Let The Firings Begin

[kampmanfan4life]

He’s not going anywhere. He pulled his own head off the chopping block with very good defensive games against very good offenses to close the season.

I agree. I'd like to see him gone as I am sure the roller coaster of his unit will continue. Best case is he is kept on as more of an advisor.

Matt has a hard time firing coaches.

[Labrev]

We do not need to "fire" Barry, his contract is likely up.

I think we should hold open interviews for DC, but as it stands, it's very hard for me to argue against bringing Barry back. I wouldn't, but none of our season-ending losses have been his fault, in fact his unit has played pretty well in all of them.

[TheSkeptic]

We do not need to "fire" Barry, his contract is likely up.

I think we should hold open interviews for DC, but as it stands, it's very hard for me to argue against bringing Barry back. I wouldn't, but none of our season-ending losses have been his fault, in fact his unit has played pretty well in all of them.

I agree. He was not the reason the Packers lost yesterday, but that does not mean he can't be upgraded. Problem is that there are no obvious replacements that would be a likely improvement.

Just a fyi, though. The Packers would likely have won that game with Rasul. I hope MLF and the front office realize how badly they screwed up.

[williewasgreat]

We do not need to "fire" Barry, his contract is likely up.

I think we should hold open interviews for DC, but as it stands, it's very hard for me to argue against bringing Barry back. I wouldn't, but none of our season-ending losses have been his fault, in fact his unit has played pretty well in all of them.

I agree. He was not the reason the Packers lost yesterday, but that does not mean he can't be upgraded. Problem is that there are no obvious replacements that would be a likely improvement.

Just a fyi, though. The Packers would likely have won that game with Rasul. I hope MLF and the front office realize how badly they screwed up.

The only difference keeping Rasul would have made is if they had put him at safety. Our safeties are the major problem on defense.

[Crazylegs Starks]

We do not need to "fire" Barry, his contract is likely up.

I think we should hold open interviews for DC, but as it stands, it's very hard for me to argue against bringing Barry back. I wouldn't, but none of our season-ending losses have been his fault, in fact his unit has played pretty well in all of them.

I agree. He was not the reason the Packers lost yesterday, but that does not mean he can't be upgraded. Problem is that there are no obvious replacements that would be a likely improvement.

Just a fyi, though. The Packers would likely have won that game with Rasul. I hope MLF and the front office realize how badly they screwed up.

The only difference keeping Rasul would have made is if they had put him at safety. Our safeties are the major problem on defense.

Yeah, I'm really struggling to think of a game where Rasul, a strictly outside corner, would have made an obvious difference. Yes, there was the one game we started Stokes, but that was a bad decision, not something forced by the lack of Rasul; Ballentine and Valentine were both healthy.

[texas]

I agree. Barry has saved his job.

[wallyuwl]

I agree. Barry has saved his job.

Knowing this regime, I would be shocked if Carlson is NOT back without real competition. He needs to be cut and his replacement drafted even if it takes a day 2 pick

[Scott4Pack]

Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.

[go pak go]

Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.

I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.

Get off the field. Whether it is with the score not changing or giving the ball back to your offense with time left.

The way we played was the worst way to play it. The 9ers get a TD AND only gives us a minute left. And that is why I feel like we need to move on.

[Scott4Pack]

Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.

I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.

Get off the field. Whether it is with the score not changing or giving the ball back to your offense with time left.

The way we played was the worst way to play it. The 9ers get a TD AND only gives us a minute left. And that is why I feel like we need to move on.

This all day! Good post!

NFL playoff games are not ever going to be won by playing it safe. Never, ever. To win in January, teams need to always be the aggressor. And that is not Joe Barry.

[YoHoChecko]

Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.

I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.

Get off the field. Whether it is with the score not changing or giving the ball back to your offense with time left.

The way we played was the worst way to play it. The 9ers get a TD AND only gives us a minute left. And that is why I feel like we need to move on.

Also, you have a guy who stinks under pressure and is pinpoint with time. So DOUBLY play aggressive.

Prevent D is how you play when you're up multiple scores and need to burn clock and make them go the length of the field in as many plays as possible.

It's not what you play when you're up a TD or less

[Scott4Pack]

Sandbagger Joe needs to go. He isn't as aggressive as I'd like to see. He doesn't hide his scheme as much as I'd like either. But I don't have a say. If he gets a new contract, then I fully expect to cry about our defense in September and October again. But this year, I'll be optimistic that our offense can score >30 most weeks.

I really hated how he played that final drive. When you are up 4....PLAY AGGRESSIVE.

Get off the field. Whether it is with the score not changing or giving the ball back to your offense with time left.

The way we played was the worst way to play it. The 9ers get a TD AND only gives us a minute left. And that is why I feel like we need to move on.

Also, you have a guy who stinks under pressure and is pinpoint with time. So DOUBLY play aggressive.

Prevent D is how you play when you're up multiple scores and need to burn clock and make them go the length of the field in as many plays as possible.

It's not what you play when you're up a TD or less

Right. Can't play to not lose. Must play to win. If you play to win and you still yield a big play drive for a TD, then so be it. That's a lot better than getting beat because you're so soft that you can't stop anything. Give me that 100% of the time.

[packman114]

I hate bend but don't break defenses. We just never seem to play downhill. Barry's defense played better because our offense controlled the clock so well the last 5 games. His performance against the Giants, Bucs, and Panthers were not outliers. Barry was lucky Purdy can't play when it's raining.

[Scott4Pack]

I hate bend but don't break defenses. We just never seem to play downhill. Barry's defense played better because our offense controlled the clock so well the last 5 games. His performance against the Giants, Bucs, and Panthers were not outliers. Barry was lucky Purdy can't play when it's raining.

For that matter, compare Joe's defense against the Niners in the first 55 minutes of the game to Joe's defense in the last five minutes of the game. Different? Different result? Didn't he put them in a shell on that last drive, like he does most of the time? And look at the result.

[Trudge]

Barry's contract isn't up this year. LaFleur admitted today that Barry is likely to return next year. Mother $%@#.

[APB]

Barry's contract isn't up this year. LaFleur admitted today that Barry is likely to return next year. Mother $%@#.

So it seems

[Yoop]

I hate bend but don't break defenses. We just never seem to play downhill. Barry's defense played better because our offense controlled the clock so well the last 5 games. His performance against the Giants, Bucs, and Panthers were not outliers. Barry was lucky Purdy can't play when it's raining.

right , I understand the necessity to play coverage like that at times, specially if you have pass rush issues or poor secondary, but we have one of the best imho DL rotations in the league, every thing we do on defense should imo revolve around that, yet Barry is content sooo often to just rush 4 whether they get pressure or not and rely on deep shell prevent, while teams march down the field, use up clock, and score, we watched to often this season sub par talented QB's carve Joe Barry up.

they did it when we had Douglas, Alexander, Nixon, Savage, Ford, or all these puppy's, it doesn't seem to matter as others have said who is playing back there for Barry, whats strange, is that stuff really seems to make a difference on other defenses, studs stand out, that showed in the way we played the last 2 games in the first 3 quarter, got ta do that for all 60 minutes, I just don't have faith that Barry's capable of that.

[TheSkeptic]

I am sorry, but Barry did not lose that game. Dropped interceptions and that bad pass by Love that was tipped and the failed sneak lost that game and none of those failures had anything to do with Barry.

As for the bad pass by Love, that was after Tom got hurt and Love had no protection.

[Drj820]

I would be in favor of moving on from Barry if a bonafide stud wanted to come to green bay.

Like say Vrabel as DC (he wont) or Selah becomes available.

But other than a homerun hire, there isnt much reason to move on. Barry coached well when his job was on the line. He coached well enough to win both playoff games too.

[Drj820]

Barry's contract isn't up this year. LaFleur admitted today that Barry is likely to return next year. Mother $%@#.

So it seems

so what made everyone think it was up?

Hes def coming back, which is fine with me