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But the real question....does this game make us contenders? Or are we still just pretenders?German_Panzer wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 01:30Rodgers is the main difference maker to the last couple of years. He's more accurate recently. Plus he finally understood his reduced role instead of overtrying to extent plays: sometimes less is more.
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Ervin made a few nice plays himself, still a rookie wr had a big game last week( Hopkins), and somewhere I saw that Jefferson did well for Minny this week, and Love is a inactive, doesn't even have a clip board, can't tell me that that was a great draft choice, chances are we'll never see him play unless he can some how beat out Boyle, Lazard stepped up and had a great game, so did Rodgers, as did a few othersgo pak go wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 06:43I just find it so exciting at how every week someone else on this offense steps up.
1. Week 1 - Davante Adams. So are we relying too much on Davante? Aaron played great, but MVS had some drops! How come we didn't target the TE's at all!
2. Week 2 - Aaron Jones. Okay so we can play without Adams but that's because we need to ride the back of Aaron Jones. Sternberger can't catch sh*t and it's clear we just don't have the talent with our TE's or big WRs.
3. Week 3 - Saints focus to stop Aaron Jones and MVS....offense produces points primarily from the backs of Allen Lazard and the TE's.
I mean what more can you want from a fan? Literally a different group steps up each week.
And I am telling you guys that these Lazard plays were huge because NO's didn't respect him. They gave attention to MVS but not Lazard and Allen made them pay by getting behind the defense twice. This just gives more things for opponents to consider.
Awesome, awesome performance..
I'm sorry yoop. I don't comprehend what you are talking about here.Yoop wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 06:56Ervin made a few nice plays himself, still a rookie wr had a big game last week( Hopkins), and somewhere I saw that Jefferson did well for Minny this week, and Love is a inactive, doesn't even have a clip board, can't tell me that that was a great draft choice, chances are we'll never see him play unless he can some how beat out Boyle, Lazard stepped up and had a great game, so did Rodgers, as did a few othersgo pak go wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 06:43I just find it so exciting at how every week someone else on this offense steps up.
1. Week 1 - Davante Adams. So are we relying too much on Davante? Aaron played great, but MVS had some drops! How come we didn't target the TE's at all!
2. Week 2 - Aaron Jones. Okay so we can play without Adams but that's because we need to ride the back of Aaron Jones. Sternberger can't catch sh*t and it's clear we just don't have the talent with our TE's or big WRs.
3. Week 3 - Saints focus to stop Aaron Jones and MVS....offense produces points primarily from the backs of Allen Lazard and the TE's.
I mean what more can you want from a fan? Literally a different group steps up each week.
And I am telling you guys that these Lazard plays were huge because NO's didn't respect him. They gave attention to MVS but not Lazard and Allen made them pay by getting behind the defense twice. This just gives more things for opponents to consider.
Awesome, awesome performance..
He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
That can’t be argued. I wasn’t for a WR early. I said leading up to the draft we already had a #1 in a run heavy scheme. We didn’t need to go WR early although I still think they should have gotten something develop in the later rounds.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:05He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
That's sortta what I figured.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:05He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
Absolutely. Will Redmond and our run defense is by far the weakest spot on this team. No question.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:10That can’t be argued. I wasn’t for a WR early. I said leading up to the draft we already had a #1 in a run heavy scheme. We didn’t need to go WR early although I still think they should have gotten something develop in the later rounds.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:05He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
The run defense though needed to be addressed and it’s rearing it’s ugly head 3 games into the season.
I don’t particularly this is the most talented offense but it is the best scheme we’ve had here in a long time. Tons of pick plays and misdirection creation easy offense. Gone are the days when MMs horrible schemes made everything look so hard.go pak go wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:10That's sortta what I figured.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:05He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
I don't know how anyone can look me in the eye and say we have a weakness on this offense. We just played a Saints defense at full strength less our All Pro WR. Our Right side of the Oline being different for the 3rd week in a row. The Saints holding our rushing attack....and still put up 37 points.
I just don't know how else this Packers offense can make you happy. This is literally the most complete offense I have ever seen of my Green Bay Packers.
So many weapons.
Not the time to complain about the team in my opinion, but objectively...we got NOTHING from our first 6 draft picks last night.go pak go wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:10That's sortta what I figured.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:05He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
I don't know how anyone can look me in the eye and say we have a weakness on this offense. We just played a Saints defense at full strength less our All Pro WR. Our Right side of the Oline being different for the 3rd week in a row. The Saints holding our rushing attack....and still put up 37 points.
I just don't know how else this Packers offense can make you happy. This is literally the most complete offense I have ever seen of my Green Bay Packers.
So many weapons.
first, I'am happy with this win, however when you say we have no weakness on offense I disagree, we could have used slot 26 on either OL or DL, a better G/T would help the run game which NO basically stopped for most of the 1st half, or one of the WR's, and slot 144 (4th ????) on any position, Love cost us talent we sure could use on this team.go pak go wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:10That's sortta what I figured.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:05He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
I don't know how anyone can look me in the eye and say we have a weakness on this offense. We just played a Saints defense at full strength less our All Pro WR. Our Right side of the Oline being different for the 3rd week in a row. The Saints holding our rushing attack....and still put up 37 points.
I just don't know how else this Packers offense can make you happy. This is literally the most complete offense I have ever seen of my Green Bay Packers.
So many weapons.
To be honest, it still feels weird to have the RBs as a clear strength on our team. And not just one RB. I guess I've been conditioned by the years and years of pass-first mentality and talent.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:17I don’t particularly this is the most talented offense but it is the best scheme we’ve had here in a long time. Tons of pick plays and misdirection creation easy offense. Gone are the days when MMs horrible schemes made everything look so hard.go pak go wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:10That's sortta what I figured.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:05
He's pointing out that our draft picks are not contributing to our success and around the league, some rookie contributions are beginning to step up (huge day yesterday for rookie WRs Jefferson and Tee Higgins). So basically, he's saying that while the team is doing great, he still believes that a better/different draft that focused on more immediate contributors could have sured up some of our weaknesses.
I don't know how anyone can look me in the eye and say we have a weakness on this offense. We just played a Saints defense at full strength less our All Pro WR. Our Right side of the Oline being different for the 3rd week in a row. The Saints holding our rushing attack....and still put up 37 points.
I just don't know how else this Packers offense can make you happy. This is literally the most complete offense I have ever seen of my Green Bay Packers.
So many weapons.
Yeah I really think their development has taken pressure off a WR corps minus Adams. Teams must plan for them. The rb room is amazing. Jones is elite, and the way Williams is playing this year I fully expect him to be a starter next year on another team if we don’t keep him. Ervin is such a nice weapon bc the way he always shifts and goes in motions, teams have to take their eyes off a WR to account for what he is about to do. The RB room is amazing and a big part of this Offense taking off!!salmar80 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:37To be honest, it still feels weird to have the RBs as a clear strength on our team. And not just one RB. I guess I've been conditioned by the years and years of pass-first mentality and talent.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:17I don’t particularly this is the most talented offense but it is the best scheme we’ve had here in a long time. Tons of pick plays and misdirection creation easy offense. Gone are the days when MMs horrible schemes made everything look so hard.go pak go wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020 08:10
That's sortta what I figured.
I don't know how anyone can look me in the eye and say we have a weakness on this offense. We just played a Saints defense at full strength less our All Pro WR. Our Right side of the Oline being different for the 3rd week in a row. The Saints holding our rushing attack....and still put up 37 points.
I just don't know how else this Packers offense can make you happy. This is literally the most complete offense I have ever seen of my Green Bay Packers.
So many weapons.
Glad LaFleur realizes what he has and schemes accordingly. With these WRs, MM's "we'll get ya 1-1s and go beat your man" just wouldn't work. LaFleur looking like a helluva hire.
I'm sure if we had drafted a WR in round 1 we'd be 4-0 already, Covid would be cured and there would be peace on Earth, but meanwhile I'm pretty OK with what we've seen so far.
I think the way they're using Z in Clark's absence is going to eliminate a lot of his production. Preston Smith was doing a nice job of limiting the pocket and looking better than his blocker, but just wasn't getting home. I think Preston had a solid game, really. But Z liming up in that little "standing over the C" thing really gets him caught up in the wash and easily doubled where Clark would be. It's a weird and not particularly effective way to cope with Clark's absence, but it's possible that NOT putting him in there was even worse than doing so.