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lake shark wrote:
23 Jan 2025 23:49
The Jets didn’t trade for Glenn. The news is badly written. The Lions are awarded the comp picks from the NFL (not the Jets picks) because they developed a minority coach who was hired by another team as head coach.

On another note, Saleh is poised to go back to SF as DC. Just what I feared when we hired him as an “offensive consultant”. Hope he signed a NDA…
These guys are all friends, very close friends. They've been talking football and strategy with each other for the past 20 years. I think they have an understanding of each other. I don't think any trade secrets were given away they didn't already know.

A couple 3rd rounders for 3 years of work. Not a bad incentive. Heck I might name all minorities on my team and let them take the credit just for the draft picks. Not that i'm implying Glenn wasn't worthy, that guy was probably the most important coach they had and I think he'll be more successful than the OC will be.

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lake shark wrote:
23 Jan 2025 23:49
The Jets didn’t trade for Glenn. The news is badly written. The Lions are awarded the comp picks from the NFL (not the Jets picks) because they developed a minority coach who was hired by another team as head coach.

On another note, Saleh is poised to go back to SF as DC. Just what I feared when we hired him as an “offensive consultant”. Hope he signed a NDA…
I remember when Carmin POlicy demanded and got a 2nd round pick from us for Mike Holmgren years ago, but that was different than this, the league asked us to settle that score because holmgren contract pre dated the no tampering rule established in 1990, that was not a compensitory pick, as you stated this is a dei rule which might confuse some so I brought a link


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... -explained

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Do we get a comp pick for Saleh?
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Do we get a comp pick for Saleh?
Pretty sure teams are only given picks if a minority becomes a HC or GM.
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NCF wrote:
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Do we get a comp pick for Saleh?
from a scientific perspective, I don't think so :box:

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Yoop wrote:
24 Jan 2025 06:16
lake shark wrote:
23 Jan 2025 23:49
The Jets didn’t trade for Glenn. The news is badly written. The Lions are awarded the comp picks from the NFL (not the Jets picks) because they developed a minority coach who was hired by another team as head coach.

On another note, Saleh is poised to go back to SF as DC. Just what I feared when we hired him as an “offensive consultant”. Hope he signed a NDA…
I remember when Carmin POlicy demanded and got a 2nd round pick from us for Mike Holmgren years ago, but that was different than this, the league asked us to settle that score because holmgren contract pre dated the no tampering rule established in 1990, that was not a compensitory pick, as you stated this is a dei rule which might confuse some so I brought a link


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... -explained
The Packers giving SF back it's R2 pick was more about the trade of Tim Harris to the 49ers while Wolf hid a drug charge Harris had with Brown County than any comp pick issue with signing Holmgren. Sure, Policy was mad about the Packers poaching Holmgren after the 9ers gave him a big signing bonus as part of his extension but the league was firmly on the side of the Packers in that Holmgren was fair game as far as hiring as a HC.

https://archive.jsonline.com/sports/pac ... 7861.html/

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lupedafiasco wrote:
24 Jan 2025 06:42
NCF wrote:
24 Jan 2025 06:31
Do we get a comp pick for Saleh?
Pretty sure teams are only given picks if a minority becomes a HC or GM.
that's how I read it too, and they are at the end of the 3rd round for 2 consecutive drafts, that article explains it well

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APB wrote:
24 Jan 2025 07:01
Yoop wrote:
24 Jan 2025 06:16
lake shark wrote:
23 Jan 2025 23:49
The Jets didn’t trade for Glenn. The news is badly written. The Lions are awarded the comp picks from the NFL (not the Jets picks) because they developed a minority coach who was hired by another team as head coach.

On another note, Saleh is poised to go back to SF as DC. Just what I feared when we hired him as an “offensive consultant”. Hope he signed a NDA…
I remember when Carmin POlicy demanded and got a 2nd round pick from us for Mike Holmgren years ago, but that was different than this, the league asked us to settle that score because holmgren contract pre dated the no tampering rule established in 1990, that was not a compensitory pick, as you stated this is a dei rule which might confuse some so I brought a link


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... -explained
The Packers giving SF back it's R2 pick was more about the trade of Tim Harris to the 49ers while Wolf hid a drug charge Harris had with Brown County than any comp pick issue with signing Holmgren. Sure, Policy was mad about the Packers poaching Holmgren after the 9ers gave him a big signing bonus as part of his extension but the league was firmly on the side of the Packers in that Holmgren was fair game as far as hiring as a HC.

https://archive.jsonline.com/sports/pac ... 7861.html/
thanks I should have brought that to clarify that circumstance :aok:

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APB wrote:
24 Jan 2025 07:01
Yoop wrote:
24 Jan 2025 06:16
lake shark wrote:
23 Jan 2025 23:49
The Jets didn’t trade for Glenn. The news is badly written. The Lions are awarded the comp picks from the NFL (not the Jets picks) because they developed a minority coach who was hired by another team as head coach.

On another note, Saleh is poised to go back to SF as DC. Just what I feared when we hired him as an “offensive consultant”. Hope he signed a NDA…
I remember when Carmin POlicy demanded and got a 2nd round pick from us for Mike Holmgren years ago, but that was different than this, the league asked us to settle that score because holmgren contract pre dated the no tampering rule established in 1990, that was not a compensitory pick, as you stated this is a dei rule which might confuse some so I brought a link


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... -explained
The Packers giving SF back it's R2 pick was more about the trade of Tim Harris to the 49ers while Wolf hid a drug charge Harris had with Brown County than any comp pick issue with signing Holmgren. Sure, Policy was mad about the Packers poaching Holmgren after the 9ers gave him a big signing bonus as part of his extension but the league was firmly on the side of the Packers in that Holmgren was fair game as far as hiring as a HC.

https://archive.jsonline.com/sports/pac ... 7861.html/
Wolf would never screw up a situation so badly. That was the previous regime. Wolf was hired in November 1991 after Harris had already been dealt.
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NCF wrote:
24 Jan 2025 07:26
APB wrote:
24 Jan 2025 07:01
Yoop wrote:
24 Jan 2025 06:16


I remember when Carmin POlicy demanded and got a 2nd round pick from us for Mike Holmgren years ago, but that was different than this, the league asked us to settle that score because holmgren contract pre dated the no tampering rule established in 1990, that was not a compensitory pick, as you stated this is a dei rule which might confuse some so I brought a link


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... -explained
The Packers giving SF back it's R2 pick was more about the trade of Tim Harris to the 49ers while Wolf hid a drug charge Harris had with Brown County than any comp pick issue with signing Holmgren. Sure, Policy was mad about the Packers poaching Holmgren after the 9ers gave him a big signing bonus as part of his extension but the league was firmly on the side of the Packers in that Holmgren was fair game as far as hiring as a HC.

https://archive.jsonline.com/sports/pac ... 7861.html/
Wolf would never screw up a situation so badly. That was the previous regime. Wolf was hired in November 1991 after Harris had already been dealt.
Yeah, you're correct. Wolf came on board a few months after Tom Braatz made the Harris deal.

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APB wrote:
22 Jan 2025 16:16
What a complete &%$@ show.

Looks like dumping the GM was the only way to get Bucs OC Liam Coen. Coen had negotiated a large extension but had not signed yet with the Bucs, but is taking the HC of the Jags. One day after Baalke was canned.

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APB wrote:
24 Jan 2025 08:09
NCF wrote:
24 Jan 2025 07:26
APB wrote:
24 Jan 2025 07:01


The Packers giving SF back it's R2 pick was more about the trade of Tim Harris to the 49ers while Wolf hid a drug charge Harris had with Brown County than any comp pick issue with signing Holmgren. Sure, Policy was mad about the Packers poaching Holmgren after the 9ers gave him a big signing bonus as part of his extension but the league was firmly on the side of the Packers in that Holmgren was fair game as far as hiring as a HC.

https://archive.jsonline.com/sports/pac ... 7861.html/
Wolf would never screw up a situation so badly. That was the previous regime. Wolf was hired in November 1991 after Harris had already been dealt.
Yeah, you're correct. Wolf came on board a few months after Tom Braatz made the Harris deal.
I glossed over the article , but missed this too

:thwap: you led me astray, Just Jeff would never do that, please proofread your corrections in the future :rotf: :rotf:

lots of particulars in that transaction, and now the other party concerned is taking over controls here next year, I think we'll be in good hands

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Ed Policy is taking over. Carmen Policy is Ed's dad.
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musclestang wrote:
24 Jan 2025 06:09
lake shark wrote:
23 Jan 2025 23:49
The Jets didn’t trade for Glenn. The news is badly written. The Lions are awarded the comp picks from the NFL (not the Jets picks) because they developed a minority coach who was hired by another team as head coach.

On another note, Saleh is poised to go back to SF as DC. Just what I feared when we hired him as an “offensive consultant”. Hope he signed a NDA…
These guys are all friends, very close friends. They've been talking football and strategy with each other for the past 20 years. I think they have an understanding of each other. I don't think any trade secrets were given away they didn't already know.

A couple 3rd rounders for 3 years of work. Not a bad incentive. Heck I might name all minorities on my team and let them take the credit just for the draft picks. Not that i'm implying Glenn wasn't worthy, that guy was probably the most important coach they had and I think he'll be more successful than the OC will be.
For those of you who haven’t been paying attention, the 49ers have already received 4 3rd round picks, 2 each for Mike McDaniels and Robert Saleh, respectively. That’s like 4 Rasul Douglas trades, without giving up Rasul Douglas.

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lake shark wrote:
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For those of you who haven’t been paying attention, the 49ers have already received 4 3rd round picks, 2 each for Mike McDaniels and Robert Saleh, respectively. That’s like 4 Rasul Douglas trades, without giving up Rasul Douglas.
So what happens if Saleh is hired as a HC again? Seems like there should be a limit both on the coach and for the team.
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Pckfn23 wrote:
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Ed Policy is taking over. Carmen Policy is Ed's dad.
thanks, another necessary correction :aok: , actually I was wondering about that after posting, but got a call and forgot to check on these two policy's, heck Carmon retired from the niners over 20 years ago :rotf: my bad.

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NCF wrote:
24 Jan 2025 09:39
lake shark wrote:
24 Jan 2025 09:36
For those of you who haven’t been paying attention, the 49ers have already received 4 3rd round picks, 2 each for Mike McDaniels and Robert Saleh, respectively. That’s like 4 Rasul Douglas trades, without giving up Rasul Douglas.
So what happens if Saleh is hired as a HC again? Seems like there should be a limit both on the coach and for the team.
I think DEI has worked well in coaching ranks because of these incentives, but it still lags behind with FO hires, all except with NE, who just broke the Rooney rule it was reported

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Pete Carroll is the new LVR coach, now only Dallas and the Saints are still without a HC

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A decade+ ago this would have been heavy hitting in the NFC playoffs.

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