Green Bay Packers' News - 2024

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Sooo, I guess da Bears' complaint about supposed penalty on the game-deciding block didn't go through? :mrgreen:

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salmar80 wrote:
20 Nov 2024 11:08
Sooo, I guess da Bears' complaint about supposed penalty on the game-deciding block didn't go through? :mrgreen:

Bwahahahahahaha!!

League telling the Bears to pack sand in the most subtle/obvious way imaginable.

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What a great quote!
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Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't understand the continued interest there.

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NCF wrote:
20 Nov 2024 14:20
Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't understand the continued interest there.

They hadn't gotten around to cleaning his locker space from last time around and figured they'd save on some disinfectant.

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NCF wrote:
20 Nov 2024 14:20
Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't understand the continued interest there.

easy, he's choppy, rounds his break point, and slow, perfect Packer receiver :rotf:

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Yoop wrote:
20 Nov 2024 15:29
NCF wrote:
20 Nov 2024 14:20
Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't understand the continued interest there.

easy, he's choppy, rounds his break point, and slow, perfect Packer receiver :rotf:
Yeah, but does he drop an inordinate number of passes, too?

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NCF wrote:
20 Nov 2024 14:20
Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't understand the continued interest there.

Alex McGough is the best prospect I've seen since Jake Kumerow! Maybe even Brett Swain! /s
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APB wrote:
20 Nov 2024 15:40
Yoop wrote:
20 Nov 2024 15:29
NCF wrote:
20 Nov 2024 14:20
Someone is going to have to explain this to me. I don't understand the continued interest there.

easy, he's choppy, rounds his break point, and slow, perfect Packer receiver :rotf:
Yeah, but does he drop an inordinate number of passes, too?
good point, no, he's never had a recorded drop in college or at this level, so it's improbable he last long with us :rotf:

I'd sure like to know why our receivers seemed almost always open last year, and this year always seem to have a DB in their hip pocket, very perplexing this football stuff :)

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Big game for the Packers and the 9ers in terms of their playoff participation potential
Packers can swing their chances by + 30 % with a win
9ers will drop their chances by -40% with a loss


IT. IS. TIME

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Youngest offense by far.
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:( :ambulance: :( :ambulance:
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Ugggghhhhhhhh!!! :evil:
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So what have we learned about Valentine this month? To answer this, I point you to one of the most stable defensive back metrics we have: Yards allowed per coverage snap played.

Over 99 coverage snaps at the outside cornerback position, as defined by NFL Pro’s player tracking data, Valentine has allowed just 43 yards as the nearest defender to the ball (Pro Football Reference has him giving up 37 yards this year if you want a second source). That’s good for 0.43 yards allowed per coverage snap. How does that rank? Well, among the 87 cornerbacks this season who have played as many snaps as Valentine, the league-wide average is 1.07 yards per play. Out of those 87 cornerbacks, only one has allowed fewer yards per coverage snap than Valentine.

Yes, this means that Valentine is edging out star players like Pat Surtain II, Devon Witherspoon, Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey, who all also rank in the top 10 in the stat among players with as many snaps as Valentine in 2024. That’s...pretty good and shouldn’t be ignored.

How do the rest of the Packers’ cornerback options fair? Keisean Nixon ranks 49th out of 87 with 1.07 yards allowed per coverage snap and Eric Stokes ranks 65th out of 87 with 1.35. Neither are as bad as the Dallas Cowboys’ Caelen Carson, who has allowed 343 yards (and two touchdowns) on 120 coverage snaps (2.86 yards per coverage snap), but Nixon and Stokes have both been playing below-average football this year.

To put it simply: The data says Nixon is a below-average cornerback but an above-average nickel player. The data says Stokes is a bad cornerback. The data says Valentine looks like a good cornerback.
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Cdragon wrote:
22 Nov 2024 09:51
So what have we learned about Valentine this month? To answer this, I point you to one of the most stable defensive back metrics we have: Yards allowed per coverage snap played.

Over 99 coverage snaps at the outside cornerback position, as defined by NFL Pro’s player tracking data, Valentine has allowed just 43 yards as the nearest defender to the ball (Pro Football Reference has him giving up 37 yards this year if you want a second source). That’s good for 0.43 yards allowed per coverage snap. How does that rank? Well, among the 87 cornerbacks this season who have played as many snaps as Valentine, the league-wide average is 1.07 yards per play. Out of those 87 cornerbacks, only one has allowed fewer yards per coverage snap than Valentine.

Yes, this means that Valentine is edging out star players like Pat Surtain II, Devon Witherspoon, Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey, who all also rank in the top 10 in the stat among players with as many snaps as Valentine in 2024. That’s...pretty good and shouldn’t be ignored.

How do the rest of the Packers’ cornerback options fair? Keisean Nixon ranks 49th out of 87 with 1.07 yards allowed per coverage snap and Eric Stokes ranks 65th out of 87 with 1.35. Neither are as bad as the Dallas Cowboys’ Caelen Carson, who has allowed 343 yards (and two touchdowns) on 120 coverage snaps (2.86 yards per coverage snap), but Nixon and Stokes have both been playing below-average football this year.

To put it simply: The data says Nixon is a below-average cornerback but an above-average nickel player. The data says Stokes is a bad cornerback. The data says Valentine looks like a good cornerback.
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Valentine is fine. Even Ballentine is okay. Stokes is starting but needs to improve. Maybe more snaps helps him as much as anything, as he's never really put half a season together it seems. We will be fine.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
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Last 2 weeks
Isn't it amazing (and frustrating) that the Pack's offense is where it is on that chart while they've left a lot of points on the field? I think things are looking up! Improvement! Get in a groove this week and beyond. Then stomp the Lions and other contenders.
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Love the Lone Star! :beer2:

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