Its really just a shame/bad luck that Jaire the last 2 seasons (when he should be in his mental and physical prime) can't stay on the field and be relatively healthy.musclestang wrote: ↑17 Nov 2024 18:57We didn’t play well on defense. It worries me that Jaire can’t stay on the field. It’s a trend. We need him. The other guys have too many vulnerabilities to miss him. We can’t help everyone.
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Tbh I have kind of just accepted a while ago that Jaire is not built to play a full NFL season, and will deal with some injury or another every year.
It really bites that we got rid of Sul last year; it would have helped make CB not as big of a need going into next FA/draft.
It really bites that we got rid of Sul last year; it would have helped make CB not as big of a need going into next FA/draft.
“Most other nations don't allow a terrorist to be their leader.”
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
My largest reason I am down on this team is I have lost faith in our front defensive 7.
Quay Walker is a total liability and the front four DLine are just bad. Especially our edge guys.
Opposing offenses will be able to dink and dunk on us as we just get no push or pressure.
Very much see the potential in the offense. But the defense not getting a pass rush and needing to rely on Stokes, Nixon and Bullard absolutely concerns me in playoff football.
I believe this team will be a 6 or 7 seed. Maybe get a Wildcard win but I just don't think they can make a run last unless Jordan hits a hot streak.
Love is the wildcard. His ceiling is so, so high. We just haven't seen it much this year.
Quay Walker is a total liability and the front four DLine are just bad. Especially our edge guys.
Opposing offenses will be able to dink and dunk on us as we just get no push or pressure.
Very much see the potential in the offense. But the defense not getting a pass rush and needing to rely on Stokes, Nixon and Bullard absolutely concerns me in playoff football.
I believe this team will be a 6 or 7 seed. Maybe get a Wildcard win but I just don't think they can make a run last unless Jordan hits a hot streak.
Love is the wildcard. His ceiling is so, so high. We just haven't seen it much this year.
It’s a win and that gets us closer to the playoffs. Do we look like world beaters? No, and at this point I don’t care because I want them to have things to work on each week. There are seven weeks to go before the playoffs, an eternity in the NFL. Time to get better and watch our main rivals slip or even destruct. Rookies and the young’uns still have time to step up. It took Bulaga a whole year looking bad, to average, to become a star in the playoffs.
The coaches had a bad week. It happens. And they can call themselves out and do better the next week. Selah will help call out them out. 3 more wins and we are in!! Get into the post season playing your best! Go Pack Go!
The coaches had a bad week. It happens. And they can call themselves out and do better the next week. Selah will help call out them out. 3 more wins and we are in!! Get into the post season playing your best! Go Pack Go!
Probably my favorite Bears fan. I honestly don’t know how he’s survived all these years of Packers induced heartache… 
Nice to win but this team needs leaders. X seems to be that guy for the D.
What about O? At his wage love should be, jacobs should be.
The receivers may all be 2s. May not be a single bonafide one amongst em despite the hype.
Wel see
What about O? At his wage love should be, jacobs should be.
The receivers may all be 2s. May not be a single bonafide one amongst em despite the hype.
Wel see
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Even more discouraging, Gary got paid and has been underwhelming, Clark got paid and has disappeared and may be done, and (as you correctly point out) Quay is in year 3 and continues to be a liability.go pak go wrote: ↑17 Nov 2024 20:18My largest reason I am down on this team is I have lost faith in our front defensive 7.
Quay Walker is a total liability and the front four DLine are just bad. Especially our edge guys.
Opposing offenses will be able to dink and dunk on us as we just get no push or pressure.
Slaton is a JAG and is a free agent to be. Engabare is, as a starter, meh. Wyatt started the year strong but has not done much since his injury in game 4. Brooks is OK.
LVN is almost unplayable at this time. As for UDFAs Cox and Mosby, who knows.
McDuffie and Wilson are both limited and not young.
Cooper is promising and I guess there is still hope for Hopper given that he has not played at all so far.
That Gary, LVN, Clark, Wyatt, and Q. Walker are all 1st round picks who are underperforming is really depressing.
LVN is not unplayable, but he is a JAG.
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Just watched the replay - what a game by Watson. That last catch was ridiculously good!
Y'all remember old Packer video of Holmgren telling Favre "no more rocket balls"? That always makes me smile, anyway that throw by Love with around 12 minutes left in the 2nd quarter to Watson was an absolute rocket ball. Watson settled between zone defenders and Love saw him a little late and just uncorked it (fairly tight window) right in the numbers.
Plays like that make me think we are going to be unstoppable and then he threw a fairly ugly pick.
He has had his share of big time (WOW) throws this year only to make a fairly ugly mistake in the same game. Need to find that happy medium. 
Plays like that make me think we are going to be unstoppable and then he threw a fairly ugly pick.
He has had his share of big time (WOW) throws this year only to make a fairly ugly mistake in the same game. Need to find that happy medium. 
just an observation, our DL seems tasked with contain foremost, which translates to not giving up the gap assignments, which allows OL to get a good grip/hold, which means there already behind the 8 ball attempting to rush the QB, when Hafley turns them lose we get pressures and sacks.
half our games have been against RPO style QB's, one of the best yesterday, what we are not getting is great support from second level lbers, it's been a &%$@ show, all year we've watched as they over commit to the wrong gaps, are blocked as they attempt to recover, and the result is a big gain because they were out of position to make a stop, as fans we blame the players, just maybe it's a coaching issue
half our games have been against RPO style QB's, one of the best yesterday, what we are not getting is great support from second level lbers, it's been a &%$@ show, all year we've watched as they over commit to the wrong gaps, are blocked as they attempt to recover, and the result is a big gain because they were out of position to make a stop, as fans we blame the players, just maybe it's a coaching issue
This year has some funky divisions going on.
NFC North has three of the ten teams in the league with 7 wins or more, 28 wins total. EVERY team in the division has a positive point differential, +277 in total.
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On other hand, AFC South has 15 total victories with ZERO teams with a positive point differential, -217 in total. Even division leader Texans is -2.
The Card's sixth victory ruins NFC West from having every team at 5-5. Funnily San Fran is currently last but has best point differential. Talk about division games mattering. Meanwhile in AFC East, it's all over with the Bills lead by 5 games over next place Dolphins and their 4 wins.
NFC North has three of the ten teams in the league with 7 wins or more, 28 wins total. EVERY team in the division has a positive point differential, +277 in total.
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On other hand, AFC South has 15 total victories with ZERO teams with a positive point differential, -217 in total. Even division leader Texans is -2.
The Card's sixth victory ruins NFC West from having every team at 5-5. Funnily San Fran is currently last but has best point differential. Talk about division games mattering. Meanwhile in AFC East, it's all over with the Bills lead by 5 games over next place Dolphins and their 4 wins.
Another observation: it's become apparent to me that Brett Favre would have been run out of town back in the day if this forum had existed. Some of the commentary on Love after yesterday's overall performance is clear evidence of that.
Prime Rodgers spoiled fandom criteria for some of you.
Prime Rodgers spoiled fandom criteria for some of you.
Yep. He balled yesterday.lake shark wrote: ↑18 Nov 2024 01:09Just watched the replay - what a game by Watson. That last catch was ridiculously good!
I give him his due, especially so given my recent commentary over him being unable to consistently come down with the tough catches. He certainly proved me wrong, at least for a day.
We were beyond spoiled, AR's INT avoiding was GOAT.APB wrote: ↑18 Nov 2024 06:22Another observation: it's become apparent to me that Brett Favre would have been run out of town back in the day if this forum had existed. Some of the commentary on Love after yesterday's overall performance is clear evidence of that.
Prime Rodgers spoiled fandom criteria for some of you.
What's actually been forgotten ALL the sacks AR took while doing that. Love is taking only one sack per game this season, and it's not like the OL has been 100% healthy and all time great.
I watched a front 7 that attacked Caleb Williams yesterday. There was no contain which is why Williams was able to rush they he did with little effort.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Nov 2024 05:57just an observation, our DL seems tasked with contain foremost, which translates to not giving up the gap assignments, which allows OL to get a good grip/hold, which means there already behind the 8 ball attempting to rush the QB, when Hafley turns them lose we get pressures and sacks.
half our games have been against RPO style QB's, one of the best yesterday, what we are not getting is great support from second level lbers, it's been a &%$@ show, all year we've watched as they over commit to the wrong gaps, are blocked as they attempt to recover, and the result is a big gain because they were out of position to make a stop, as fans we blame the players, just maybe it's a coaching issue
Our guys attacked and just simply lost outside of the 2 plays on that final drive. Rashan Gary has absolutely disappeared.
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CHICAGO – Rich Bisaccia issued the challenge earlier this week and Karl Brooks was bound and determined to meet it.
Leading up to Sunday's game against Chicago, the Packers' special teams coordinator saw a potential gap in the Bears' field goal protection on film and relayed that to Brooks and the rest of Green Bay's blocking unit.
It turned out to be a game-saving revelation. With the game on the line, Brooks charged, raised his left hand and got his middle finger on Cairo Santos' attempt at a game-winning 46-yard field goal to preserve a 20-19 Packers victory as time expired.
According to the Elias Sports Bureau, it was the second time the Packers blocked a field goal on the final play of a game. The other was nearly 85 years ago during a 7-6 win over the Cleveland Rams on Nov. 26, 1939.
"Rich challenged us to get a block, so I took it personally," said Brooks. "I wanted to go out there and get that block. I wanted to do that for Coach Rich."
It also was the first time since the 1970 merger the Packers blocked a field goal with under a minute remaining in the fourth quarter or later, per Elias.
An 11-year veteran, Santos had missed only one field goal and one extra point all season coming into Sunday, but the Packers saw some openings at the guard position in the field-goal protection.
Bisaccia made Brooks and fellow defensive lineman T.J. Slaton aware of that potential opportunity and challenged the two to seize it. Santos made two field goals, from 53 and 27 yards, and an extra point, but Green Bay kept grinding away at it.
Asked what was going through his mind when Santos lined up for the potential game-winner, defensive lineman Kenny Clark said simply: "That we were going to block it."
Why?
"We talked about T.J. or K.B. blocking the kick all week," Clark said. "They've got holes in their field goal protection and a couple of them they got close. So, we've been talking about that all week. It was a problem, so, Coach Rich has been telling them all week and we ended up getting one."
