So would every single GM in the league
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lake shark
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Not sure on that. Both have looked good and bad. The latest sample is Love good and Lawrence not good. Love may have a regression if teams adjust to better defend his frequent deep under throws. He needs to get more consistent there.
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RingoCStarrQB
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Lawrence's offensive weapons and coaches aren't that great.lake shark wrote: ↑14 Jun 2024 15:01Not sure on that. Both have looked good and bad. The latest sample is Love good and Lawrence not good. Love may have a regression if teams adjust to better defend his frequent deep under throws. He needs to get more consistent there.
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TheSkeptic
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And Love was on the youngest team in the league and won a playoff game anyway and then the Packers had nothing to be ashamed of vs the 49'ers.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑14 Jun 2024 15:05Lawrence's offensive weapons and coaches aren't that great.lake shark wrote: ↑14 Jun 2024 15:01Not sure on that. Both have looked good and bad. The latest sample is Love good and Lawrence not good. Love may have a regression if teams adjust to better defend his frequent deep under throws. He needs to get more consistent there.
No one knows the future but odds are both these QB's are going to be top 5 in the league soon - probably Love already is.
The only thing they got wrong was "cheap" seed. We at least used a first rounder on each of our last 3 QBs. 
I've never had much luck with cheap seeds, always end up with late harvest, and competing pot growers scarf up all the buyers, and I'am left to cutting prices to dump my weed
probably true, Lawrence forced to play in system with below average skill position talent probably developed poor habits and tech, while Love simply had to over come 1/2 season of poor pass pro and inexperience, he weathered that well.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑15 Jun 2024 03:51And Love was on the youngest team in the league and won a playoff game anyway and then the Packers had nothing to be ashamed of vs the 49'ers.RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑14 Jun 2024 15:05Lawrence's offensive weapons and coaches aren't that great.lake shark wrote: ↑14 Jun 2024 15:01
Not sure on that. Both have looked good and bad. The latest sample is Love good and Lawrence not good. Love may have a regression if teams adjust to better defend his frequent deep under throws. He needs to get more consistent there.
No one knows the future but odds are both these QB's are going to be top 5 in the league soon - probably Love already is.
Not saying Lawrence will struggle to unlearn any bad habits, or regain any lost tech ability, but many do, and never become the player they may have been, thats why it is so important to set up a young QB for success, supply quality pass pro, and also a bunch of skill position players, receivers that get open on schedule, and run precise routes, and stud muffin RB's that can force a defense to honor the run game, a TE that can do more then block, Guty did a great job setting up Jorden for success, no way he could know that Bakhtiari wouldn't stay healthy, and if he had our offense would have clicked even sooner.
I don't agree with everything Guty has done, but he nailed this transition, cudo's are deserved.
Trevor Lawrence is an average QB and he will have a few shining moments.
But there's no chance he will ever be Top 5 in anything... except disappointment for Jags fans
But there's no chance he will ever be Top 5 in anything... except disappointment for Jags fans
IT. IS. TIME
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lupedafiasco
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Yeah Lawrence is never going to be even top 10. He’s had plenty of weapons IMO to be better than what he is.
If he was going to be the great QB he was billed to be he would be there already. I never understood the hype in the first place. I always thought he just looked like a good prospect. Not a great one.
If he was going to be the great QB he was billed to be he would be there already. I never understood the hype in the first place. I always thought he just looked like a good prospect. Not a great one.
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I thought he looked like a great prospect in college. I believe it was his sophomore year, they beat Alabama? Don’t quote me on that I’m not as into college football. He looked like the complete package to me. His arm really stood out and he made quick decisions. He probably showed more potential than any college QB I have seen. Shame that it hasn’t translated to the NFL.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑02 Jul 2024 12:29Yeah Lawrence is never going to be even top 10. He’s had plenty of weapons IMO to be better than what he is.
If he was going to be the great QB he was billed to be he would be there already. I never understood the hype in the first place. I always thought he just looked like a good prospect. Not a great one.
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Tragedy Khyree Jackson Vikes R CB, 4th rounder dies in a car accident.
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lupedafiasco
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Damn. I had mocked him quite a bit. Really liked his size and physicality. Awful news.
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https://www.facebook.com/share/r/T1MuBE ... tid=oFDknk
If you can watch this let me know what you see as the BIG difference and honestly the difference between success and failure.
Mod edit: here it is from an X feed:
If you can watch this let me know what you see as the BIG difference and honestly the difference between success and failure.
Mod edit: here it is from an X feed:
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I see a more refined level of control and balance in Love. Shorter, measured movements. He looks natural doing it and much more comfortable. Fields looks like he's working through mental machinations and following the required movements on one of the old time learn-to-dance foot charts. You can practically hear him thinking aloud, one-two-three and a one-two-three...Pckfn23 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024 22:03https://www.facebook.com/share/r/T1MuBE ... tid=oFDknk
If you can watch this let me know what you see as the BIG difference and honestly the difference between success and failure.
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Crazylegs Starks
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What @APB said. Fields is awkward on the step to his right, and he is dragging his left foot which probably doesn't help.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2024 22:03https://www.facebook.com/share/r/T1MuBE ... tid=oFDknk
If you can watch this let me know what you see as the BIG difference and honestly the difference between success and failure.
“We didn’t lose the game; we just ran out of time.”
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lupedafiasco
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he stole Aaron Rodgers supply of ayahuasca
these two QB where coached up to be two different style QB's, Love a pocket passer learned footwork to be one, and did that mastering skills to maneuver in the pocket to avoid pass rushers, Fields on the other hand learned to run as soon as he felt pressure, plus being baptized under fire which runs the risk of learning poor technique, correct me if I'am wrong, but seems to me last season was Fields first being groomed more towards being a pocket passer, prior I doubt Fields looked for a 3rd or 4th receiver read very much, my impression always was that he bolted when he saw #2 covered, Love was never taught to do that.
I literally thought the point of the video was to show how smooth Love was and how choppy and terrible Fields was. That was my only takeaway.
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