That would require a new QB, new DC, new HC, and possibly new GM and President. So we'll be waiting a while.
Vikings at Packers GDT: Sunday Oct 29th, 12:00pm CST
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I am getting more and more confident by the day.
Packers fans are in the dumps. It's go time.
Packers fans are in the dumps. It's go time.
Nah, QB might still be fine once we get all that other stuff, plus a capable O-line and WR's and TE's that know the right direction to run.
RIP JustJeff
Some of you wouldn't have made it through the 70's as Packer fans.
Some of my notes about the Vikings.
- Vikings have one of the most effective and efficient passing offenses in the league. The are tied with the Dolphins for the most TD passes in the air (16), 2nd in passing yards, 3rd in passer rating. They have thrown 5 int's.
- Their rush offense is &%$@. They are subpar in terms of yardage and YPC, and they haven't even scored a rushing TD yet this year.
- Defensively they look like middle of the pack, at best. Similarly to Denver, they give up a high % of completions (74.6%). In fact, Denver is the only team worse than MIN in this category. Rush defense has not been special.
Jaire's health is going to be important. We need turnovers. The way I see it, if our run defense is ever going to step up, it has to be in this game.
- Vikings have one of the most effective and efficient passing offenses in the league. The are tied with the Dolphins for the most TD passes in the air (16), 2nd in passing yards, 3rd in passer rating. They have thrown 5 int's.
- Their rush offense is &%$@. They are subpar in terms of yardage and YPC, and they haven't even scored a rushing TD yet this year.
- Defensively they look like middle of the pack, at best. Similarly to Denver, they give up a high % of completions (74.6%). In fact, Denver is the only team worse than MIN in this category. Rush defense has not been special.
Jaire's health is going to be important. We need turnovers. The way I see it, if our run defense is ever going to step up, it has to be in this game.
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always the negative Nancy, it's a gray world, often one bad apple ruins the bushel, same with football, one problem can create other problems and so on till the whole show looks worse then it actually is.
yep, if ya focus to much on the bad, you'll fail to recognize the good, or realize that injury has been the root of our problems from game two on.williewasgreat wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 09:53I would agree this after seeing the pessimistic comments by some here.
even with lack of receiver experience, better blocking and being able to run would help over come that.
So you're saying against our rush defense I should still expect 25 carries for 160 yards.
If Mattison starts, he probably will. You shouldn't worry about the Vikings rushing game. If Akers or Chandler get some snaps, it could be a problem.
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I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 22:02The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.
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It was in 1980 at the Met in Bloomington, Minnesota. Here's a write-up: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/11/24 ... 343890000/MY_TAKE wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 02:26I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 22:02The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 07:13It was in 1980 at the Met in Bloomington, Minnesota. Here's a write-up: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/11/24 ... 343890000/MY_TAKE wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 02:26I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 22:02
The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.
but it would have been OK in Timbuktu, too. I think that's south of Milwaukee.
haha, Timbuktu, ya Mali is surely south of Milwaukee, love how Larry expresses himself
was looking back to see if we've had any other duel 100 yard RB's in a single game in history, alas I'am so inept at searching this stuff I finally gave up, maybe Ellis and Ivory are the only two.
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It was a lot tougher to comment back then, but I'm sure those of us alive at the time felt pretty negative. However, we held on, moaning all the way.williewasgreat wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 09:53I would agree this after seeing the pessimistic comments by some here.
I was off a little bit on the year. HAHA. I was 11 years old but a huge Packer fan and my mother bought me a subscription to "The Packer Report" . That picture was on the front of it for that week. It only came weekly durinng the season then it was like maybe every month or something like that in the off season. Thank you for finding this.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 07:13It was in 1980 at the Met in Bloomington, Minnesota. Here's a write-up: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/11/24 ... 343890000/MY_TAKE wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 02:26I am old enough to remember. Believe me. The 80's were a fairly horrific decade also. Although, I do remember Eddie Lee Ivory and Gerry Ellis both rushing for over a 100 yards in a win against the Vikings in the early to mid 80's. I don't remember where it was played but it's a good memory.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 22:02
The 70s and the 80s required amazingly amounts of medication and stamina. I still think Eddie Lee Ivery and Mark Lee were great Packers. The revolving doors of QBs were fruitless.
I'm not betting on Jones and Dillon doing anything like that.
It was a Ray Nitschke Publication. AHHHH the good old days
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My sights this week are on the D-line. KC usually has a field day against the Vikings with pressure up the middle. Exactly what we need to do to slow Cousins down. Hoping Wyatt is healthy and maybe we get some real push up the middle.
Side note: Stenovich said yesterday that Myers is playing the best football of his career this year. What is his PFF ranking and why doesn't it seem that way to the naked eye? His other comments also led me to believe there may be a change on the OL this week. Maybe Walker out for Yosh. Sure hope it's not Newman for Runyan!
Side note: Stenovich said yesterday that Myers is playing the best football of his career this year. What is his PFF ranking and why doesn't it seem that way to the naked eye? His other comments also led me to believe there may be a change on the OL this week. Maybe Walker out for Yosh. Sure hope it's not Newman for Runyan!
Yes, you did. I remember all the bitching from Packer fans in school. My only problem is that my team was never able to get over that damn hump at the end of the year. And I actually think that was worse than what Packer fans had to endure. It still chaps my A**Half Empty wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 08:49It was a lot tougher to comment back then, but I'm sure those of us alive at the time felt pretty negative. However, we held on, moaning all the way.williewasgreat wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023 09:53I would agree this after seeing the pessimistic comments by some here.
common for coaches to stick up for a player, I found thispackman114 wrote: ↑27 Oct 2023 09:02My sights this week are on the D-line. KC usually has a field day against the Vikings with pressure up the middle. Exactly what we need to do to slow Cousins down. Hoping Wyatt is healthy and maybe we get some real push up the middle.
Side note: Stenovich said yesterday that Myers is playing the best football of his career this year. What is his PFF ranking and why doesn't it seem that way to the naked eye? His other comments also led me to believe there may be a change on the OL this week. Maybe Walker out for Yosh. Sure hope it's not Newman for Runyan!
Given the Packers used a second-round pick on Myers in the 2021 draft, one pick before the Chiefs selected now-All-Pro center Creed Humphrey, the Packers were looking for Myers to take a big step forward this season.
However, that has not been realized. Myers is an intelligent player, but his skill development has not progressed at the same pace.
While he didn't allow a pressure in Week 7 against Denver and has been quite solid in that department overall, his run-blocking remains the most significant issue to correct.
Per Pro Football Focus, Myers' 47.5 run-blocking grade drops his overall grade to a below-average 56.3. Last season, he only posted a 53.5 run-blocking grade, and the continued regression has certainly shown up on tape.
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