Changes to Make

[lupedafiasco]

Explained by pushing the cap back to continue a run with Rodgers, not some neglect of the cap because of signing 3rd contracts.

Rodgers was already off the books on this years dead cap. Still top 10. He won’t be on the books next year either… still top 10. Are you dumb stupid or dumb?

Why can you never just have a conversation? Grow up.

There was much more than just Rodgers's contract that was push out to keep the championship window open. Our 4 highest dead cap amounts in 2024 absolutely point that out, Bakhtiari, Jones, Smith, and Campbell. All had money pushed back to accommodate the window. In 2025 it is Smith and Campbell who account for almost all of it. Even next year we are paying for pushing back money on those contracts to try to keep the window open.

I’ve told you multiple times o have no interest in conversing with you.

[Pckfn23]

Rodgers was already off the books on this years dead cap. Still top 10. He won’t be on the books next year either… still top 10. Are you dumb stupid or dumb?

Why can you never just have a conversation? Grow up.

There was much more than just Rodgers's contract that was push out to keep the championship window open. Our 4 highest dead cap amounts in 2024 absolutely point that out, Bakhtiari, Jones, Smith, and Campbell. All had money pushed back to accommodate the window. In 2025 it is Smith and Campbell who account for almost all of it. Even next year we are paying for pushing back money on those contracts to try to keep the window open.

I’ve told you multiple times o have no interest in conversing with you.

And yet you continue to reply and mention...

[lupedafiasco]

Why can you never just have a conversation? Grow up.

There was much more than just Rodgers's contract that was push out to keep the championship window open. Our 4 highest dead cap amounts in 2024 absolutely point that out, Bakhtiari, Jones, Smith, and Campbell. All had money pushed back to accommodate the window. In 2025 it is Smith and Campbell who account for almost all of it. Even next year we are paying for pushing back money on those contracts to try to keep the window open.

I’ve told you multiple times o have no interest in conversing with you.

And yet you continue to reply and mention...

You’re the one always quoting and I always have to tell you I don’t $%@# with you. You’re the type that just needs to know it all and argue. That’s why threads get derailed all the time with you and yoop because you can’t let anyone get a word on you don’t agree with. It’s terrible for the board.

Idk how many times I gotta tell you to just ignore me and I’ll ignore you but you have super feminine qualities and need to always say something.

[Pckfn23]

I’ve told you multiple times o have no interest in conversing with you.

And yet you continue to reply and mention...

You’re the one always quoting and I always have to tell you I don’t $%@# with you. You’re the type that just needs to know it all and argue. That’s why threads get derailed all the time with you and yoop because you can’t let anyone get a word on you don’t agree with. It’s terrible for the board.

Idk how many times I gotta tell you to just ignore me and I’ll ignore you but you have super feminine qualities and need to always say something.

Wow. I would think the constant name calling and insulting other's wives would be terrible for the board. You got some growing up to do. It's a bit hypocritical to kick and scream about how the board doesn't want negativity or those that disagree with a more positive view, but then act this way when others disagree with you. All this because we were having a conversation about why our dead cap is where it is this year and next year. You may want put me on that ignore list if you can't control yourself.

[Pugger]

Last year people jumped on the bandwagon of my WR opinion because it was working and was fashionable. This year it did not work great and the sheep are retreating from this.

My stance has not changed. Our present model is good, they just need to perform (also I think the WR coach probably should be canned).

Do you believe the current crop of WRs presently on our roster is good enough?

When healthy, yah

Watson probably will start next season on PUP. Lord knows if Doubs can take another hit in the head. IMO our crop of WRs need reinforcements either via FA or the draft. Love needs a receiver who will be more consistent than our guys were this year.

[APB]

Coupled with this:

[Pugger]

That said, I am apparently also an outlier when it comes to how good the wide receivers are.

More specifically, I think Doubs is a physically limited possession receiver with little upside and now a track record of concussions. I also think his quitting on the team during the season is a huge red flag that the team ignores at its peril.

Watson is physically gifted, but after three seasons I have serious doubts about his durability. I also view his on the field play as being not much better than what MVS gave us. Coming off of an ACL, does anyone seriously expect Watson to contribute much in 2025 -- his contract year? I sure don't.

I asee Wicks as a 5th round pick with poor hands. He also lacks explosiveness.

The only current guy I have much faith in is Jayden Reed and that is purely as a slot receiver.

Comparing the Pack's WR room with those of the NFC teams still left in the playoffs shows GB's talent is not close to its competitors.

Washington (Terry McLaurin)
Detroit (Amon-Ra St. Brown & Jameson Williams)
Philly (AJ Brown & DeVonta Smith)
LA Rams (Puka Nacua & Cooper Kupp)
Minnesota (Justin Jefferson & Jordan Addison)

I expect that if the Packers give Jordan Love some better receivers to throw to his production will increase correspondingly.

Last year people jumped on the bandwagon of my WR opinion because it was working and was fashionable. This year it did not work great and the sheep are retreating from this.

My stance has not changed. Our present model is good, they just need to perform (also I think the WR coach probably should be canned).

I agree fully. I like the 6 #2 WR model better. It's just so much better to have an offense that is scheme-dependent than matchup-dependent. It's better to have a QB who runs the offense and throws to the open guy than a QB who bails out of whatever was called in order to play hero ball.

The problem was that this year we had closer to 6 #3's than 6 #2's. And in reality the #5 and #6 played like #5 and #6 as opposed to last year when they also played like a #2.

Christian Watson brings a lot of stuff off the ball too just by being on the field. Doubs played well. Reed didn't get enough looks. Wicks sucked. Melton and Heath played like guys who will be replaced. We got majorly injured and the bottom guys did not step up.

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in a FA WR, but I don't want a guy who will be anything more than just a piece in our existing rotation. I do want to draft some WRs though because that position group failed us when it mattered most so something needs to be tweaked.

There is nothing wrong in having a top flight WR that keep defensive coordinators up at night as long as your QB doesn't get tunnel vision.

[Pckfn23]

They got Dallas Turner and Zadarius Smith for all the picks they traded away.

[APB]

They got Dallas Turner and Zadarius Smith for all the picks they traded away.

Being real, though, the Vikes also have a buttload of cap space available and will likely gain some comp picks so…all is not lost.

[APB]

Davante definitely dropping the hints…

[Pckfn23]

They got Dallas Turner and Zadarius Smith for all the picks they traded away.

Being real, though, the Vikes also have a buttload of cap space available and will likely gain some comp picks so…all is not lost.

I haven't looked at their free agents coming up. I can't remember, do 1 year contracts count towards compensatory picks?

[APB]

Another not so subtle message from Davante:

[APB]

They got Dallas Turner and Zadarius Smith for all the picks they traded away.

Being real, though, the Vikes also have a buttload of cap space available and will likely gain some comp picks so…all is not lost.

I haven't looked at their free agents coming up. I can't remember, do 1 year contracts count towards compensatory picks?

I believe they do. Someone like Aaron Jones won't count, tho, as he was waived by the Packers, not a contractually expired FA.

Here is the forecast from some analyst at NFL.com:

[wallyuwl]

This young WR group desperately needed a vet to show them the ropes these past two years. 17 would be a welcome addition, even if he might only have 2 or 3 good years left.

[APB]

This young WR group desperately needed a vet to show them the ropes these past two years. 17 would be a welcome addition, even if he might only have 2 or 3 good years left.

Even with the inevitable future decline in play, Davante could cement his football legacy with HOF voters with a couple more years of high end production as the WR1 while also cementing his place among Packer legends as mentor to the WR room and a locker room leader for the entire team. Hasn't the theme of post-elimination interviews focused on lack of leaders in the locker room?

Davante has surely seen how the legacy players are treated in Titletown and how a positive relationship into retirement would be the gift that keeps giving.

It's a good move for the organization and for Adams personally.

[TheSkeptic]

This young WR group desperately needed a vet to show them the ropes these past two years. 17 would be a welcome addition, even if he might only have 2 or 3 good years left.

Even with the inevitable future decline in play, Davante could cement his football legacy with HOF voters with a couple more years of high end production as the WR1 while also cementing his place among Packer legends as mentor to the WR room and a locker room leader for the entire team. Hasn't the theme of post-elimination interviews focused on lack of leaders in the locker room?

Davante has surely seen how the legacy players are treated in Titletown and how a positive relationship into retirement would be the gift that keeps giving.

It's a good move for the organization and for Adams personally.

Adams is 32 years old!

[Pugger]

This young WR group desperately needed a vet to show them the ropes these past two years. 17 would be a welcome addition, even if he might only have 2 or 3 good years left.

Even with the inevitable future decline in play, Davante could cement his football legacy with HOF voters with a couple more years of high end production as the WR1 while also cementing his place among Packer legends as mentor to the WR room and a locker room leader for the entire team. Hasn't the theme of post-elimination interviews focused on lack of leaders in the locker room?

Davante has surely seen how the legacy players are treated in Titletown and how a positive relationship into retirement would be the gift that keeps giving.

It's a good move for the organization and for Adams personally.

The only way Adams "comes home" is if his contract is restructured. I doubt another team will pay him as big a coin seeing he is on the wrong side of 30 either. His responses in that interview suggest he may be open to a return. Yes, a guy like him would be a wonderful mentor in our WR room.

[Yoop]

Last year people jumped on the bandwagon of my WR opinion because it was working and was fashionable. This year it did not work great and the sheep are retreating from this.

My stance has not changed. Our present model is good, they just need to perform (also I think the WR coach probably should be canned).

everyone wanted what these receivers were showing late last year, why is it that u think you were driving that bandwagon this year the main player vying for #1 status (Watson) has been hurt more than healthy, which makes it more difficult for the rest to excel, and all seemed to have a 2nd year slump, which can only be a 2nd year slump if they do well next year, which comes with the risk that it wasn't a slump and they in fact are #3 or worse receivers, and the real issue is Watson, this is his 5th knee injury, and he has bee unreliable, so we do need a more reliable #1.

agree, not impressed with Vrabel, or other coaches connected to passing this season.

[NCF]

This young WR group desperately needed a vet to show them the ropes these past two years. 17 would be a welcome addition, even if he might only have 2 or 3 good years left.

Even with the inevitable future decline in play, Davante could cement his football legacy with HOF voters with a couple more years of high end production as the WR1 while also cementing his place among Packer legends as mentor to the WR room and a locker room leader for the entire team. Hasn't the theme of post-elimination interviews focused on lack of leaders in the locker room?

Davante has surely seen how the legacy players are treated in Titletown and how a positive relationship into retirement would be the gift that keeps giving.

It's a good move for the organization and for Adams personally.

The only way Adams "comes home" is if his contract is restructured. I doubt another team will pay him as big a coin seeing he is on the wrong side of 30 either. His responses in that interview suggest he may be open to a return. Yes, a guy like him would be a wonderful mentor in our WR room.

Not only is that not the only way, it is a highly unlikely way. No one is trading for that contract and Adams has no incentive to restructure. He will be released and free to sign an open market deal. I doubt we will be the highest bidder, but I don't think he will be solely chasing another payday, either.

[go pak go]

I think Davante Adams is going to be a Packer. Seems he talks more about the Packers and Jordan Love than he ever did about the Raiders or Jets and Rodgers.

I think he saw the grass ain't greener and he has a ton of money now. He is entering the time in his career where money isn't the driver. Legacy and rings are.

I think there is a decent chance 17 is back in Green Bay.