Jordan Love 2023 Expectation/Player Comparison

[MY_TAKE]

Love threw a ball 53 yards in the air on the first play today.

18 to the 22, so he did what was claimed he could never do, throw it 60 yards!

Oh that's true!! I just assumed from the 25 to 22 because the 25 was the LOS

Ok, Let me go check the film before I get into this 3 hour lunatic debate

[MY_TAKE]

YUP!! 60 yards

[YoHoChecko]

what the heck even is this throw??

[go pak go]

what the heck even is this throw??

Matthew Stafford side arm speccial!!!

[BF004]

[Trudge]

Thankfully we don't have to do that. We have the 5th year option, no? Put it off till next year.

[MY_TAKE]

I am assuming that most NFL players play football because they are good at it. They are world class athletes with a competitive fire and nature. They want to be great and win .
Jordon Love already has earned some real nice cash but you can't tell me it doesn't enter his mind, and other professional athletes minds about a big, life altering payday.

If he lights it up the rest of the year in general, that 50+ million/year payday is coming real fast. If he doesn't, we will have to wait and see the outcome. There is certainly alot of incentive to be really good other than just competitive nature.

I know I would do all I could in my career if I had an opportunity to go from say 100k to 7 figures. Its life changing.

This post is just packer talk. Nothing more.

[go pak go]

that is absolutely disgusting.

[texas]

I am surprised (and dubious, I guess) that Love's and Rodgers' numbers are similar.

Love looks significantly worse than Rodgers did at this point, via the eye test. He's a different QB entirely. I think we can get away with not making him the 4th highest paid QB.

[go pak go]

When going back on the "eye test" in 2008, I think hindsight and legend really skew people's perception of Rodgers in 2008.

Yes he was decent for a first year starter and had reason to hope he "could be our guy" but I think people remember Rodgers being incredible in 2008 and the only reason we lost 10 games was because of our defense which isn't entirely true at all. Rodgers had his ups and downs. Here is a snippet of Rodgers first 11 games in 2008

The only game Rodgers played well enough to win but still didn't was the loss to Matt Ryan and Roddy White at Lambeau Field.

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[go pak go]

My point of the above post is not to down Rodgers.

*sit down Rodgers booty lickers*

My point is to level set expectations with Love. He is doing more than okay for this year.

[Cdragon]

My point of the above post is not to down Rodgers.

*sit down Rodgers booty lickers*

My point is to level set expectations with Love. He is doing more than okay for this year.

Nothing about boot licking. AR had 10 games above 100 in rating 08. Favre in 07 had 10 games above a 100 rating. The both had two games in the 80's which is close to an average QB in those days. Defense was the main reason we failed in 08.

Love is showing himself to be a solid NFL QB. He is looking better every week. The future is bright.

[Crazylegs Starks]

2023 Love vs. 2008 Rodgers, through 11 games:

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/gameday/ ... rs-in-2008

Jordan Love Through Game 11
Week 1, at Chicago (win): 15-of-27 passing, 245 yards, three touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 123.2 rating.
Week 2, at Atlanta (loss): 14-of-25 passing, 151 yards, three touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 113.5 rating.
Week 3, New Orleans (win): 22-of-44 passing, 259 yards, one touchdown vs. one interception, 66.4 rating.
Week 4, Detroit (loss): 23-of-36 passing, 246 yards, one touchdown vs. two interceptions, 69.9 rating.
Week 5, Las Vegas (loss): 16-of-30 passing, 182 yards, zero touchdowns vs. three interceptions, 32.2 rating.
Week 6, bye.
Week 7, Denver (loss): 21-of-31 passing, 180 yards, two touchdowns vs. one interception, 90.8 rating.
Week 8, Minnesota (loss): 24-of-41 passing, 229 yards, one touchdown vs. one interception, 72.1 rating.
Week 9, L.A. Rams (win): 20-of-26 passing, 228 yards, one touchdown vs. zero interceptions, 115.5 rating.
Week 10, Pittsburgh (loss): 21-of-40 passing, 289 yards, two touchdowns vs. two interceptions, 71.8 rating.
Week 11, L.A. Chargers (win): 27-of-40 passing, 322 yards, two touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 108.5 rating.
Week 12, Detroit (win): 22-of-32 passing, 268 yards, three touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 125.5 rating.
Total: 225-of-372 passing (60.5 percent), 2,599 yards, 19 touchdowns vs. 10 interceptions, 87.4 rating.

Aaron Rodgers Through Game 11
Week 1, Minnesota (win): 18-of-22 passing, 178 yards, one touchdown vs. zero interceptions, 115.5 rating.
Week 2, at Detroit (win): 24-of-38 passing, 328 yards, three touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 117.0 rating.
Week 3, Dallas (loss): 22-of-39 passing, 290 yards, zero touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 80.1 rating.
Week 4, Tampa Bay (loss): 14-of-27 passing, 165 yards, two touchdowns vs. three interceptions, 55.9 rating.
Week 5, Atlanta (loss): 25-of-37 passing, 313 yards, three touchdowns vs. one interception, 109.4 rating.
Week 6, Seattle (win): 21-of-30 passing, 208 yards, two touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 111.5 rating.
Week 7, Indianapolis (win): 21-of-28 passing, 186 yards, one touchdown vs. zero interceptions, 104.2 rating.
Week 8: Bye
Week 9, Tennessee (loss): 22-of-41 passing, 314 yards, one touchdown vs. one interception, 76.7 rating.
Week 10, Minnesota (loss): 15-of-26 passing for 142 yards, zero touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 72.9 rating.
Week 11, Chicago (win): 23-of-30 passing, 227 yards, two touchdowns vs. one interception, 105.8 rating.
Week 12, New Orleans (loss): 23-of-41 passing, 248 yards, two touchdowns vs. three interceptions, 59.8 rating.
Total: 228-of-359 passing (63.5 percent), 2,599 yards, 17 touchdowns vs. 9 interceptions, 90.5 rating.

[texas]

When going back on the "eye test" in 2008, I think hindsight and legend really skew people's perception of Rodgers in 2008.

Yes he was decent for a first year starter and had reason to hope he "could be our guy" but I think people remember Rodgers being incredible in 2008 and the only reason we lost 10 games was because of our defense which isn't entirely true at all. Rodgers had his ups and downs. Here is a snippet of Rodgers first 11 games in 2008

The only game Rodgers played well enough to win but still didn't was the loss to Matt Ryan and Roddy White at Lambeau Field.

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Maybe the perception of some people is skewed, but not for me. I specifically remember repeatedly making the argument going into 2009, to multiple people, that Rodgers was actually great and it was our defense that let us down. He wasn't what he became but even without the hindsight rose-colored glasses, my opinion of him at the time was that we had a superstar in the making. I don't feel that way about Love yet.

I think I probably think more highly of Love than the average person here, yet I don't think he's Rodgers and I don't think he needs to be. If he just plays within the system MLF sets up for him he might even outperform Rodgers, but in my opinion he won't be as elite as Rodgers.

[MY_TAKE]

My point of the above post is not to down Rodgers.

*sit down Rodgers booty lickers*

My point is to level set expectations with Love. He is doing more than okay for this year.

Good stats by the way. For me I think what got me excited about Rodgers was some of the plays he made early in his career that made me go WOW! He seemed very early to have a knack for incredible deep ball accuracy. Not sure if it was 2008 or a year later but when I recognized this. He went on to be one of the best deep ball throwers EVER!!! I won't back down from that. Love overall is improving all the time it seems and I am satisfied with his progression. Things are definitely looking up for him.

[dsr]

Maybe the perception of some people is skewed, but not for me. I specifically remember repeatedly making the argument going into 2009, to multiple people, that Rodgers was actually great and it was our defense that let us down. He wasn't what he became but even without the hindsight rose-colored glasses, my opinion of him at the time was that we had a superstar in the making. I don't feel that way about Love yet.

I think I probably think more highly of Love than the average person here, yet I don't think he's Rodgers and I don't think he needs to be. If he just plays within the system MLF sets up for him he might even outperform Rodgers, but in my opinion he won't be as elite as Rodgers.

The thing about Rodgers that year was how often he managed the late drive that could have won or tied the game but didn't. Either a missed field goal, or more often the defence giving up points immediately afterwards, cost us (from memory) potential 6 more wins.

Though one thing about the original premise of this thread - which other QB can we compare him to - if we have reached the stage of being in the same conversation as Rodgers, then he's doing pretty darn good. We all need to remember that "not as good as Rodgers" does not disqualify a man from being a good NFL quarterback!

[APB]

Though one thing about the original premise of this thread - which other QB can we compare him to - if we have reached the stage of being in the same conversation as Rodgers, then he's doing pretty darn good. We all need to remember that "not as good as Rodgers" does not disqualify a man from being a good NFL quarterback!

[Acrobat]

dsr, to your point, I had mentioned this to a buddy before the season started that following Rodgers is actually MORE difficult than following Favre, not only because Rodgers had a TD/INT ratio that was out of this world compared to history, but now we've had 30 years of HOF QB's, which would make the come down from that even steeper.

[Pckfn23]

[musclestang]

dsr, to your point, I had mentioned this to a buddy before the season started that following Rodgers is actually MORE difficult than following Favre, not only because Rodgers had a TD/INT ratio that was out of this world compared to history, but now we've had 30 years of HOF QB's, which would make the come down from that even steeper.

I'm not going to argue that the come down could be steeper, but I don't think it's been more difficult. The overall feel thru all of this to me, has been much different than when Rodgers took over. Generally speaking there was a lot of animosity by half the fan base towards Rodgers when he replaced Favre and Favre un-retired. I think there were even protests so to speak at training camp. Lots of hate towards the new guy.

When Love was taking over I got a sense that even with most of the most loyal Rodgers fans, they knew it was time for things to happen. Might not like it, but can accept it, and it makes sense. Sure Rodgers had set an almost unattainable bar for performance for whoever would follow, but overall I think the situation was much more calm and to me, less stressful for Love to step in.

If I were the new guy, I'd take this transition vs the prior one.