Let The Firings Begin

[BF004]

Just saw a coach in Wisconsin was let go.

Disappointed it wasnt Barry.

[Yoop]

awe shucks, If we hadn't heard anything yet, he probably will be the DC next year, they had a meeting this morning, or so I read.

[Drj820]

awe shucks, If we hadn't heard anything yet, he probably will be the DC next year, they had a meeting this morning, or so I read.

Bout time you joined us in reality buddy

[Yoop]

awe shucks, If we hadn't heard anything yet, he probably will be the DC next year, they had a meeting this morning, or so I read.

Bout time you joined us in reality buddy

well you can be sure, I don't like this reality, and I'am hoping Lafleur is simply taking his time with a presser

[Drj820]

Feels like Jaire told the packers “it’s me on this team, or Joe Barry. Not both” and the org chose Barry.

[Scott4Pack]

Feels like Jaire told the packers “it’s me on this team, or Joe Barry. Not both” and the org chose Barry.

Sources?
Players don't get to make calls like that, at least not if they are not QBs.

[Drj820]

Feels like Jaire told the packers “it’s me on this team, or Joe Barry. Not both” and the org chose Barry.

Sources?
Players don't get to make calls like that, at least not if they are not QBs.

Just feels like a goodbye post

[go pak go]

Quite frankly if the Packers decide to keep Joe Barry, I would absolutely be okay with reducing the resources dedicated to the secondary because Barry doesn't use them.

Pay your Dline and linebackers. Our production wasn't all that different with the B/Valentines doing it anyway.

[Yoop]

Quite frankly if the Packers decide to keep Joe Barry, I would absolutely be okay with reducing the resources dedicated to the secondary because Barry doesn't use them.

Pay your Dline and linebackers. Our production wasn't all that different with the B/Valentines doing it anyway.

I expected this, my question is couldn't Gute and Lafleur see this coming, why make Alexander the most expensive CB in the league to play in a dumb dumb prevent secondary, why bring in Rasul Douglas, a ball hawk, then dump him for a 3rd round pick, this doesn't make a lick of sense.

[RingoCStarrQB]

Quite frankly if the Packers decide to keep Joe Barry, I would absolutely be okay with reducing the resources dedicated to the secondary because Barry doesn't use them.

Pay your Dline and linebackers. Our production wasn't all that different with the B/Valentines doing it anyway.

I expected this, my question is couldn't Gute and Lafleur see this coming, why make Alexander the most expensive CB in the league to play in a dumb dumb prevent secondary, why bring in Rasul Douglas, a ball hawk, then dump him for a 3rd round pick, this doesn't make a lick of sense.

Nor does dropping interceptions in the clutch. Doesn't make a lick of sense either.

[Yoop]

Quite frankly if the Packers decide to keep Joe Barry, I would absolutely be okay with reducing the resources dedicated to the secondary because Barry doesn't use them.

Pay your Dline and linebackers. Our production wasn't all that different with the B/Valentines doing it anyway.

I expected this, my question is couldn't Gute and Lafleur see this coming, why make Alexander the most expensive CB in the league to play in a dumb dumb prevent secondary, why bring in Rasul Douglas, a ball hawk, then dump him for a 3rd round pick, this doesn't make a lick of sense.

Nor does dropping interceptions in the clutch. Doesn't make a lick of sense either.

neither does dropping a perfectly thrown ball right to ya in the end zone
neither does a stupid holding penalty completely out of the play, or the PI's or other stuff during the course of games, don't you think thats a bit different then paying huge for a shut down CB then expect him to be happy to be a diversionary, complimentary player in a prevent defensive scheme, that was the biggest waste of resources ever

apples to oranges imo

[lupedafiasco]

Something Justis Mosquida said that makes a lot of sense.

Joe Barry is under contract still. And there no way the Packers signed him to an initial 4 year contract which I agree with. So that can only mean… The Packers extended him after the 2022 season.

[Drj820]

Something Justis Mosquida said that makes a lot of sense.

Joe Barry is under contract still. And there no way the Packers signed him to an initial 4 year contract which I agree with. So that can only mean… The Packers extended him after the 2022 season.

I said this earlier. That’s what’s logical. If we had any good reporters or beat guys, they’d get to the bottom of this for us. We don’t have that tho, just blogger Andy cracking jokes on x

[Yoop]

Something Justis Mosquida said that makes a lot of sense.

Joe Barry is under contract still. And there no way the Packers signed him to an initial 4 year contract which I agree with. So that can only mean… The Packers extended him after the 2022 season.

wow, that would mean we extended a DC after his defense ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league

length of contract, or actually any factual info about that is deemed a national secret, rumors, what I did find is that joe makes 4 mil annual and he's signed through 2024, at least, or so it would seem, again 4 mil is chump change to move on.

strange though to have a 2 yr contract, and probably why we ended up with Barry in the first place, most prospective cords are offered 3 year deals, stranger even would be extending one who hadn't actually made improvements, this seems like just more bad decision making by our FO.

While the job Lafleur has done on offense is commendable, it doesn't over shadow his neglect with coaching decisions, he kept ST's cord to long, and now it appears he extended Barry when he should have cut him lose after his first 2 years.

getting easier to side with Ringo, Lafleur seems incompetent as a HC, could be said that both he and Joe Barry where better at there previous positions then the positions they presently hold

[JKB]

Are you mad at Lafleur for keeping him? Why is he still employed?

Also, I skipped over this.

Yes, I am mad at MLF for keeping him at this point.

I think MLF is an excellent head coaching hire. I have stated this a number of times.

I think that his strengths are:
- He is a certified QB whisperer
- The culture and chemistry he creates has been consistently good over the long-term of his tenure, with the exception of 2022 when things with Rodgers got too bad. There has been a lot of tumult; and the players consistently under his leadership come together and create a healthy locker room
- The offensive system and scheme are really good and up to the standards of what wins in this league

His weaknesses are:
- Timeout management
- Emotionally-driven challenge flags (which is part of timeout management, too)
- The areas of the team he is less directly involved in (defense and special teams) have not been successful, leading to questions about his coaching evaluation\


His strengths wildly compensate for his weaknesses in terms of keeping him or not. I will defend MLF as the Packers' coach until the strengths start falling off. I liked him as a candidate before MM was even fired. I liked him as the hire. And I am incredibly pleased with the overall body of work and the results. His W/L record is fantastic. His playoff disappointments are disappointments. I get that. But I'm a big MLF fan.

Last season I was pretty neutral on fire Barry, like some are now.

This year, I've seen enough. If Barry is retained, I will be quite frustrated with MLF for the decision. And the defensive performance this year will be to a much higher degree be held against him because he failed to act when the evidence was overwhelming that it was time to do so. I'm not big on in-season moves, so I was fine throughout this season. But it is time.

But Are you mad bro? lol cracked me up

[RingoCStarrQB]

Something Justis Mosquida said that makes a lot of sense.

Joe Barry is under contract still. And there no way the Packers signed him to an initial 4 year contract which I agree with. So that can only mean… The Packers extended him after the 2022 season.

wow, that would mean we extended a DC after his defense ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league

length of contract, or actually any factual info about that is deemed a national secret, rumors, what I did find is that joe makes 4 mil annual and he's signed through 2024, at least, or so it would seem, again 4 mil is chump change to move on.

strange though to have a 2 yr contract, and probably why we ended up with Barry in the first place, most prospective cords are offered 3 year deals, stranger even would be extending one who hadn't actually made improvements, this seems like just more bad decision making by our FO.

While the job Lafleur has done on offense is commendable, it doesn't over shadow his neglect with coaching decisions, he kept ST's cord to long, and now it appears he extended Barry when he should have cut him lose after his first 2 years.

getting easier to side with Ringo, Lafleur seems incompetent as a HC, could be said that both he and Joe Barry where better at there previous positions then the positions they presently hold

Some think the amazing turnaround starting with the Thanksgiving Day win over Detroit merits keeping LaCoach and his staff in 2024. No one seems to be willing to fire LaCoach. I guess Jordan Love and the youngsters on offense are keeping LaCoach in Green Bay...the tail is wagging the dog which I think is awesome. I certainly don't think it's the other way around. I know some here disagree.

[Pckfn23]

Some think the amazing turnaround starting with the Thanksgiving Day win over Detroit merits keeping LaCoach and his staff in 2024. No one seems to be willing to fire LaCoach. I guess Jordan Love and the youngsters on offense are keeping LaCoach in Green Bay...the tail is wagging the dog which I think is awesome. I certainly don't think it's the other way around. I know some here disagree.

Why wouldn't that merit keeping LaFleur? Why should we fire LaFleur? Explain it to me like I am 5.

[YoHoChecko]

I have definitely moved on from trying to get a rational explanation from Ringo about his MLF feelings.

He is wrong. He is not rationally wrong. He is irrationally wrong. There is nothing more to do about it. No need to belabor it.

[Pckfn23]

I have definitely moved on from trying to get a rational explanation from Ringo about his MLF feelings.

He is wrong. He is not rationally wrong. He is irrationally wrong. There is nothing more to do about it. No need to belabor it.

Honestly, I just want AN explanation. Something like, "I had a dream about him $%@# my wife and now I hate the guy."

[APB]

I have definitely moved on from trying to get a rational explanation from Ringo about his MLF feelings.

He is wrong. He is not rationally wrong. He is irrationally wrong. There is nothing more to do about it. No need to belabor it.

Exactly.

His last post even provides ammo for retaining "LaCoach" -Jordan Love and the youngsters "carrying" LaCoach. Those "youngsters" didn't just magically gel and start ballin' because they had fairy dust sprinkled upon them. It's a testament to MLF and his staff that had them playing so well by season's end.

Like you said, it's irrational. No sense arguing it.