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musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 16:12
I don't think anybody has proven anything. Every single year Vets come to voluntary camps, every year some big names miss, skip, sit out, boycott or show up for some. Some participate, some don't. Some come to Mandatory camps, some skip it, some hold out, some have all sorts of reasons for coming to some, none or all. And pretty much every year it never matters with a lot of them. A lot of these aging vets will be held out of reps in training camp too and preseason games etc. I think the FO's can handle it.

We had multiples miss our mandatory camp, any chatter? Only thing that's been proven, people love to talk about Rodgers.
You're missing the point still. Also, we didn't have multiple players who were unexcused. Not one.
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Mad that one got done first.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
13 Jun 2024 17:17
musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 16:12
I don't think anybody has proven anything. Every single year Vets come to voluntary camps, every year some big names miss, skip, sit out, boycott or show up for some. Some participate, some don't. Some come to Mandatory camps, some skip it, some hold out, some have all sorts of reasons for coming to some, none or all. And pretty much every year it never matters with a lot of them. A lot of these aging vets will be held out of reps in training camp too and preseason games etc. I think the FO's can handle it.

We had multiples miss our mandatory camp, any chatter? Only thing that's been proven, people love to talk about Rodgers.
You're missing the point still. Also, we didn't have multiple players who were unexcused. Not one.
This year. And what’s the difference? Heck they excused them because they’re vets. Some new to the team, 1st year here.

I know nothing of Rodgers absence, doesn’t really matter, it’s a Jets issue and from what their HC said, they don’t really have a problem with it either.

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13 Jun 2024 18:38
Mad that one got done first.
That’s a heck of a bar set by that QB.

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These contracts are absurd.

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musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 19:47
Pckfn23 wrote:
13 Jun 2024 17:17
musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 16:12
I don't think anybody has proven anything. Every single year Vets come to voluntary camps, every year some big names miss, skip, sit out, boycott or show up for some. Some participate, some don't. Some come to Mandatory camps, some skip it, some hold out, some have all sorts of reasons for coming to some, none or all. And pretty much every year it never matters with a lot of them. A lot of these aging vets will be held out of reps in training camp too and preseason games etc. I think the FO's can handle it.

We had multiples miss our mandatory camp, any chatter? Only thing that's been proven, people love to talk about Rodgers.
You're missing the point still. Also, we didn't have multiple players who were unexcused. Not one.
This year. And what’s the difference? Heck they excused them because they’re vets. Some new to the team, 1st year here.

I know nothing of Rodgers absence, doesn’t really matter, it’s a Jets issue and from what their HC said, they don’t really have a problem with it either.
You're still missing the point. It all comes down to Rodgers' hypocrisy.
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musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 19:48
NCF wrote:
13 Jun 2024 18:38
Mad that one got done first.
That’s a heck of a bar set by that QB.
Yep that guy has been trash

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Pckfn23 wrote:
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:think: :think:

queue yoop in 3...2...1...
and you brought this why exactly? do you know what a hypocrite is? it's a person who baths in the glory and success of others, but then smears the person that provided it, you've been one of the harshest critics of Rodgers, yet minus Rodgers and we are a perennial cellar dweller this last decade, call me a hypocrite, like I said, don't poke your eye out, the only hypocrite here is you.

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Pckfn23 wrote:
13 Jun 2024 20:13
musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 19:47
Pckfn23 wrote:
13 Jun 2024 17:17

You're missing the point still. Also, we didn't have multiple players who were unexcused. Not one.
This year. And what’s the difference? Heck they excused them because they’re vets. Some new to the team, 1st year here.

I know nothing of Rodgers absence, doesn’t really matter, it’s a Jets issue and from what their HC said, they don’t really have a problem with it either.
You're still missing the point. It all comes down to Rodgers' hypocrisy.
I haven’t I see exactly why people like to talk about him.

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musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 20:55
Pckfn23 wrote:
13 Jun 2024 20:13
musclestang wrote:
13 Jun 2024 19:47


This year. And what’s the difference? Heck they excused them because they’re vets. Some new to the team, 1st year here.

I know nothing of Rodgers absence, doesn’t really matter, it’s a Jets issue and from what their HC said, they don’t really have a problem with it either.
You're still missing the point. It all comes down to Rodgers' hypocrisy.
I haven’t I see exactly why people like to talk about him.
You included apparently. :twisted:
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Yoop wrote:
13 Jun 2024 20:29
Pckfn23 wrote:
11 Jun 2024 12:01


:think: :think:

queue yoop in 3...2...1...
and you brought this why exactly? do you know what a hypocrite is? it's a person who baths in the glory and success of others, but then smears the person that provided it, you've been one of the harshest critics of Rodgers, yet minus Rodgers and we are a perennial cellar dweller this last decade, call me a hypocrite, like I said, don't poke your eye out, the only hypocrite here is you.
I'll refresh that less than stellar memory
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“Flush the bulls---,” Rodgers said the day after the season ended. “Anything in this building that we’re doing individually or collectively that has nothing to do with real winning needs to be assessed.”
https://www.nj.com/jets/2024/05/why-jet ... he-bs.html

Maybe he isn't a hypocrite. Maybe, by removing himself, he is actually flushing the &%$@.

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Not really. My most involved post on the matter concerned all vets and their teams and how many partake in some, none or all of any particular ota or minicamp every year. Most don’t raise an eyebrow.

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Prolly should have gotten Jordan in before this.

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BF004 wrote:
13 Jun 2024 21:48
Prolly should have gotten Jordan in before this.

Love has a higher ceiling but isn't as good right now.

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wallyuwl wrote:
13 Jun 2024 22:06
BF004 wrote:
13 Jun 2024 21:48
Prolly should have gotten Jordan in before this.

Love has a higher ceiling but isn't as good right now.
Love is significantly better than Lawrence.
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every time I think the league going to be capping out in salaries for a bit, it goes higher. I never would have thought a QB with those credentials would be setting that bar even higher.

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wallyuwl wrote:Love has a higher ceiling but isn't as good right now.
I would take Love over Lawrence in a heartbeat right now.

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14 Jun 2024 05:53
wallyuwl wrote:Love has a higher ceiling but isn't as good right now.
I would take Love over Lawrence in a heartbeat right now.
heres the thing imo, pass protection, we saw Lawrence for the first 9 games last year right here with Love, coupled with minimal chemistry with receivers, limpy RB, it closes the room to error, mistakes and poor play are the result, add in Urban Meyer (rookie HC) and you have the recipe needed to create a difficult situation for your QB.

the Jags know Lawrence is better then he's been able to be, and 55mil. seems ball park for a up and comer, what choice did they have? to much upside not to retain

Payton Manning lead the league in picks as a rookie, pressure is kryptonite for any QB, specially a young one :mrgreen:

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Yoop wrote:
14 Jun 2024 06:44
APB wrote:
14 Jun 2024 05:53
wallyuwl wrote:Love has a higher ceiling but isn't as good right now.
I would take Love over Lawrence in a heartbeat right now.
heres the thing imo, pass protection, we saw Lawrence for the first 9 games last year right here with Love, coupled with minimal chemistry with receivers, limpy RB, it closes the room to error, mistakes and poor play are the result, add in Urban Meyer (rookie HC) and you have the recipe needed to create a difficult situation for your QB.
Your entire response completely ignores the "right now" qualifier of my statement.

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