Lions @ Packers GDT: Thursday Sep 28, 7:15pm CST

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Pugger wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:43
Pckfn23 wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:38
Really want to see this All-22. Is no one open or is Love not seeing it?
It's difficult for Love to see anything when he is running for his life.
He's had like 2 or 3 seconds most downs. There is time, at times, just not sure why the ball is not coming out.
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If I weren't a Packer fan, I'd be on board with the Lions. They are doing it right. They get coaches and players who love the game and are willing to lay it all out there. They organize their team well. It's like they hardly need any more motivation. They want to win.

Our guys don't have that. Maybe they will later. But they don't now. Yeah, we are young. And yeah, we will get better. But that involves getting showed up every now and then.
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Man, that Rudy Ford interception seems so long ago…

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Ya'll have a good night. I'm outta here.

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APB wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:44
Man, that Rudy Ford interception seems so long ago…
Wasn't even a good play. It was a gift.
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They should put in Rhyan. Throw him in the fire and see what he does.
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Scott4Pack wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:44
Ya'll have a good night. I'm outta here.

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packers wr's are always open - they have been for years remember.

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Drj820 wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:37
Pugger wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:35
Backthepack4ever wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:31
This is hard to watch. Actually I'm jealous with what Lions have and how they're competing. It's not a talent thing it's a whole identity

I think we are talented. I also think this team doesn't play as one. It starts with Nixon running out kos.
Our youth and inexperience is showing. We are getting dominated by Detroit's lines. Love is running for his life.


There is an excuse every year
You think pointing out we are getting wallopped at the point of attack is an excuse? :lol:

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'Just an unbelievably stupid gameplan on O coming into the game: pass-pass-pass, pass-pass-pass. With an OL that has some weak links, an absolute stud on the other side of the 'line. The run hasn't been good, but that doesn't mean they can just stop running the ball.
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Ultimately in the end MLF will get blamed and probably should. Packers get the ball first in the second half. If we don't move the ball it will definitely be a knock against him warranted or not. SOOOO disappointed after last weeks 4th quarter come back.

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Labrev wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:47
'Just an unbelievably stupid gameplan on O coming into the game: pass-pass-pass, pass-pass-pass. With an OL that has some weak links, an absolute stud on the other side of the 'line. The run hasn't been good, but that doesn't mean they can just stop running the ball.
To be fair, pass blocking had been the strength of this line. I can’t fault MLF for leaning on it early. I CAN fault him for calling long developing routes and not utilizing his best offensive weapon (Jones) in the pass game strategy.

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Pugger wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:31
lulu wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:29
Sean Clifford time?
You think our issue is Love?
No. I don’t want him to get killed.

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Labrev wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:43
People keep saying "well we are a young and inexperienced team so we will have our struggles" and yeah I do think that's part of what we are seeing right now, but that explanation does not quite cut the mustard for me.

What looks like the bigger issue to me is MLF does not (yet) know how to coach/lead this kind of team.
MLF has shown in the past that he doesn’t make good game time adjustments when the O-line is getting overwhelmed. No draw plays or screens. No quick hitters.
Love is the answer…

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Labrev wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:43
People keep saying "well we are a young and inexperienced team so we will have our struggles" and yeah I do think that's part of what we are seeing right now, but that explanation does not quite cut the mustard for me.

What looks like the bigger issue to me is MLF does not (yet) know how to coach/lead this kind of team.
It's such a confusing narrative that the active head coach with the best regular season W-L record in the league (min. 50 games) who has a team that we have ALL said all offseason/early season has such a chemistry, comradery, and positive energy about them--a team that got punched in the mouth and battled back unpredictably just last week, and every time the team looks bad, we say "he can't lead." Like where do you think all that positive energy came from? Just lucky?

He just happened to have Rodgers' best 3-season run of statistical and winning success in Rodgers' career and then he just happened to luck out into a team that cares about each other and has great chemistry and is in it together. What a lucky guy! Not a leader, just luck.


It's his demeanor playing on preconceived biases of how you think head football coaches should comport themselves in public. But there's nothing more behind it.

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Scott4Pack wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:44
If I weren't a Packer fan, I'd be on board with the Lions. They are doing it right. They get coaches and players who love the game and are willing to lay it all out there. They organize their team well. It's like they hardly need any more motivation. They want to win.

Our guys don't have that. Maybe they will later. But they don't now. Yeah, we are young. And yeah, we will get better. But that involves getting showed up every now and then.
I'm not surprised we are struggling. I figured we would have games like this. We have the youngest roster in the league with an inexperienced QB. Love might be getting happy feet but I would too behind that line...

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wallyuwl wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:33
Papa John wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:32
Pugger wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:28


You are complaining about effort? It isn't that. Detroit is just better than us right now.
They are better than us but Packers have played soft. Soft defense in red zone- holes wide open for Detroit to run in easily. The lack of fight is very palpable. This coach just hangs his head and looks like he’s holding back tears.
MLF is a crier for sure.
Even when he wins one he cries.
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APB wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:50
Labrev wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:47
'Just an unbelievably stupid gameplan on O coming into the game: pass-pass-pass, pass-pass-pass. With an OL that has some weak links, an absolute stud on the other side of the 'line. The run hasn't been good, but that doesn't mean they can just stop running the ball.
To be fair, pass blocking had been the strength of this line. I can’t fault MLF for leaning on it early. I CAN fault him for calling long developing routes and not utilizing his best offensive weapon (Jones) in the pass game strategy.
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wallyuwl wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:32
Backthepack4ever wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:31
This is hard to watch. Actually I'm jealous with what Lions have and how they're competing. It's not a talent thing it's a whole identity

I think we are talented. I also think this team doesn't play as one. It starts with Nixon running out kos.
You're putting the team identity on the 2022 1st Team All-Pro KR not taking a knee? :messedup:
Nope I'm not putting it on any one guy. Where did you read that? Try again.

If you think he's not playing selfish football well then I we disagree

Let's not give passes to anyone. The lions don't
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lulu wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:50
Pugger wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:31
lulu wrote:
28 Sep 2023 20:29
Sean Clifford time?
You think our issue is Love?
No. I don’t want him to get killed.
I hear ya.

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