Week 15 Post-Game: Bucs-34 Packers-20

[go pak go]

My least favorite record is 9-8.

Son of a b*tch we might end up being my least favorite record

[wallyuwl]

My least favorite record is 9-8.

Son of a b*tch we might end up being my least favorite record

No way. MAYBE they win next week. Queens and Bares are Ls.

[paco]

Not really up for reading another argument of who sucks worse, and who's at fault.

It wasn't good. Offense was better than last week. ST wasnt as bad. Defense was the same outside of a few plays.

[wallyuwl]

I am back to just tank for the draft pick. Need a LT. The only difference is that I think Love can be at least an average starter and probably better. He has come a long way. Needs to be more consistent with footwork and deep accuracy. Also learn better the type of throw (bullet, lofty, etc) needed in certain situations. But the more he plays the better he gets. Definitely not a $40 million guy, though, not yet.

[paco]

[jglovia]

I'm fine with how Love played. Until they got down 14 he looked pretty damn good. Also need to pay attention to who is left by the end! No wicks no reed where did doubs go today? I still think Love can be good but wouldn't pay top qb money just yet.
Hoping some of these injuries don't linger but gave wicks a chance to shine (until he got hurt) and reed continues to impress. If someone could remind doubs he's supposed to be #1 they could still look good.
I see wins over Carolina and the bears. Vikings I just don't see it with this d unless they remember how they made the lions and chiefs look

[lupedafiasco]

Bad performance. Playoffs are out of the question. This team is gonna get eliminated by the Bears of the Panthers don’t do it next week or the Vikings after that.

[Pugger]

I'm fine with how Love played. Until they got down 14 he looked pretty damn good. Also need to pay attention to who is left by the end! No wicks no reed where did doubs go today? I still think Love can be good but wouldn't pay top qb money just yet.
Hoping some of these injuries don't linger but gave wicks a chance to shine (until he got hurt) and reed continues to impress. If someone could remind doubs he's supposed to be #1 they could still look good.
I see wins over Carolina and the bears. Vikings I just don't see it with this d unless they remember how they made the lions and chiefs look

What happened to Wicks?

For me it is inexcusable to allow a goofball like Mayfield to look like an All-Pro. My fear is Numbnuts LaFleur will not can Barry any time soon.

[texas]

Love wasn't elite, but he was definitely good enough. Defense the problem for the 2nd game in a row.

I am officially okay with firing Barry now, although I will say that I don't think we are as talented on defense as people say we are. But this was 2 stinkers in a row, at a key point in our season, from a unit that really shouldn't have any excuses.

[Pugger]

I am back to just tank for the draft pick. Need a LT. The only difference is that I think Love can be at least an average starter and probably better. He has come a long way. Needs to be more consistent with footwork and deep accuracy. Also learn better the type of throw (bullet, lofty, etc) needed in certain situations. But the more he plays the better he gets. Definitely not a $40 million guy, though, not yet.

I don't know about tanking but these kids are not playoff ready yet.

[go pak go]

2023 is now becoming very reminiscent of 2008 with these December losses.

[go pak go]

Bad performance. Playoffs are out of the question. This team is gonna get eliminated by the Bears of the Panthers don’t do it next week or the Vikings after that.

A lot of words to simply say one more loss knocks us out of the playoffs

[Pugger]

Love wasn't elite, but he was definitely good enough. Defense the problem for the 2nd game in a row.

I am officially okay with firing Barry now, although I will say that I don't think we are as talented on defense as people say we are. But this was 2 stinkers in a row, at a key point in our season, from a unit that really shouldn't have any excuses.

Barry's problem is he doesn't put his players in a position to be successful. I watched clips of other games today on Red Zone and even the lousiest teams' defenses don't look like ours. They are aggressive and get after people.

[Pugger]

2023 is now becoming very reminiscent of 2008 with these December losses.

Let's hope 2024 is a repeat of 2009.

[YoHoChecko]

Yeah the defense is the same every week. It allows long drives based on underneath passing. The scheme is soft and predictable. The players don’t fit the scheme (for instance the secondary is athletic and twitchy more than physical with great feel/football IQ).

The formula to beat us is short passes and don’t make mistakes. Even when we had “Good” results it was Because possessions were limited.

We rarely force punts. We rarely get turnovers. And other than that they just score. We allow an insanely high percentage of opposing possessions to be scoring drives. Insanely high.

It has to change. Either we need to bring in elite zone and tackling players throughout the secondary, or we need to fire the coordinator.

We had five sacks today. Our secondary players are super athletic. There are things to work with here. But the combination of the players we have and the scheme we run is completely broken and constantly beatable. The formula is simple to understand and to execute; dump offs, short passes, YAC, prosper.

[lupedafiasco]

Bad performance. Playoffs are out of the question. This team is gonna get eliminated by the Bears of the Panthers don’t do it next week or the Vikings after that.

A lot of words to simply say one more loss knocks us out of the playoffs

No I was saying this team WILL lose one more game. Not a matter of if or who.

[MY_TAKE]

I am back to just tank for the draft pick. Need a LT. The only difference is that I think Love can be at least an average starter and probably better. He has come a long way. Needs to be more consistent with footwork and deep accuracy. Also learn better the type of throw (bullet, lofty, etc) needed in certain situations. But the more he plays the better he gets. Definitely not a $40 million guy, though, not yet.

Many of the same thoughts I have had. To me, the worst defensive performance of the year. It was kind of like first half of the first lions game. Defense not able to make the play to get off the field.
Not giving up on Love or anything but he can definitely improve. Here is take I have about him and yes, O line is part of the problem, but not completely.

He has a tendency to start drifting straight back in the pocket with slower developing plays/ maybe deeper routes, which leads to weak, craps throws off balance, off back foot. Sometimes he has gotten away with it but, to me, its going to be a big problem until he starts trying to stand his ground and step up in pocket to throw, or, sneak through pressure to run or drift more lateral. Like I said, and I understand that O line needs to be better, but its something for him to work on.

[go pak go]

Bad performance. Playoffs are out of the question. This team is gonna get eliminated by the Bears of the Panthers don’t do it next week or the Vikings after that.

A lot of words to simply say one more loss knocks us out of the playoffs

No I was saying this team WILL lose one more game. Not a matter of if or who.

Pretty sure a month ago you said we would be 3-9 too.

I won't be shocked if we win 3 straight or drop 2 of 3.

[Drj820]

I knew baker was gonna nickel and dime the heck out of our zone. The way to stop baker is to blitz the heck out of him. Rattle the little guy and he gets irratic.

Pretty much the opposite of out play style

[Pckfn23]

Pretty sure a month ago you said we would be 3-9 too.

I won't be shocked if we win 3 straight or drop 2 of 3.

Bears were up 17-7 going into the 4th:

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