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14 years straight the Patriots or Chiefs have been in the AFC Title Game.
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"It's better to decide wrongly than weakly; if you're weak, you're likely to be wrong anyway."
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- Bill Parcells
New England and Kansas City have 19 Conference Title Game appearances and 8 SB rings to show for it. (42% conversion rate from Final 4 to Champion)
Meanwhile the NFC's top teams of SF, Philly, and GB have 20 Conference Title Game appearances but only 2 SB rings to show for it. (10% conversion rate from Final 4 to Champion)
That is a lot of success and dominance between the three NFC teams to have the same amount of hardware combined as the flash in pans of the Giants or Bucs respectively.
More proof that the cakewalk is better than being "battle-tested." NFC is way more competitive, yet has fewer SBs for it.
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I’ve always agreed with this as well.
Having the home field advantage in the playoffs is huge. Packer fans poo poo it because they believe the Lambeau mystique is gone. I could care less if it’s gone or not. Not playing on the road in a hostile playoff environment where you have to go to silent counts is the real advantage.
The reason the Packers have fallen short over the years is because they come out with some type of league worst fault or just aren’t truly the best team in the conference despite their record. 2022 you come out at home but are not even league worst, we were as Andy Herman put it, a generationally worst STs unit. You come out at home in 2021 against the Buccs but they were just a better team. They slapped us both times we played them to give up some garbage points to make it close but they weren’t in any danger of losing. 2014 we were home but the 9ers just had a better team. 2012 we had a league worst pass defense.
Super Bowl teams dont get there by having league worst elements to their game.
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Crazy. Can't say the Chiefs have been exceptional at drafting since Veech came on board. They are still winning though.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Their roster really isn't anything amazing. Mahomes, Jones, that's it. There are better rosters than KC and better GMs than Veach.
But, they have great coaches, a Top-5 QB (who keeps playing like one in the biggest moments), stability in coaching (not constantly losing key guys), easy division/conference, and lots of playoff experience. Turns out, that's just as important if not more than roster talent.
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Strong disagree. They have the best QB in the league. They have the best C in the league. They have arguably the best DT in the league. McDuffie is one of the best CBs in the league. They have two of the leagues better OGs in the league with Thuney and Smith. Travis Kelce is still one of the leagues better TEs despite on the backside of his career. Then you go across the board and they just have a lot of other solid players. Leo Chenal, Nick Bolton, George Karlaftis, Isaiah Pacheco, Justin Reid. They dont have league worst position groups that kill them like the Packers have had in recent championship pushes. Last year we had by far away the worst S group in the league. We saw seen multiple times the Packers have league wide worst LB play. This is the first year in a long time I can say our roster, when healthy, didnt have a league worst issue. The problem was without Jaire this team might have had the worst group of CBs but they were still making it work somehow.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Jan 2025 12:20Their roster really isn't anything amazing. Mahomes, Jones, that's it. There are better rosters than KC and better GMs than Veach.
But, they have great coaches, a Top-5 QB (who keeps playing like one in the biggest moments), stability in coaching (not constantly losing key guys), easy division/conference, and lots of playoff experience. Turns out, that's just as important if not more than roster talent.
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They don't have Ladarius Gunther as their CB#1?
I'll give you McDuffie, but I otherwise stand by my take. Humphrey arguably is the best in the league sure but C is not a super impactful position. Bolton, Pacheco, Reid, etc. are all nice players but not field-tilters IMO, or anyone you have to gameplan around.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2025 12:58Strong disagree. They have the best QB in the league. They have the best C in the league. They have arguably the best DT in the league. McDuffie is one of the best CBs in the league. They have two of the leagues better OGs in the league with Thuney and Smith. Travis Kelce is still one of the leagues better TEs despite on the backside of his career. Then you go across the board and they just have a lot of other solid players. Leo Chenal, Nick Bolton, George Karlaftis, Isaiah Pacheco, Justin Reid. They dont have league worst position groups that kill them like the Packers have had in recent championship pushes.
KC certainly is a solid all-around team, which is impressive in a sense, but I think the intangibles is more what makes them great.
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Kelce was 2 of 4 for 19 yards in the AFCCG. The dreaded 50% catch rate. So their star offensive weapon wasn't very impactful and yet they still scored 32 and won. I am confused because I thought it was impossible to win CGs without 2 good receivers.Labrev wrote: ↑29 Jan 2025 19:07I'll give you McDuffie, but I otherwise stand by my take. Humphrey arguably is the best in the league sure but C is not a super impactful position. Bolton, Pacheco, Reid, etc. are all nice players but not field-tilters IMO, or anyone you have to gameplan around.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Jan 2025 12:58Strong disagree. They have the best QB in the league. They have the best C in the league. They have arguably the best DT in the league. McDuffie is one of the best CBs in the league. They have two of the leagues better OGs in the league with Thuney and Smith. Travis Kelce is still one of the leagues better TEs despite on the backside of his career. Then you go across the board and they just have a lot of other solid players. Leo Chenal, Nick Bolton, George Karlaftis, Isaiah Pacheco, Justin Reid. They dont have league worst position groups that kill them like the Packers have had in recent championship pushes.
KC certainly is a solid all-around team, which is impressive in a sense, but I think the intangibles is more what makes them great.
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Why is DK Metcalf such a popular trade candidate for us?? Why wouldn't Seattle want to keep him?
I love the idea of Garrett Wilson personally. He just seems done with NY. Maybe a new coach can buy him in, but he seems miserable.
1 year of a rookie contract, at least you are gettings some value from the cap front. Always hate the idea of giving up draft capital for someone on a fair market contract, when free agency exitsts. But 4th year and 5th year option would let this make sense.
The possibilities of Jaire or Doubs as a player in return, maybe the draft compensation doesn't need to be crazy.
I love the idea of Garrett Wilson personally. He just seems done with NY. Maybe a new coach can buy him in, but he seems miserable.
1 year of a rookie contract, at least you are gettings some value from the cap front. Always hate the idea of giving up draft capital for someone on a fair market contract, when free agency exitsts. But 4th year and 5th year option would let this make sense.
The possibilities of Jaire or Doubs as a player in return, maybe the draft compensation doesn't need to be crazy.
Agree, except don't think Jaire will bring much trade value and Doubs will bring exactly zero trade value. Maybe a team thinks they can make something out of LVN. Maybe Wilson for LVN and a 3rd could work.BF004 wrote: ↑29 Jan 2025 20:05Why is DK Metcalf such a popular trade candidate for us?? Why wouldn't Seattle want to keep him?
I love the idea of Garrett Wilson personally. He just seems done with NY. Maybe a new coach can buy him in, but he seems miserable.
1 year of a rookie contract, at least you are gettings some value from the cap front. Always hate the idea of giving up draft capital for someone on a fair market contract, when free agency exitsts. But 4th year and 5th year option would let this make sense.
The possibilities of Jaire or Doubs as a player in return, maybe the draft compensation doesn't need to be crazy.