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[Pckfn23]

I wish the Packers would adopt a policy similar to this.

Holy sh*t.

That's not real is it? It can't be real.

I hope it is and the Packers follow suit.

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I see nothing else to substantiate this, but even so, there's the caveat of their "Terms and Conditions". What is said there, and what does one acknowledge when signing up for Packer season tickets?

[Madcity_matt]

I see nothing else to substantiate this, but even so, there's the caveat of their "Terms and Conditions". What is said there, and what does one acknowledge when signing up for Packer season tickets?

I assume the "terms and conditions" accompany the tickets each year, so can be changed on a year to year basis. I'm sure there's software that can determine how often certain seats are available on the second hand market?

[NCF]

I see nothing else to substantiate this, but even so, there's the caveat of their "Terms and Conditions". What is said there, and what does one acknowledge when signing up for Packer season tickets?

I assume the "terms and conditions" accompany the tickets each year, so can be changed on a year to year basis. I'm sure there's software that can determine how often certain seats are available on the second hand market?

It's not real.

[APB]

I see nothing else to substantiate this, but even so, there's the caveat of their "Terms and Conditions". What is said there, and what does one acknowledge when signing up for Packer season tickets?

I assume the "terms and conditions" accompany the tickets each year, so can be changed on a year to year basis. I'm sure there's software that can determine how often certain seats are available on the second hand market?

It's not real.

Don't know if it's real or not but the statement accompanying my OP still stands.

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I assume the "terms and conditions" accompany the tickets each year, so can be changed on a year to year basis. I'm sure there's software that can determine how often certain seats are available on the second hand market?

It's not real.

Don't know if it's real or not but the statement accompanying my OP still stands.

Understandable, but is it/would it be legal? That's the reason I addressed the terms and conditions.

[Pckfn23]

It's not real.

Don't know if it's real or not but the statement accompanying my OP still stands.

Understandable, but is it/would it be legal? That's the reason I addressed the terms and conditions.

100% it could be if in the terms and conditions. You can lose season tickets if you sell them and the person you sold them to gets kicked out.

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and Lambeau could end up relying on single ticket buyers once that happens, I bet half the ticket holders sell a couple games off to supplement there cost of season tickets every season, ya gonna take away there rights.

this &%$@ wont ever happen, figures there would be a few here willing to strip away a fans rights, and they'd be fans who've never owned season tickets

[Pckfn23]

Rights...

APB and I are not talking about 1 or 2 games to offset the cost.

Of course we have never owned season tickets and are waiting. "Fans" who mostly use their tickets as a revenue stream should lose them.

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Rights...

APB and I are not talking about 1 or 2 games to offset the cost.

If course we have never owned season tickets and are waiting. "Fans" who mostly use their tickets as a revenue stream should lose them.

what makes you even think thats true? your basing that comment on what? even so it would be so hard to prove. your blowing this way out of proportion

season tickets between the 20's are 165.00 X 9 is 2,450 bucks, thats a lot of money for a working stiff, and since no one buys just one ticket it's at least double that, triple, or even 4 times that, I have zero issue with that fan selling a couple games or even half of them. not everyone makes a 100K a year.

what about our fans who like to tag along to watch us play, who can't get tickets except from a opposing ticket holder trying to recoup his coast?

no one wants to see a bunch of opposing fans, but this isn't the way to fix it.

[Pckfn23]

Rights...

APB and I are not talking about 1 or 2 games to offset the cost.

If course we have never owned season tickets and are waiting. "Fans" who mostly use their tickets as a revenue stream should lose them.

what makes you even think thats true? your basing that comment on what? even so it would be so hard to prove. your blowing this way out of proportion

season tickets between the 20's are 165.00 X 9 is 2,450 bucks, thats a lot of money for a working stiff, and since no one buys just one ticket it's at least double that, triple, or even 4 times that, I have zero issue with that fan selling a couple games or even half of them. not everyone makes a 100K a year.

what about our fans who like to tag along to watch us play, who can't get tickets except from a opposing ticket holder trying to recoup his coast?

no one wants to see a bunch of opposing fans, but this isn't the way to fix it.

I know for a fact that there are season ticket holders that NEVER go to games and only sell their tickets. It doesn't matter if it is 1 holder or 100, it should not be allowed. They shouldn't even be allowed selling 4 or 5 games.

If it is too much money to own season tickets, don't purchase season tickets. Let someone else do it. Simple.

Again... WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SELLING 1 OR 2 GAMES TO HELP OFFSET THE COST. That is where opposing fans or other fans can get them.

With tickets going digital it would be easy to see who is selling them off now.

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Rights...

APB and I are not talking about 1 or 2 games to offset the cost.

If course we have never owned season tickets and are waiting. "Fans" who mostly use their tickets as a revenue stream should lose them.

what makes you even think thats true? your basing that comment on what? even so it would be so hard to prove. your blowing this way out of proportion

season tickets between the 20's are 165.00 X 9 is 2,450 bucks, thats a lot of money for a working stiff, and since no one buys just one ticket it's at least double that, triple, or even 4 times that, I have zero issue with that fan selling a couple games or even half of them. not everyone makes a 100K a year.

I know for a fact that there are season ticket holders that NEVER go to games and only sell their tickets. It doesn't matter if it is 1 holder or 100, it should not be allowed. They shouldn't even be allowed selling 4 or 5 games.

If it is too much money to own season tickets, don't purchase season tickets. Let someone else do it. Simple.

Again... WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SELLING 1 OR 2 GAMES TO HELP OFFSET THE COST.

I doubt you know many like that, I don't know any, and I can here you just fine, AGAIN YOUR BLOWING THIS OUT OF PROPORTION.

and how do you suppose to stop it? also could be some fans have a hardship year, and have to sell there tickets that particular season, and now ya want to strip them of there rights to own those tickets,

I don't care if they can tell who's selling them, just try getting it toi work in a court of law, it's never going to happen

[APB]

Rights...

APB and I are not talking about 1 or 2 games to offset the cost.

If course we have never owned season tickets and are waiting. "Fans" who mostly use their tickets as a revenue stream should lose them.

what makes you even think thats true? your basing that comment on what? even so it would be so hard to prove. your blowing this way out of proportion

season tickets between the 20's are 165.00 X 9 is 2,450 bucks, thats a lot of money for a working stiff, and since no one buys just one ticket it's at least double that, triple, or even 4 times that, I have zero issue with that fan selling a couple games or even half of them. not everyone makes a 100K a year.

what about our fans who like to tag along to watch us play, who can't get tickets except from a opposing ticket holder trying to recoup his coast?

no one wants to see a bunch of opposing fans, but this isn't the way to fix it.

The fact the waiting list is decades long invalidates this entire argument.

Also, as [mention]Pckfn23[/mention] mentioned, nobody is saying the occasional sale to help offset cost is an issue. It's the habitual seller who only keeps the tickets to gouge would-be-once-a-year game watchers like me that need to be policed up.

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Rights...

APB and I are not talking about 1 or 2 games to offset the cost.

If course we have never owned season tickets and are waiting. "Fans" who mostly use their tickets as a revenue stream should lose them.

what makes you even think thats true? your basing that comment on what? even so it would be so hard to prove. your blowing this way out of proportion

season tickets between the 20's are 165.00 X 9 is 2,450 bucks, thats a lot of money for a working stiff, and since no one buys just one ticket it's at least double that, triple, or even 4 times that, I have zero issue with that fan selling a couple games or even half of them. not everyone makes a 100K a year.

what about our fans who like to tag along to watch us play, who can't get tickets except from a opposing ticket holder trying to recoup his coast?

no one wants to see a bunch of opposing fans, but this isn't the way to fix it.

The fact the waiting list is decades long invalidates this entire argument.

that list could be a 100 years long, it wont happen, no judge would go along with your proposal

[APB]

what makes you even think thats true? your basing that comment on what? even so it would be so hard to prove. your blowing this way out of proportion

season tickets between the 20's are 165.00 X 9 is 2,450 bucks, thats a lot of money for a working stiff, and since no one buys just one ticket it's at least double that, triple, or even 4 times that, I have zero issue with that fan selling a couple games or even half of them. not everyone makes a 100K a year.

what about our fans who like to tag along to watch us play, who can't get tickets except from a opposing ticket holder trying to recoup his coast?

no one wants to see a bunch of opposing fans, but this isn't the way to fix it.

The fact the waiting list is decades long invalidates this entire argument.

that list could be a 100 years long, it wont happen, no judge would go along with your proposal

Would never reach a judge if terms of service were violated.

[Pckfn23]

what makes you even think thats true? your basing that comment on what? even so it would be so hard to prove. your blowing this way out of proportion

season tickets between the 20's are 165.00 X 9 is 2,450 bucks, thats a lot of money for a working stiff, and since no one buys just one ticket it's at least double that, triple, or even 4 times that, I have zero issue with that fan selling a couple games or even half of them. not everyone makes a 100K a year.

I know for a fact that there are season ticket holders that NEVER go to games and only sell their tickets. It doesn't matter if it is 1 holder or 100, it should not be allowed. They shouldn't even be allowed selling 4 or 5 games.

If it is too much money to own season tickets, don't purchase season tickets. Let someone else do it. Simple.

Again... WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SELLING 1 OR 2 GAMES TO HELP OFFSET THE COST.

I doubt you know many like that, I don't know any, and I can here you just fine, AGAIN YOUR BLOWING THIS OUT OF PROPORTION.

and how do you suppose to stop it? also could be some fans have a hardship year, and have to sell there tickets that particular season, and now ya want to strip them of there rights to own those tickets,

I don't care if they can tell who's selling them, just try getting it toi work in a court of law, it's never going to happen

I don't care if it is many, 1 is too many.

You are making up random scenarios that I am not even remotely talking about. If you can "here" me, you certainly are not understanding or even trying... If a season ticket holders main goal in owning those tickets is as a revenue stream they should lose their tickets.

They don't have a right to own the tickets. That's not a right... it's an opportunity.

Simple solution. Season tickets are now digital. For families that go in, names of those family members or possible friends that would use those tickets go on a list each year. If you transfer the majority of your tickets to someone outside that list for multiple years in a row, say 3, you lose your tickets.

Easily spelled out in terms of service and 100% legal.

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I know for a fact that there are season ticket holders that NEVER go to games and only sell their tickets. It doesn't matter if it is 1 holder or 100, it should not be allowed. They shouldn't even be allowed selling 4 or 5 games.

If it is too much money to own season tickets, don't purchase season tickets. Let someone else do it. Simple.

Again... WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SELLING 1 OR 2 GAMES TO HELP OFFSET THE COST.

I doubt you know many like that, I don't know any, and I can here you just fine, AGAIN YOUR BLOWING THIS OUT OF PROPORTION.

and how do you suppose to stop it? also could be some fans have a hardship year, and have to sell there tickets that particular season, and now ya want to strip them of there rights to own those tickets,

I don't care if they can tell who's selling them, just try getting it toi work in a court of law, it's never going to happen

I don't care if it is many, 1 is too many.

You are making up random scenarios that I am not even remotely talking about. If you can "here" me, you certainly are not understanding or even trying... If a season ticket holders main goal in owning those tickets is as a revenue stream they should lose their tickets.

They don't have a right to own the tickets. That's not a right... it's an opportunity.

Simple solution. Season tickets are now digital. For families that go in, names of those family members or possible friends that would use those tickets go on a list each year. If you transfer the majority of your tickets to someone outside that list for multiple years in a row, say 3, you lose your tickets.

Easily spelled out in terms of service and 100% legal.

I hear you fine, my point is that I doubt what your saying is happening, again I could see that happening under hardship conditions as I stated, but doubt it continues year after year or 3 years straight as your saying.


again you'll take a persons rights away simply because you think they've abused them, no freaking way will the people that run Lambeau do this stuff.

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The fact the waiting list is decades long invalidates this entire argument.

that list could be a 100 years long, it wont happen, no judge would go along with your proposal

Would never reach a judge if terms of service were violated.

keep holding your breath waiting on those terms.

[APB]

I don't care if it is many, 1 is too many.

You are making up random scenarios that I am not even remotely talking about. If you can "here" me, you certainly are not understanding or even trying... If a season ticket holders main goal in owning those tickets is as a revenue stream they should lose their tickets.

They don't have a right to own the tickets. That's not a right... it's an opportunity.

Simple solution. Season tickets are now digital. For families that go in, names of those family members or possible friends that would use those tickets go on a list each year. If you transfer the majority of your tickets to someone outside that list for multiple years in a row, say 3, you lose your tickets.

Easily spelled out in terms of service and 100% legal.

I wouldn't even give it 3 years.

And I wouldn't go so far as requiring a list of "approved" users. I'd simply implement a "re-sale" clause. If your tickets are found on any of the major re-sale sites more than X amount of times a year, say 2 for example, you're given a warning. If it happens any subsequent year, you're tickets are not renewed the following year.

That allows ticket holders to at least have the ability to sell tickets locally to friends or acquaintances (through private sale and simple ticket transfer) without penalty and largely keeps the seats filled with Packer fans. If you're placing them up for highest bid to enemy fans on TicketMaster or any of the other broker sites, though, that's tracked and limited.

[APB]

that list could be a 100 years long, it wont happen, no judge would go along with your proposal

Would never reach a judge if terms of service were violated.

keep holding your breath waiting on those terms.

Packers, Inc set the terms of service, not the fans or judges. They can include whatever clauses they determine to be not detrimental to their product. Unfortunately, to this point all Packers Inc cares about is a half frozen butt in the seat, regardless of whose jersey they're wearing which is the reason for my OP statement.