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Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 08:22Rodgers isn't the problem with the jets, and receivers do matter 23, only a fool would think they don't, and the more you have the more likely you are to win, obvious to anyone not concerned with the defending the foolishness that went on with GB for 8 years.
the Jets look like a terrible, lousy blocking, tackling,
I always said, if a team actually did what yoop says they should do at WR (like the Jets have) he would then turn around and be like, "AHHH!! Why do we have holes on the OL?? Why do we have holes on Defense???" and not make the connection between the extravagant investment he wants to make at 1 position and how the rest of the roster does not get enough attention as a direct result of that.
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You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 09:02NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
Roster building is more complicated than that.
THAT has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
I have always said it's better to have as many best players as possible.
Can't believe so many don't see that.
Can't believe so many don't see that.
We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.APB wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 10:09You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 09:02NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
It's a great song but that is not the quote that I responded to
Feel better?Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 11:26We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.APB wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 10:09You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 09:02
NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
Does the 472nd time typing out that same argument settle things for you? Or should we expect a 473rd go at it just to clarify how you really, REALLY feel?
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We are hereby gathered here to remember the great Billy Schroeder and Robert Ferguson. Oh and also Javon Walker.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 11:26We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.APB wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 10:09You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 09:02
NO, thats not it, it members commenting about all these great seasons, but with only 4 Lombardi's, and when we won them we had more then just one excellent receiver, receivers matter, and I was shot down every time I brought up the need for more of em after we lost PO games.
and 23 provoked it with his comment, completely obvious
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
It would have made me feel better if acknowledged at the time, I am not the only one who complained, just the most vocal, our FO depended too heavily on Rodgers to float the offense, and obvious with our playoff losses, who'd the Huddle gang blame? Rodgers of courseAPB wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 12:04Feel better?Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 11:26We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.APB wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 10:09
You're not shot down. You're simply met with opinions that largely agree - that multiple top notch WRs are a good thing - but difficult to achieve and that other roster areas also require attention. Despite that, you insist that the Packers FO should have just continued to dedicate draft resources, year after year, chasing a stable of All-Pro WRs as the apparent key to winning a championship.
Roster building is more complicated than that.
That has been the basis of the push-back toward you and your insistence on discussing WRs. Plain and simple.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
Does the 472nd time typing out that same argument settle things for you? Or should we expect a 473rd go at it just to clarify how you really, REALLY feel?
water over the bridge, Guty is treating his hand-picked QB the way Ted did, he loaded the gun, hopefully, he continues that as these guys start to age and decline
brandan needs to stop acting like a thug and stop antagonizing the yooper.
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It's not about value attention. It's about hitting draft picks.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 13:41It would have made me feel better if acknowledged at the time, I am not the only one who complained, just the most vocal, our FO depended too heavily on Rodgers to float the offense, and obvious with our playoff losses, who'd the Huddle gang blame? Rodgers of courseAPB wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 12:04Feel better?Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 11:26
We used most high picks, many of whom failed on defense from 2012 to 2021, and brought in jags to catch the ball, year after year that went on, Ted got it right his first 7 years, he chased WRs, won an SB, took Adams 4 years later, then neglected the position attempting to build a defense.
In conclusion, Ted was great at drafting receivers, and great at hitting some late-round picks, but he should have given drafting defense to 23, you, or anyone who would have bought players to fill in for draft misses
minus the bullets, and the gun don't shoot, that's whats plain and simple
Does the 472nd time typing out that same argument settle things for you? Or should we expect a 473rd go at it just to clarify how you really, REALLY feel?
water over the bridge, Guty is treating his hand-picked QB the way Ted did, he loaded the gun, hopefully, he continues that as these guys start to age and decline
J'Mon Moore and Romeo Doubs are the same attention. We hit with Doubs and not Moore.
EQSB and Dontavyion Wicks are effectively the same attention. We will likely hit with Wicks more than EQSB (though not yet full proven).
Bo Melton and Allen Lazard are both similar in terms of attention for the exception of the hits of Wicks and Doubs gives us the ability to ask Melton to be a 5 rather than a 2 or a 3.
It always comes back to the same easy rule. Just hit on your draft picks. If you hit on your draft picks...everything seems to turn out okay. Inner positional analysis is far weaker compared to just hitting your draft picks.
true, but not all 4th round drafts for receivers are the same, and one of the main reasons Doubs has done well is that defenses have honor the abilities of the others, fewer others allows more attention to Doubs.go pak go wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 14:13It's not about value attention. It's about hitting draft picks.Yoop wrote: ↑01 Nov 2024 13:41It would have made me feel better if acknowledged at the time, I am not the only one who complained, just the most vocal, our FO depended too heavily on Rodgers to float the offense, and obvious with our playoff losses, who'd the Huddle gang blame? Rodgers of course
water over the bridge, Guty is treating his hand-picked QB the way Ted did, he loaded the gun, hopefully, he continues that as these guys start to age and decline
J'Mon Moore and Romeo Doubs are the same attention. We hit with Doubs and not Moore.
EQSB and Dontavyion Wicks are effectively the same attention. We will likely hit with Wicks more than EQSB (though not yet full proven).
Bo Melton and Allen Lazard are both similar in terms of attention for the exception of the hits of Wicks and Doubs gives us the ability to ask Melton to be a 5 rather than a 2 or a 3.
It always comes back to the same easy rule. Just hit on your draft picks. If you hit on your draft picks...everything seems to turn out okay. Inner positional analysis is far weaker compared to just hitting your draft picks.
also common sense tells us if a receiver is rarely open on schedule, then he is not sought out in critical times, I remember people saying this receiver or that one was open, even Sullivan admitted that stuff happens.
Ted had a lot of misses on defense, but rather then buy a player to fix it, he'd just wait till the next draft, then another miss, ya can't over look the part of the team that actually wins games to keep throwing resources away on the defense.
I love Thompson, but he became short sighted the last 5 years, and it probably cost us a Lombardi
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Ignoring someone has made it much easier to get through the forum every day. At least until now, when every post has one of their's copied. When you KNOW that all someone wants is attention, good or bad, why give it to them? Much like most folks in the movies/TV business feel that there is no bad publicity...
yep my #1 goal is to upset you, and it's workingHalf Empty wrote: ↑02 Nov 2024 08:54Ignoring someone has made it much easier to get through the forum every day. At least until now, when every post has one of their's copied. When you KNOW that all someone wants is attention, good or bad, why give it to them? Much like most folks in the movies/TV business feel that there is no bad publicity...
this is a Packer chat forum, if ya don't like the chat, move on, real simple
And here I thought we were friends...Half Empty wrote: ↑02 Nov 2024 08:54Ignoring someone has made it much easier to get through the forum every day. At least until now, when every post has one of their's copied. When you KNOW that all someone wants is attention, good or bad, why give it to them? Much like most folks in the movies/TV business feel that there is no bad publicity...
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Tomorrow's early games are lame. Just root for another Dallas loss I guess. I'll be pulling for another Redskins W.
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How long before McCarthy is fired in Dallas?
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I'm thinking about two more games
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