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He took the HC position at his college Citadel, can you guess his first record? I'll give you a hint...
Yeah but that's not Barry's fault.
We all know the issues of STs and Offense erasing quite possibly the most dominating playoff game in Packers history.
I'd have to go back and watch it.
As for Barry...man, I just don't know. I think the Ghost of Pettine may have been alive yet. Our cornerbacks and ILBs seem to have made there positions very clear. Between Campbell, Walker and Smith guarding the WRs or CBs playing 8-10 yards off on 4th and 3 it hasn't looked good.
Alright we are not syncing with our communication.
We both agree Barry needs to go. I full heartedly agree with that.
I was doing a simple reponse to your question of asking if Barry had done anything in the league as only pointing out his other stints as a 0-16 Lions D Coordinator.
I simply tried to be fair to Barry by explaining his 2021 season was actually good and his 2021 postseason was down right incredible and he should get credit for that. Doesn't mean I want him. I was just being fair that his 2021 postseason performance was incredible. Because it was incredible and it's too bad the STs and offense didn't allow him to have his legacy lore cemented in GB history due to the loss.
We all know the issues of STs and Offense erasing quite possibly the most dominating playoff game in Packers history.
I'd have to go back and watch it.
As for Barry...man, I just don't know. I think the Ghost of Pettine may have been alive yet. Our cornerbacks and ILBs seem to have made there positions very clear. Between Campbell, Walker and Smith guarding the WRs or CBs playing 8-10 yards off on 4th and 3 it hasn't looked good.
Alright we are not syncing with our communication.
We both agree Barry needs to go. I full heartedly agree with that.
I was doing a simple reponse to your question of asking if Barry had done anything in the league as only pointing out his other stints as a 0-16 Lions D Coordinator.
I simply tried to be fair to Barry by explaining his 2021 season was actually good and his 2021 postseason was down right incredible and he should get credit for that. Doesn't mean I want him. I was just being fair that his 2021 postseason performance was incredible. Because it was incredible and it's too bad the STs and offense didn't allow him to have his legacy lore cemented in GB history due to the loss.
I know, Barry's 2021 addition of his defense has exceeded everything ever since then, again how does a pass rush group go from 33 total pressures against Detroit and arguably a very good OL, to averaging about 8 total pressures a game the rest of the season, imho that is a situational phenomenon, the only way that happens to me is that players are taking plays off, not giving a 100% shedding blocks, sure there are tons of un called holding involved, sure Barry and Montgomery use some ridiculous pre snap alignments, but 33 pressures in one game to such a drastic decline takes premeditated thought to accomplish, so weird
there is no way for me to wrap my brain around that sorta decline
As for Barry...man, I just don't know. I think the Ghost of Pettine may have been alive yet. Our cornerbacks and ILBs seem to have made there positions very clear. Between Campbell, Walker and Smith guarding the WRs or CBs playing 8-10 yards off on 4th and 3 it hasn't looked good.
Alright we are not syncing with our communication.
We both agree Barry needs to go. I full heartedly agree with that.
I was doing a simple reponse to your question of asking if Barry had done anything in the league as only pointing out his other stints as a 0-16 Lions D Coordinator.
I simply tried to be fair to Barry by explaining his 2021 season was actually good and his 2021 postseason was down right incredible and he should get credit for that. Doesn't mean I want him. I was just being fair that his 2021 postseason performance was incredible. Because it was incredible and it's too bad the STs and offense didn't allow him to have his legacy lore cemented in GB history due to the loss.
I know, Barry's 2021 addition of his defense has exceeded everything ever since then, again how does a pass rush group go from 33 total pressures against Detroit and arguably a very good OL, to averaging about 8 total pressures a game the rest of the season, imho that is a situational phenomenon, the only way that happens to me is that players are taking plays off, not giving a 100% shedding blocks, sure there are tons of un called holding involved, sure Barry and Montgomery use some ridiculous pre snap alignments, but 33 pressures in one game to such a drastic decline takes premeditated thought to accomplish, so weird
there is no way for me to wrap my brain around that sorta decline
My primary guess is you are comparing stats that shouldn't be compared. In esscencse, you are doing apple to oranges analysis. 33 pressures to 8 pressures is pretty drastic. I can't comment on the Bucs game but I am very, very sure we did more than 8 pressures vs both NYG and CAR based on the eye test and quick stat memory.
I was doing a simple reponse to your question of asking if Barry had done anything in the league as only pointing out his other stints as a 0-16 Lions D Coordinator
He has. Redskins he spent 2 seasons before being fired. Jaguars he spent nearly the whole day before being let go to take the same job at USC. His second stint with the Bucs didn't go as planned and he was let go after 2 seasons. So yeah, quite a few stints in all the wrong places.
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I'd look for somebody that already has a connection to MLF for our next DC. MLF wants loyalty. Who is out there that is NOT a retread and IS known by MLF? That's where we need to look.
I'm not against a guy like Zimmer who has loads of experience. The only thing about that is we've gone that way and found guys who probably weren't as motivated to disguise their concepts and such. I was somebody who has a lot to prove and wants to!
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My primary guess is you are comparing stats that shouldn't be compared. In esscencse, you are doing apple to oranges analysis. 33 pressures to 8 pressures is pretty drastic. I can't comment on the Bucs game but I am very, very sure we did more than 8 pressures vs both NYG and CAR based on the eye test and quick stat memory.
your right, PFF as I said are gracious with there grades, actually our over all pressures are close to the Ravens, the biggest difference is there better in coverage and stopping the run according from these PFR grades.
PFF gave us 36 pressures against the Bears to start the season, and next best out put was this last game against the Lions at 33 I don't feel like paying PFF to know what they tabulated for each game, PFR has us at 8 pressures a game, one service seems high, the other lower then meets the eye test.
My primary guess is you are comparing stats that shouldn't be compared. In esscencse, you are doing apple to oranges analysis. 33 pressures to 8 pressures is pretty drastic. I can't comment on the Bucs game but I am very, very sure we did more than 8 pressures vs both NYG and CAR based on the eye test and quick stat memory.
your right, PFF as I said are gracious with there grades, actually our over all pressures are close to the Ravens, the biggest difference is there better in coverage and stopping the run according from these PFR grades.
PFF gave us 36 pressures against the Bears to start the season, and next best out put was this last game against the Lions at 33 I don't feel like paying PFF to know what they tabulated for each game, PFR has us at 8 pressures a game, one service seems high, the other lower then meets the eye test.
Yeah we don't need to get into the whole PFF vs PFR thing again.
But what you stated confirms it. You are comparing apples to oranges. You cannot compare one game (the Lions) using PFF and the subsequent games to PFR.
I also might guess that PFR is doing Pressure Plays whereas PFF is doing total pressures. Like one play might have awarded 3 pressures because Smith, Gary and Clark got a pressure vs Detroit whereas the PFR "8 average" is counting one play as One.
So I don't think what you're has any real substance.
