2024 Combine Results & Discussion
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2024 Combine Results & Discussion
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
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Caleb williams is an absolute dumbass or is hiding something. It makes no sense not to do the medicals.
I think he's a bust but he's not helping his cause.
I think he's a bust but he's not helping his cause.
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I think he just needs to go to a good organization that will bench him and teach him and humble him for a year.Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024 15:48Caleb williams is an absolute dumbass or is hiding something. It makes no sense not to do the medicals.
I think he's a bust but he's not helping his cause.
But he won’t.
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He’s so much like Mahomes as a prospect. Mahomes went, what, 11th? For a reason. But people see what Mahomes turned into and they want to make him that right away, so a top pick.
He has ELITE arm talent. He can do insane things with the ball. But he needs to learn more how to play within the scheme and system in rhythm. That’s teachable. What he can do off schedule and on the move isn’t teachable.
But you can’t just take the unteachable traits without a plan to teach the teachable stuff.
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Good points. Teachable and the ability to learn/take coaching will be key.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024 16:29He’s so much like Mahomes as a prospect. Mahomes went, what, 11th? For a reason. But people see what Mahomes turned into and they want to make him that right away, so a top pick.
He has ELITE arm talent. He can do insane things with the ball. But he needs to learn more hour to play within the scheme and system in rhythm. That’s teachable. What he can do off schedule and on the move isn’t teachable.
But you can’t just take the unreachable traits without a plan to teach the teachable stuff.
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I do agree with all that, and makes me happy I guess. Just means Chicago will be picking a QB again in 2027. They will destroy him.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024 16:29He’s so much like Mahomes as a prospect. Mahomes went, what, 11th? For a reason. But people see what Mahomes turned into and they want to make him that right away, so a top pick.
He has ELITE arm talent. He can do insane things with the ball. But he needs to learn more hour to play within the scheme and system in rhythm. That’s teachable. What he can do off schedule and on the move isn’t teachable.
But you can’t just take the unreachable traits without a plan to teach the teachable stuff.
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Admittedly, he’s not giving coachable vibes. But pubic vibes aren’t a sufficient evaluation really.
I need to follow the QB process more closely than I am for my dynasty pick. I keep forgetting that with Love on hand I still have to evaluate top QB prospects. Ugh.
I need to follow the QB process more closely than I am for my dynasty pick. I keep forgetting that with Love on hand I still have to evaluate top QB prospects. Ugh.
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Latu's lower half like like a horse. He's smooth. Really cool to see a few years ago they thought he was done
My draft crush Robinson didn't run good (nice vert) but his on field and tape are his ticket.
My draft crush Robinson didn't run good (nice vert) but his on field and tape are his ticket.
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Faster than I thought--and I liked him already
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Not bad for other board draft crushes, either
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That's my dude. Sure tackler, good in space and can blitz. Grew up 10 miles from me and I'm close with his HS coach. The kid works hard and a team player.
I like gray from UNC also. He's a nice will in the 4-3 look I think.
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I heard a quote from one of his coaches at NCSt said he's the hardest worker he's ever coached. His injury history is absolutely insane risky, but if it pushes him to the late 3rd or better early 4th, I'm obsessed. Before that, I'm a little leery of the medicals. Definitely the most important aspect of the combine for himBackthepack4ever wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024 18:57That's my dude. Sure tackler, good in space and can blitz. Grew up 10 miles from me and I'm close with his HS coach. The kid works hard and a team player.
I'm not even sure how you measure that...
Just retaining Eberflus, it is so clear to see the eventual progression. Struggles Year 1, forcing him to play too early. Eberflus gets canned. New offensive system in Year 2 or Year 3. Inability to develop pieces around him despite numerous resources to do so. 5th-year option/Extension questions and eventually moved on from. All of that to go with the typical April - August MVP dark horse/Chicago Super Bowl talk. I can't wait.BF004 wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024 16:33I do agree with all that, and makes me happy I guess. Just means Chicago will be picking a QB again in 2027. They will destroy him.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑29 Feb 2024 16:29He’s so much like Mahomes as a prospect. Mahomes went, what, 11th? For a reason. But people see what Mahomes turned into and they want to make him that right away, so a top pick.
He has ELITE arm talent. He can do insane things with the ball. But he needs to learn more hour to play within the scheme and system in rhythm. That’s teachable. What he can do off schedule and on the move isn’t teachable.
But you can’t just take the unreachable traits without a plan to teach the teachable stuff.
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."