I could envision a scenario where there could be appealing to them.
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I concur with you. That said, I don’t know that Guty favors obtaining upper tier talent from other teams unless it’s at a moderate price.BF004 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 14:16Welcome! Thanks for trying us out here.musclestang wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 11:16Looking at all the ways Gute has brought players in over the years and worked FA, Cap, Trades, in season and out, etc. I have little doubt he's always looking for ways to improve this roster. personally I think the likelihood of landing someone like Taylor was probably low for a few reasons, mainly money, I also wouldn't doubt Gute was checking into it and had a plan.
Given Dillon and Taylor are in a similar situation, had we engaged in trade talks, have to think Dillon would have been offered back. Indy gets a decent RB they could resign at a far below top of market value. Taylor would be an upgrade for sure there, especially if they think they don’t want Jones beyond this years. Seems like Gute and Lafleur both put a lot of importance on RB, so I could envision a scenario where there could be appealing to them.
I think Taylor is for sure a more dynamic runner than Dillon. But Dillon perfectly fits what GB wants in RB2. Not convinced that Dillon would become RB1 if Jones leaves/retires. Maybe that’s as much reason to kick the tires for RB talent.
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I think of it this way, the cost of WR= rookie contracts, chump change, so now ya have money to spend on another position that can help to sustain drives and score TD's, so imo Taylor wouldn't be replacing anyone, we could even have all 3 on the field 4 or 5 times a game, at least for this year, just spiffingBF004 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 14:16Welcome! Thanks for trying us out here.musclestang wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 11:16Looking at all the ways Gute has brought players in over the years and worked FA, Cap, Trades, in season and out, etc. I have little doubt he's always looking for ways to improve this roster. personally I think the likelihood of landing someone like Taylor was probably low for a few reasons, mainly money, I also wouldn't doubt Gute was checking into it and had a plan.
Given Dillon and Taylor are in a similar situation, had we engaged in trade talks, have to think Dillon would have been offered back. Indy gets a decent RB they could resign at a far below top of market value. Taylor would be an upgrade for sure there, especially if they think they don’t want Jones beyond this years. Seems like Gute and Lafleur both put a lot of importance on RB, so I could envision a scenario where there could be appealing to them.
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I was wondering. At least someone is attempting to pay attention. I agree BTW. Wilson will be fun to root for. I hope he makes alot of plays.Yoop wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 08:01ahhhhh, Wilson, not WilliamsRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 20:15Which Williams are we talking about?Yoop wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023 14:41
smart money, ya can teach a player to hit, tackle and block, vision and patience are born given traits, and Williams has shown a abundance of both, I sort of expected this, same with other ST's players, the ability to play either O or D has to be considered over just the ability to play ST's
I saw a rumor Dillon and a pick were offered, Indy countered wanting that + Watson. Also rumors they wanted Waddle + more from Miami. If true, they are obviously not serious about trading him.BF004 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 14:16Welcome! Thanks for trying us out here.musclestang wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 11:16Looking at all the ways Gute has brought players in over the years and worked FA, Cap, Trades, in season and out, etc. I have little doubt he's always looking for ways to improve this roster. personally I think the likelihood of landing someone like Taylor was probably low for a few reasons, mainly money, I also wouldn't doubt Gute was checking into it and had a plan.
Given Dillon and Taylor are in a similar situation, had we engaged in trade talks, have to think Dillon would have been offered back. Indy gets a decent RB they could resign at a far below top of market value. Taylor would be an upgrade for sure there, especially if they think they don’t want Jones beyond this years. Seems like Gute and Lafleur both put a lot of importance on RB, so I could envision a scenario where there could be appealing to them.
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I saw that not as a rumor but as a guess, but the way the press really hounded Gutey about how the RB room or Dillon specifically might be in their feels about the rumors or not feeling wanted--and given that Dillon and Jones didn't make themselves available in the locker room during press availability today, there's some smoke there.
Nothing I'm super concerned about. They're football players and professionals and they'll go play. But it was an interesting development
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No way they are getting Watson. That is an insult to Gute, nothing more.
As much as I like Taylor as a player, I'd have hated a trade for him. You can't tie up all that money on a position that is relatively easy to replace production-wise. The difference between elite level RB play and adequate/competent play is not so great to justify spending top dollar IMO.
You're absolutely right that cap savings as well as future money having to be paid needs to be considered when talking about dead money.BF004 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023 07:31Dead money doesn’t mean much in a vacuum without knowing the offsetting savings, or about 16.3M I believe. So the opportunity cost of a 2024 move is 3.2M, not very substantial. But then also added benefit of having clean books in 2025 which is harder to quantify.
Either way, I think it’s likely he sticks around too, just making the point that just thinking of the dead money only gives an incomplete pic.
I guess a trade for Taylor would have been made with the idea of replacing Jones as the starter in 2024. He's four years younger after all.APB wrote: ↑31 Aug 2023 03:47As much as I like Taylor as a player, I'd have hated a trade for him. You can't tie up all that money on a position that is relatively easy to replace production-wise. The difference between elite level RB play and adequate/competent play is not so great to justify spending top dollar IMO.
It's telling that both Dillon and Jones didn't show up for media availability after yesterday's practice.