Detroit Lions @ Green Bay Packers GDT - 9/20 - 12:00 CST

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salmar80 wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:40
Gonna have to hope for a historic GB offense, then?

The D has some great pieces, but too many real weak players too.
It's literally one weakness. Every other position with a healthy Clark should be great. I just feel the Packers since 1998 has done a fantastic job of completely sucking because of one weakness on the unit.

Every unit has a weakness. We as fans are obsessed with the excuse of personnel weakness because the Packers suck at covering weaknesses.
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Once again, Rodgers needs to bail the team out.

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lupedafiasco wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:39
I’m getting 2011 vibes from this team. This defense is never going to be good enough with the personnel they have. There’s nothing outside of Clark on the DL and Kirksey is clearly not going to be good enough.

This offense is going to need to do it all this year to have any chance.
This is what I was thinking, offense will have to score every time they get the football.

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go pak go wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:43
salmar80 wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:40
Gonna have to hope for a historic GB offense, then?

The D has some great pieces, but too many real weak players too.
It's literally one weakness. Every other position with a healthy Clark should be great. I just feel the Packers since 1998 has done a fantastic job of completely sucking because of one weakness on the unit.

Every unit has a weakness. We as fans are obsessed with the excuse of personnel weakness because the Packers suck at covering weaknesses.
I'd say ILB is a weakness too thus far.

Part of the problem is terrible containment with the OLBs.
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TheGreenMan wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:45

Part of the problem is terrible containment with the OLBs.
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the crowd noise is deafening :rotf: if we score it'll blow the windows out of the :rotf:

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go pak go wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:43
salmar80 wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:40
Gonna have to hope for a historic GB offense, then?

The D has some great pieces, but too many real weak players too.
It's literally one weakness. Every other position with a healthy Clark should be great. I just feel the Packers since 1998 has done a fantastic job of completely sucking because of one weakness on the unit.

Every unit has a weakness. We as fans are obsessed with the excuse of personnel weakness because the Packers suck at covering weaknesses.
Just not true. Even with Clark this is a weak defensive line. They don’t have anything to play next to him or behind him. The ILB looks already to be a downgrade from Martinez. Kamal Martin is going to need to save this defense. Then you have Darnell Savage who is still young with potential but so far he makes a ton of blunders against the run and pass.

And even if you ignore the run defense this pass defense gives up big plays fairly consistently.
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just listen to that crowd after the Lambeau leap :rotf:

we do need another big DT and a coverage ILB SOS
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There we go! Now that looked easy. Hopefully defense can get it together.
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Alright D, your turn.
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This offense is going to be great this year. Godgers is back.
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TheGreenMan wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:45
go pak go wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:43
salmar80 wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:40
Gonna have to hope for a historic GB offense, then?

The D has some great pieces, but too many real weak players too.
It's literally one weakness. Every other position with a healthy Clark should be great. I just feel the Packers since 1998 has done a fantastic job of completely sucking because of one weakness on the unit.

Every unit has a weakness. We as fans are obsessed with the excuse of personnel weakness because the Packers suck at covering weaknesses.
I'd say ILB is a weakness too thus far.

Part of the problem is terrible containment with the OLBs.
This is true. Also, our safeties are certainly not above average. They miss tackles and do not diagnose the running game well.

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lupedafiasco wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:50
go pak go wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:43
salmar80 wrote:
20 Sep 2020 12:40
Gonna have to hope for a historic GB offense, then?

The D has some great pieces, but too many real weak players too.
It's literally one weakness. Every other position with a healthy Clark should be great. I just feel the Packers since 1998 has done a fantastic job of completely sucking because of one weakness on the unit.

Every unit has a weakness. We as fans are obsessed with the excuse of personnel weakness because the Packers suck at covering weaknesses.
Just not true. Even with Clark this is a weak defensive line. They don’t have anything to play next to him or behind him. The ILB looks already to be a downgrade from Martinez. Kamal Martin is going to need to save this defense. Then you have Darnell Savage who is still young with potential but so far he makes a ton of blunders against the run and pass.

And even if you ignore the run defense this pass defense gives up big plays fairly consistently.
Worst defense ever. Need 11 new starters. Need 14 new backups. Need a new defensive coordinator. Need a new GM. Need a new team President. Need a new board. Need a new fanbase. Not even worth watching this team it is so bad...
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On that crossing route Lazard caught for a first, they had Tonyan to his right, and Ervin to his right clearing the DBs. I don't know if we've seen that play before.
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LOL!

LaFleur has already broken trends in this game. First was actually not time outing in a 4th down offsides trap.

Then that time we sure didn't wait until clock runs down...
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We don't set the EDGE at all.
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Lancaster almost had a QB hurry there
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Great coverage.
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good lord.

Lancaster is the only one with a pressure today.
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Now get off the field!
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