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From Andy Herman
Some Jacob Monk clips from CLE game
https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 0ac08a.mp4
https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 2a52ec.mp4
Some Jacob Monk clips from CLE game
https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 0ac08a.mp4
https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 2a52ec.mp4
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Really liked what I saw from Monk. I’ve gotta rewatch the game because at times I was looking elsewhere but he’s one I really want to see. But the snapping issues talked about in camp showed up a bit from what I saw. That’s something he will need to sure up or he will never crack the starting lineup.
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Here's a clip from CLE game, this time showing a nice combo block from Rhyan/Dillard
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I'm going to be devil's advocate here. That's a standard block. You have a 4i with a C gap run, you have to combo. Basic. To then come off and get the ILB in B gap is pretty basic. If our linemen can't do those things, I would be very worried. Per Ross, the Watson block is good, not great.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I suggested its a nice combo block, you suggested its a standard block. Isn't it entirely possible that both of those things are true ?
And if that's the case, then the devil has no role here. Nobody suggested greatness, but it is nice to see the back- ups executing; especially given how little time Rhyan and Dillard have had together.
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A standard block and an "OK" block by Watson yielded a 7-yard run. Where can I sign up for that again?BSA wrote: ↑12 Aug 2024 11:53I suggested its a nice combo block, you suggested its a standard block. Isn't it entirely possible that both of those things are true ?
And if that's the case, then the devil has no role here. Nobody suggested greatness, but it is nice to see the back- ups executing; especially given how little time Rhyan and Dillard have had together.
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geesh Ross, everyone here at the Huddle knows that was basically a standard combo block with the C and RG, leaving out the words basic, and standard, paint this combo block as something that rarely happens, we know betterPckfn23 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2024 18:48I'm going to be devil's advocate here. That's a standard block. You have a 4i with a C gap run, you have to combo. Basic. To then come off and get the ILB in B gap is pretty basic. If our linemen can't do those things, I would be very worried. Per Ross, the Watson block is good, not great.
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Here's more on IOL Sean Rhyan from Brandon Carlisle
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/0 ... uard-spot/
While Rhyan aimed to solidify his case as the starting right guard, he ended up making a strong impression with his performance at center.”
“I thought he did a good job,” offensive coordinator Adam Stenavich said Monday after reviewing the tape. “That’s not an easy thing. It’s pretty underrated being able to go out there and make the calls, snap the ball to the quarterback without any exchange issues, things like that…I was happy with what I saw.”
In the presser today, MLF comments once again on SR's conditioning, saying that when he's fresh, he's plenty talented
Here's more on IOL Sean Rhyan from Brandon Carlisle
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/0 ... uard-spot/
While Rhyan aimed to solidify his case as the starting right guard, he ended up making a strong impression with his performance at center.”
“I thought he did a good job,” offensive coordinator Adam Stenavich said Monday after reviewing the tape. “That’s not an easy thing. It’s pretty underrated being able to go out there and make the calls, snap the ball to the quarterback without any exchange issues, things like that…I was happy with what I saw.”
In the presser today, MLF comments once again on SR's conditioning, saying that when he's fresh, he's plenty talented
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from Luke Butkus
On Jacob Monk:
Watching that film from the game on Saturday was an awesome – not a surprise because I know he's a tough kid and he works his butt off. But before the game during warmups, the look on his face, he was ready to rip somebody's lips off. That's the way he played, and it was fun to watch. He loves playing the game. He loves the physicality of it.
On Jacob Monk:
Watching that film from the game on Saturday was an awesome – not a surprise because I know he's a tough kid and he works his butt off. But before the game during warmups, the look on his face, he was ready to rip somebody's lips off. That's the way he played, and it was fun to watch. He loves playing the game. He loves the physicality of it.
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Yeah a center with snapping issues is no good but I’m definitely glad to see Monk executing. The vibes i got from Camp reporters is that he’s just clearly not ready, but he seems to have exceeded expectations when the game came on, per the Butkus quote BSA posted above and other clips and reports.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑11 Aug 2024 12:58Really liked what I saw from Monk. I’ve gotta rewatch the game because at times I was looking elsewhere but he’s one I really want to see. But the snapping issues talked about in camp showed up a bit from what I saw. That’s something he will need to sure up or he will never crack the starting lineup.
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Telfort and Jones are really nice/interesting RT options but it’s unclear if they’ll develop fast enough to be the primary backup guys this year. I saw nice clips if each around the internet but haven’t seen anything about potential negatives. I’ll have to go check some videos and bloggers to see more complete analysis bore that film review has been available
I think basically redshirt him as OC, but allow him to keep getting some of those bench reps at OG. Refine the snapping issues (seems easily coachable, right?) and then he should have a pretty seamless transition into the starting line-up next year when they let Meyers walk.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑13 Aug 2024 06:38Yeah a center with snapping issues is no good but I’m definitely glad to see Monk executing. The vibes i got from Camp reporters is that he’s just clearly not ready, but he seems to have exceeded expectations when the game came on, per the Butkus quote BSA posted above and other clips and reports.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑11 Aug 2024 12:58Really liked what I saw from Monk. I’ve gotta rewatch the game because at times I was looking elsewhere but he’s one I really want to see. But the snapping issues talked about in camp showed up a bit from what I saw. That’s something he will need to sure up or he will never crack the starting lineup.
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I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
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do some drink, eat, love the game more then others? sure, thats a human tendency, however Palmy speaks volumes concerning this.NCF wrote: ↑13 Aug 2024 08:35I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
to get to this level, love of the game is a prerequisite to being talented.
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
That second clip is pretty impressive. His short area quickness is on full display.BSA wrote: ↑11 Aug 2024 12:01From Andy Herman
Some Jacob Monk clips from CLE game
https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 0ac08a.mp4
https://files.mastodon.social/cache/med ... 2a52ec.mp4
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A while back Belichick listed the top five traits he looks for and #1 was loves the game and OT always seemed like a really simple thing to put emphasis on and so I’d also be curious.NCF wrote: ↑13 Aug 2024 08:35I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
It is interesting though because for instance Rasheed Walker’s pre-draft profile was NOT of someone who loves the game so much. It was mostly injury, but also motivation and attitude questions, if i remember correctly that dropped him from being a probable 4th/5th round guy to a 7th
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Bart was not fond of Steve Wright. But somehow he stuck.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑13 Aug 2024 09:21A while back Belichick listed the top five traits he looks for and #1 was loves the game and OT always seemed like a really simple thing to put emphasis on and so I’d also be curious.NCF wrote: ↑13 Aug 2024 08:35I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
It is interesting though because for instance Rasheed Walker’s pre-draft profile was NOT of someone who loves the game so much. It was mostly injury, but also motivation and attitude questions, if i remember correctly that dropped him from being a probable 4th/5th round guy to a 7th
I actually think @Yoop's comment puts this in perspective a bit. Maybe everyone loves the game coming in, but in the case of Meyers and Newman and others from the past, do they STILL love the game once they have been through a few seasons. In Walker's case, maybe the success he has enjoyed has reinvigorated his love for the game and pushed him to work harder. Just interesting psychology that I would be interested in having conversations about.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑13 Aug 2024 09:21A while back Belichick listed the top five traits he looks for and #1 was loves the game and OT always seemed like a really simple thing to put emphasis on and so I’d also be curious.NCF wrote: ↑13 Aug 2024 08:35I also have been wondering about this supposed revitalization of the Packers selecting football players who "love football". Like they eat, sleep, and breathe it. I would love to pick the brain of someone in the Packers organization and get a ranking of who it means the most to/least to. It seemed like such a theme from last years rookie class and has been a recurring theme, thus far, from this years rookie class. I would love a compare/contrast to that of Sean Rhyan, Josh Meyers and Royce Newman. Would it help explain the ascent of guys like Tom and Sheed and would it explain the plateau/regression of Rhyan, Meyers and Newman? I wonder.
It is interesting though because for instance Rasheed Walker’s pre-draft profile was NOT of someone who loves the game so much. It was mostly injury, but also motivation and attitude questions, if i remember correctly that dropped him from being a probable 4th/5th round guy to a 7th
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