Brian Gutekunst says the Packers need to 'ramp up our sense of urgency'

[Pckfn23]

What major changes to the way he operates would you suggest or even what major changes can be implemented?

APB indicated “major changes” were planned from Gutekunst this offseason, thus I asked him what, if any, major changes he anticipated on Gutekunst’s part.

I do not anticipate any major changes in the way Gutekunst operates.

For that reason, I found his end of the year presser statement about ramping up the urgency to be interesting, and directed toward others.

Do you believe Gutekunst was referring to himself when he said the urgency needed to be ramped up?

if you do, how do you think Gutekunst’s “urgency” to play out?

This was APB's exact quote:

Y'alls interpretation, to me, is that Gute is content to go forward without any major changes, just expecting these guys to just be better.

That's not at all what I came away with.

I think you misinterpret what APB is saying. APB clearly believes Gutekunst wants to get better with more than just the players we currently have.

You seem to believe signing 1 or 2 bigger free agents wouldn't be a major change for Gutekunst because he already did that. I see that as about the only way a GM can bring about major/quick change without firing coaches or front office personnel. I do not believe any of the latter is warranted at this time. Not by a long short.

So that is why I ask, what major changes can Brian Gutekunst implement in the way he operates?

[RingoCStarrQB]

What major changes to the way he operates would you suggest or even what major changes can be implemented?

None besides the obvious (which are not really major changes). 1) Pick up some more blockbuster free agents. 2) Improve the coaching staff.

I'd like to see Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. Now that would be a major change.

This convo continues to be stale. It ain't going anywhere. Gutey is full of hot air and BS. He's covering his behind.

[Pckfn23]

What major changes to the way he operates would you suggest or even what major changes can be implemented?

None besides the obvious (which are not really major changes). 1) Pick up some more blockbuster free agents. 2) Improve the coaching staff.

I'd like to see Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. Now that would be a major change.

While I agree that LaFleur had a down year and made some really dumb mistakes throughout the year, this was not the norm for him. These need to get fixed, no doubt, but they aren't some trend that Gutekunst has overlooked all these years. You assume Gutekunst isn't holding LaFleur accountable, why do you say that?

[musclestang]

Other than making mistakes a long the way, I see no reason to dive too deep into the pool of Gutey and MLF. By and large I think they do a better job than most and both have things that could have gone better.

I do think there was a big message to the players. I do think a lot of those young guys read too many press clippings over the offseason last year. They didn't look nearly as prepared or crisp or as consistent this year. To me, It was less party more work or you'll be replaced.

[LombardiTime]

What major changes to the way he operates would you suggest or even what major changes can be implemented?

APB indicated “major changes” were planned from Gutekunst this offseason, thus I asked him what, if any, major changes he anticipated on Gutekunst’s part.

I do not anticipate any major changes in the way Gutekunst operates.

For that reason, I found his end of the year presser statement about ramping up the urgency to be interesting, and directed toward others.

Do you believe Gutekunst was referring to himself when he said the urgency needed to be ramped up?

if you do, how do you think Gutekunst’s “urgency” to play out?

This was APB's exact quote:

Y'alls interpretation, to me, is that Gute is content to go forward without any major changes, just expecting these guys to just be better.

That's not at all what I came away with.

I think you misinterpret what APB is saying. APB clearly believes Gutekunst wants to get better with more than just the players we currently have.

You seem to believe signing 1 or 2 bigger free agents wouldn't be a major change for Gutekunst because he already did that. I see that as about the only way a GM can bring about major/quick change without firing coaches or front office personnel. I do not believe any of the latter is warranted at this time. Not by a long short.

So that is why I ask, what major changes can Brian Gutekunst implement in the way he operates?

I think I see the disconnect now.

APB meant, or at least your interpretation of what APB meant, by saying “major change” as it applies to Gutekunst is that he will add 1 or 2 bigger free agents.

I don’t doubt that he will add a significant free agent or two just like he did last offseason and previously did when he had money to spend.

In my view, that is not ramping up any urgency but rather the status quo as far as how the Packer’s GM operates.

And it sort of confirms my belief that Gutekunst’s ramp up the urgency was directed at others, specifically the players and possibly the coaches, and he was not including himself.

However, if you think Gutekunst was including himself I’d love to know what it is you think he will be doing to ramp up his urgency other than dipping into free agency again this offseason.

[Pckfn23]

APB indicated “major changes” were planned from Gutekunst this offseason, thus I asked him what, if any, major changes he anticipated on Gutekunst’s part.

I do not anticipate any major changes in the way Gutekunst operates.

For that reason, I found his end of the year presser statement about ramping up the urgency to be interesting, and directed toward others.

Do you believe Gutekunst was referring to himself when he said the urgency needed to be ramped up?

if you do, how do you think Gutekunst’s “urgency” to play out?

This was APB's exact quote:

Y'alls interpretation, to me, is that Gute is content to go forward without any major changes, just expecting these guys to just be better.

That's not at all what I came away with.

I think you misinterpret what APB is saying. APB clearly believes Gutekunst wants to get better with more than just the players we currently have.

You seem to believe signing 1 or 2 bigger free agents wouldn't be a major change for Gutekunst because he already did that. I see that as about the only way a GM can bring about major/quick change without firing coaches or front office personnel. I do not believe any of the latter is warranted at this time. Not by a long short.

So that is why I ask, what major changes can Brian Gutekunst implement in the way he operates?

I think I see the disconnect now.

APB meant, or at least your interpretation of what APB meant, by saying “major change” as it applies to Gutekunst is that he will add 1 or 2 bigger free agents.

I don’t doubt that he will add a significant free agent or two just like he did last offseason and previously did when he had money to spend.

In my view, that is not ramping up any urgency but rather the status quo as far as how the Packer’s GM operates.

And it sort of confirms my belief that Gutekunst’s ramp up the urgency was directed at others, specifically the players and possibly the coaches, and he was not including himself.

However, if you think Gutekunst was including himself I’d love to know what it is you think he will be doing to ramp up his urgency other than dipping into free agency again this offseason.

I'd actually love to know what major changes CAN Brian Gutekunst implement in the way he operates? Do you believe firing LaFleur is that major Change?

[Madcity_matt]

Agreed with what APB said.

The time is now. Maybe always being the youngest isn't something to hang your hat on. Add some vets that can lead. Hold these young guys accountable. Hopefully ML can get more out of Love as a leader... He has spoken on that

Imo the talent gap isn't to wide. It's playing complimentary football and limiting mistakes.

Don't bank on rookies to be the fix next year. Im cool with rookies playing and being a supporting piece but a rookie cb isn't fixing the position. A rookie wr or pass rushers isn't putting us over the top at those positions either. Rookie long term but I think gute looks to add a top talent vet (or at least I hope)

3rs year starting for love. I think they believe it's time to make that Superbowl push.

GB was the youngest team in the league for the last two years but I don't think that's at all the long term plan. They needed to recover the salary cap and youth both fits that bill, but also gives you lots of opportunities for development. My take was that Gute recognizes that Step one is complete (more or less.) the cap is healthy ad the team is young with promise. The window is open and the team needs to take advantage of it. I think last year was a more than pleasant and unexpected surprise- if last year and this were flipped around we'd all be pretty stoked I think.

[go pak go]

Agreed with what APB said.

The time is now. Maybe always being the youngest isn't something to hang your hat on. Add some vets that can lead. Hold these young guys accountable. Hopefully ML can get more out of Love as a leader... He has spoken on that

Imo the talent gap isn't to wide. It's playing complimentary football and limiting mistakes.

Don't bank on rookies to be the fix next year. Im cool with rookies playing and being a supporting piece but a rookie cb isn't fixing the position. A rookie wr or pass rushers isn't putting us over the top at those positions either. Rookie long term but I think gute looks to add a top talent vet (or at least I hope)

3rs year starting for love. I think they believe it's time to make that Superbowl push.

GB was the youngest team in the league for the last two years but I don't think that's at all the long term plan. They needed to recover the salary cap and youth both fits that bill, but also gives you lots of opportunities for development. My take was that Gute recognizes that Step one is complete (more or less.) the cap is healthy ad the team is young with promise. The window is open and the team needs to take advantage of it. I think last year was a more than pleasant and unexpected surprise- if last year and this were flipped around we'd all be pretty stoked I think.

I don't think people would be stoked starting 3-6 in 2024. That would be seen as a HUGE step back. Really all we want from 2023 is two regular season games (Detroit and KC) and the postseason.

Other than that, 2023 can keep 2023.

[Madcity_matt]

Agreed with what APB said.

The time is now. Maybe always being the youngest isn't something to hang your hat on. Add some vets that can lead. Hold these young guys accountable. Hopefully ML can get more out of Love as a leader... He has spoken on that

Imo the talent gap isn't to wide. It's playing complimentary football and limiting mistakes.

Don't bank on rookies to be the fix next year. Im cool with rookies playing and being a supporting piece but a rookie cb isn't fixing the position. A rookie wr or pass rushers isn't putting us over the top at those positions either. Rookie long term but I think gute looks to add a top talent vet (or at least I hope)

3rs year starting for love. I think they believe it's time to make that Superbowl push.

GB was the youngest team in the league for the last two years but I don't think that's at all the long term plan. They needed to recover the salary cap and youth both fits that bill, but also gives you lots of opportunities for development. My take was that Gute recognizes that Step one is complete (more or less.) the cap is healthy ad the team is young with promise. The window is open and the team needs to take advantage of it. I think last year was a more than pleasant and unexpected surprise- if last year and this were flipped around we'd all be pretty stoked I think.

I don't think people would be stoked starting 3-6 in 2024. That would be seen as a HUGE step back. Really all we want from 2023 is two regular season games (Detroit and KC) and the postseason.

Other than that, 2023 can keep 2023.

That's fair- I was thinking more about the finish.

[Backthepack4ever]

I agree Matt. I am not upset we are young, I just don't like the excuse and I believe gute put everyone on notice that mistakes and sloppy play need to be cleaned up. Philly again got by bc they didn't put the ball on the turf and made plays in big moments. (Rams Texans and ravens all did packer like mistakes).

I am excited to see who takes a leadership role internally. I pray love does bc I think that's part of being qb1.

It's going to me an exciting off-season but more importantly it's time to get back to the sb

[RingoCStarrQB]

What major changes to the way he operates would you suggest or even what major changes can be implemented?

None besides the obvious (which are not really major changes). 1) Pick up some more blockbuster free agents. 2) Improve the coaching staff.

I'd like to see Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. Now that would be a major change.

While I agree that LaFleur had a down year and made some really dumb mistakes throughout the year, this was not the norm for him. These need to get fixed, no doubt, but they aren't some trend that Gutekunst has overlooked all these years. You assume Gutekunst isn't holding LaFleur accountable, why do you say that?

I would never assume Gutey would have the common sense to hold any of his underlings accountable. I said I would LIKE TO SEE Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. He doesn't. If he did, I would know that. We all would know that.

[Cdragon]

None besides the obvious (which are not really major changes). 1) Pick up some more blockbuster free agents. 2) Improve the coaching staff.

I'd like to see Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. Now that would be a major change.

While I agree that LaFleur had a down year and made some really dumb mistakes throughout the year, this was not the norm for him. These need to get fixed, no doubt, but they aren't some trend that Gutekunst has overlooked all these years. You assume Gutekunst isn't holding LaFleur accountable, why do you say that?

I would never assume Gutey would have the common sense to hold any of his underlings accountable. I said I would LIKE TO SEE Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. He doesn't. If he did, I would know that. We all would know that.

What does accountability look like? Moving his parking spot a row back?

[Pckfn23]

None besides the obvious (which are not really major changes). 1) Pick up some more blockbuster free agents. 2) Improve the coaching staff.

I'd like to see Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. Now that would be a major change.

While I agree that LaFleur had a down year and made some really dumb mistakes throughout the year, this was not the norm for him. These need to get fixed, no doubt, but they aren't some trend that Gutekunst has overlooked all these years. You assume Gutekunst isn't holding LaFleur accountable, why do you say that?

I would never assume Gutey would have the common sense to hold any of his underlings accountable. I said I would LIKE TO SEE Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. He doesn't. If he did, I would know that. We all would know that.

So you assume Brain Gutekunst lacks any sort of leadership?

What does holding LaFleur accountable look like? Specifically.

Outside of the Chiefs, what does accountability and leadership look like to you?

[go pak go]

While I agree that LaFleur had a down year and made some really dumb mistakes throughout the year, this was not the norm for him. These need to get fixed, no doubt, but they aren't some trend that Gutekunst has overlooked all these years. You assume Gutekunst isn't holding LaFleur accountable, why do you say that?

I would never assume Gutey would have the common sense to hold any of his underlings accountable. I said I would LIKE TO SEE Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. He doesn't. If he did, I would know that. We all would know that.

What does accountability look like? Moving his parking spot a row back?

Or stare at him and make sure the television camera catches it so we as fans feel better that accountability has been established.

[Pckfn23]

I would never assume Gutey would have the common sense to hold any of his underlings accountable. I said I would LIKE TO SEE Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. He doesn't. If he did, I would know that. We all would know that.

What does accountability look like? Moving his parking spot a row back?

Or stare at him and make sure the television camera catches it so we as fans feel better that accountability has been established.

That's good leadership right there.

[Yoop]

While I agree that LaFleur had a down year and made some really dumb mistakes throughout the year, this was not the norm for him. These need to get fixed, no doubt, but they aren't some trend that Gutekunst has overlooked all these years. You assume Gutekunst isn't holding LaFleur accountable, why do you say that?

I would never assume Gutey would have the common sense to hold any of his underlings accountable. I said I would LIKE TO SEE Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. He doesn't. If he did, I would know that. We all would know that.

What does accountability look like? Moving his parking spot a row back?

accountability is 3rd year receivers running proper depth routes, also tackles not setting up in 9 gap or so wide they have zero chance to block an inside counter, or the terrible technique our QB has again developed which is most likely the cause of his inaccurate throws, and low and high balls, or deep prevent that can't defend a 3rd and 10, If I tried I could name more instances were accountability seemed to be lacking.

but what I'am confused most about, is that everyone seems to be defending that stuff in here.

[go pak go]

I would never assume Gutey would have the common sense to hold any of his underlings accountable. I said I would LIKE TO SEE Gutey hold LaCoach accountable. He doesn't. If he did, I would know that. We all would know that.

What does accountability look like? Moving his parking spot a row back?

accountability is 3rd year receivers running proper depth routes, also tackles not setting up in 9 gap or so wide they have zero chance to block an inside counter, or the terrible technique our QB has again developed which is most likely the cause of his inaccurate throws, and low and high balls, or deep prevent that can't defend a 3rd and 10, If I tried I could name more instances were accountability seemed to be lacking.

but what I'am confused most about, is that everyone seems to be defending that stuff in here.

Everything you listed is reasonable. I agree we need to improve on these items. I didn't see much prevent on 3rd and 10 though. That is a big reason why our defense was ranked as well as it was.

[lake shark]

Addressing “urgency” would be trading a draft pick for a known commodity like a 3rd for DK Metcalf or Cooper Kupp a or a first plus for Myles Garrett. Trading up in the draft is too risky, for every Jalen Carter there is a Dallas Turner or Ricky Williams.

Regarding the draft Gutey needs to stop drafting projects based on superior athleticism in the top rounds (Morgan, Musgrave, Watson, Van Ness) and get players who are good enough athletes that can just flat out play football. Brian Branch is a good example who we passed up twice.

[Pckfn23]

Addressing “urgency” would be trading a draft pick for a known commodity like a 3rd for DK Metcalf or Cooper Kupp a or a first plus for Myles Garrett. Trading up in the draft is too risky, for every Jalen Carter there is a Dallas Turner or Ricky Williams.

Trading for a so called known commodity is just as risky. Same goes for signing those high end free agents. Plus, high end player trades just don't happen in the NFL.

It comes down to getting it right with the draft, trades, or free agent signings.

[Labrev]

With how underwhelming Gute has been in Day 1, I can actually kinda get behind going full Rams and just trading our R1 picks for players. They proved that it is a viable way to get a title if you bring the right guys aboard. John Schneider also experimented with that, but he was less good at it, although the Harvin trade arguably was worth it for the role he played in their SB win, even with what little else as they got out of it.

They aren't doing that this year with the draft in Green Bay, though.