I'm secure enough not to hide behind anonymity! I believe to build a community we should have some personal connections, not be here to troll and sew chaos.Drj820 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 11:53is there a setting on here where i dont have to look at your profile picture when you post?
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
The current structure of the Packers is that Murphy makes the call on the GM, and the coach is ultimately his call as well but with input from the GM.
its an online forum man, not a sunday school class. anyways, is there a setting ?
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So you see no issues intentionally creating discord simply for the sake of it in a forum that was founded on this:Drj820 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 11:57its an online forum man, not a sunday school class. anyways, is there a setting ?
A good forum has it’s roots in community. The moderating team at PackersNews.net (Packers-huddle.com) is committed to building community. We have gone without written rules all this time by adhering to the unwritten rule of everything goes back to building community.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
oh I do not believe in trolling. egregious behavior. My point was that we are a "community" of packer fans on an online forum. That does not require we all know each others names, social security numbers, jobs, and real photos etc.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 12:25So you see no issues intentionally creating discord simply for the sake of it in a forum that was founded on this:A good forum has it’s roots in community. The moderating team at PackersNews.net (Packers-huddle.com) is committed to building community. We have gone without written rules all this time by adhering to the unwritten rule of everything goes back to building community.
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And yet it is something that you admittedly have no problem with...Drj820 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 12:32oh I do not believe in trolling. egregious behavior. My point was that we are a "community" of packer fans on an online forum. That does not require we all know each others names, social security numbers, jobs, and real photos etc.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 12:25So you see no issues intentionally creating discord simply for the sake of it in a forum that was founded on this:A good forum has it’s roots in community. The moderating team at PackersNews.net (Packers-huddle.com) is committed to building community. We have gone without written rules all this time by adhering to the unwritten rule of everything goes back to building community.
It's no coincidence that an entire group on this forum hides behind anonymity. Anonymity is something some hide behind to not take ownership of their actions.Drj820 wrote: because trolling is fun
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I really can't believe this conversation is happening. But if anyone doesn't want to see Pckfn's or anyone else's face. 
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good point. 95% of the forum is anonymous because this is the internet and an online forum. Its kind of par for the course.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 12:45And yet it is something that you admittedly have no problem with...It's no coincidence that an entire group on this forum hides behind anonymity.Drj820 wrote: because trolling is fun
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Me too. It's MLF. He really should look into bagging groceries.williewasgreat wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 10:38This is how I voted as well. Too many of the same mistakes keep happening, which points directly at the coaching.
MLF has been outcoached every game this year except for two.
Those exceptions were Week 1 against Eberflus, who is not a legitimate head coach (will for-sure be fired and not given a second chance at HC) and an at-best stalemate in Week 3 against Dennis Allen, getting very lucky that NO missed the field-goal.
Only two of the coaches that bested him are actually good. The others are two bad coaches and one new guy.
Those exceptions were Week 1 against Eberflus, who is not a legitimate head coach (will for-sure be fired and not given a second chance at HC) and an at-best stalemate in Week 3 against Dennis Allen, getting very lucky that NO missed the field-goal.
Only two of the coaches that bested him are actually good. The others are two bad coaches and one new guy.
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Love is not going to be a starting qb in this league and both gute and mlf will need to go because of it.
But he already is starting.
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Yes, it's called leaving the forum.Drj820 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2023 11:53is there a setting on here where i dont have to look at your profile picture when you post?
Got him
I voted for BG because that is consistent with the argument I have been making on multiple threads, that we went all-in (or 90% all-in) the past couple of years to try to win one last title with Rodgers, and all of the cap hell had to come due sometime so they decided they'd put everything on this year (including giving Love and other components of the roster an extended trial). So to the extent that our current state is not great, I think it is predominantly due to the wilful choices of the front office, who knew that this was a possibility (and probably a likelihood) for the first post-Rodgers year.
That being said, if I am looking to blame anyone for doing worse than they should (because I don't think BG deserves much blame for 2023 despite being the primary architect; we all would have made largely the same decision), I am blaming MLF because I do think that the offense should be better than it is. But I only blame him a little bit, because the offense is very young and inexperienced, and some of these growing pains are to be expected. We're separating the wheat from the chaff this year. But I would have had higher expectations even with the current players.
That being said, if I am looking to blame anyone for doing worse than they should (because I don't think BG deserves much blame for 2023 despite being the primary architect; we all would have made largely the same decision), I am blaming MLF because I do think that the offense should be better than it is. But I only blame him a little bit, because the offense is very young and inexperienced, and some of these growing pains are to be expected. We're separating the wheat from the chaff this year. But I would have had higher expectations even with the current players.
MLF. Regardless of the level of talent, we should be seeing improvement. If the players are all 6th tier the coach should still be able to improve them to 5th tier. Who on this team is playing better than last year?
Also, 9 points in the first halves of the last 5 games. Not 9 points average, but 9 points total. That is pitiful. If the entire team (at least the entire offence) is going out unprepared to play, that's got to be the coach. (And the defence has given up 73 points in the first halves of those games, 38 in the second halves. They aren't covered in first half glory by any means.)
Also, 9 points in the first halves of the last 5 games. Not 9 points average, but 9 points total. That is pitiful. If the entire team (at least the entire offence) is going out unprepared to play, that's got to be the coach. (And the defence has given up 73 points in the first halves of those games, 38 in the second halves. They aren't covered in first half glory by any means.)