Green Bay Packers’ News - 2025

[NCF]

This seems ax backwards to me, how does a 4th round pick make more than a 2nd rounder on a rookie contract, these are players cap dollars and yearly cash per player on roster now

Production incentives. Doubs has been more productive so has earned escalators that cost us on the cap.

[Yoop]

This seems ax backwards to me, how does a 4th round pick make more than a 2nd rounder on a rookie contract, these are players cap dollars and yearly cash per player on roster now

Production incentives. Doubs has been more productive so has earned escalators that cost us on the cap.

ahhhh ha, thanks for getting my head right you as well 23 , I new something was missing, all these bonuses and escalators clouded my understanding, Muskgrave 800K more than Kraft, and Kraft far out produced him, must not have had any bennies built into his contract, and that's just the difference based on draft slot picked

[Pckfn23]

“I think we all came in with a vision of being one thing and it transitioned to something totally different,” said Matt LaFleur at the NFL league meeting about Hafley’s defense. “Initially we were gonna jet off the football with our front and try to create havoc that way and then we started to play a lot more technique, playing with our hands and doing a better job in that regard and then from a coverage standpoint.

“I think the basis was gonna be more your 3-deep and we played a ton of split safety, but I think that’s — you gotta constantly evolve and adjust to the pieces that you have and I think that’s what coaching is, is trying to maximize each individual, put ’em in the best position possible to help the team win.”

https://www.espnlacrosse.com/2025/04/04 ... mains-key/

[BF004]

[MY_TAKE]

Yes he was and a big reason we won the super bowl in 2010/11

[Yoop]

Yes he was and a big reason we won the super bowl in 2010/11

I know it's 16 years later, but Yoho was so upset that my guy Mathews was sooooo'oooooo much better than that dweeb he suggested was better as a edge prospect , it seems as though he quit the forum now obviously that's not the reason he hasn't been around, but this forum sure misses his input come draft time, even though I rarely heard of some of his draft crushes, we all miss you Yoho and hope that your simply to busy with lifes daily grind.

as for the rest of you no shows, you need to take your huddle responsibilities more serious, I can't do every thing around here dammit

Harman seems to be pulling ahead of the group of possible picks still being available at slot 23, I still worry about taking a DT in the bottom third of round one, but this seems like a lot better than normal class.

[go pak go]

Yes he was and a big reason we won the super bowl in 2010/11

I know it's 16 years later, but Yoho was so upset that my guy Mathews was sooooo'oooooo much better than that dweeb he suggested was better as a edge prospect , it seems as though he quit the forum now obviously that's not the reason he hasn't been around, but this forum sure misses his input come draft time, even though I rarely heard of some of his draft crushes, we all miss you Yoho and hope that your simply to busy with lifes daily grind.

as for the rest of you no shows, you need to take your huddle responsibilities more serious, I can't do every thing around here dammit

Harman seems to be pulling ahead of the group of possible picks still being available at slot 23, I still worry about taking a DT in the bottom third of round one, but this seems like a lot better than normal class.

I like to call it how it is which usually means I need to lower yoop a peg or two but I do distrinctively remember yoop was one of the first and loudest Clay Matthews bandwagoners in Packerland.

The Draft was the same night as my Senior Prom and I had headphones in my head and heard the trade and drafting of Clay Matthews in my grand march. The only reason I really knew about him was because of how loud yoop was for Clay Matthews.

[NCF]

Yes he was and a big reason we won the super bowl in 2010/11

I know it's 16 years later, but Yoho was so upset that my guy Mathews was sooooo'oooooo much better than that dweeb he suggested was better as a edge prospect , it seems as though he quit the forum now obviously that's not the reason he hasn't been around, but this forum sure misses his input come draft time, even though I rarely heard of some of his draft crushes, we all miss you Yoho and hope that your simply to busy with lifes daily grind.

as for the rest of you no shows, you need to take your huddle responsibilities more serious, I can't do every thing around here dammit

Harman seems to be pulling ahead of the group of possible picks still being available at slot 23, I still worry about taking a DT in the bottom third of round one, but this seems like a lot better than normal class.

I like to call it how it is which usually means I need to lower yoop a peg or two but I do distrinctively remember yoop was one of the first and loudest Clay Matthews bandwagoners in Packerland.

The Draft was the same night as my Senior Prom and I had headphones in my head and heard the trade and drafting of Clay Matthews in my grand march. The only reason I really knew about him was because of how loud yoop was for Clay Matthews.

Everyone loved Maybin. I was more about Orakpo. Of course, if I had it my way, the Packers would have drafted Beanie Wells.

[Yoop]

Yes he was and a big reason we won the super bowl in 2010/11

I know it's 16 years later, but Yoho was so upset that my guy Mathews was sooooo'oooooo much better than that dweeb he suggested was better as a edge prospect , it seems as though he quit the forum now obviously that's not the reason he hasn't been around, but this forum sure misses his input come draft time, even though I rarely heard of some of his draft crushes, we all miss you Yoho and hope that your simply to busy with lifes daily grind.

as for the rest of you no shows, you need to take your huddle responsibilities more serious, I can't do every thing around here dammit

Harman seems to be pulling ahead of the group of possible picks still being available at slot 23, I still worry about taking a DT in the bottom third of round one, but this seems like a lot better than normal class.

I like to call it how it is which usually means I need to lower yoop a peg or two but I do distrinctively remember yoop was one of the first and loudest Clay Matthews bandwagoners in Packerland.

The Draft was the same night as my Senior Prom and I had headphones in my head and heard the trade and drafting of Clay Matthews in my grand march. The only reason I really knew about him was because of how loud yoop was for Clay Matthews.

for years I subscribed to Gil Brandt's college annual pre draft analysis, he felt Mathews would be a first round pick, that was months before the draft, so I got on board, was completely shocked when Ted traded back into round one to get him.

as to this peg or two stuff bloggers should call me for my opinions

[Yoop]

I know it's 16 years later, but Yoho was so upset that my guy Mathews was sooooo'oooooo much better than that dweeb he suggested was better as a edge prospect , it seems as though he quit the forum now obviously that's not the reason he hasn't been around, but this forum sure misses his input come draft time, even though I rarely heard of some of his draft crushes, we all miss you Yoho and hope that your simply to busy with lifes daily grind.

as for the rest of you no shows, you need to take your huddle responsibilities more serious, I can't do every thing around here dammit

Harman seems to be pulling ahead of the group of possible picks still being available at slot 23, I still worry about taking a DT in the bottom third of round one, but this seems like a lot better than normal class.

I like to call it how it is which usually means I need to lower yoop a peg or two but I do distrinctively remember yoop was one of the first and loudest Clay Matthews bandwagoners in Packerland.

The Draft was the same night as my Senior Prom and I had headphones in my head and heard the trade and drafting of Clay Matthews in my grand march. The only reason I really knew about him was because of how loud yoop was for Clay Matthews.

Everyone loved Maybin. I was more about Orakpo. Of course, if I had it my way, the Packers would have drafted Beanie Wells.

who was Beanie Wells?

[RingoCStarrQB]

I like to call it how it is which usually means I need to lower yoop a peg or two but I do distrinctively remember yoop was one of the first and loudest Clay Matthews bandwagoners in Packerland.

The Draft was the same night as my Senior Prom and I had headphones in my head and heard the trade and drafting of Clay Matthews in my grand march. The only reason I really knew about him was because of how loud yoop was for Clay Matthews.

Everyone loved Maybin. I was more about Orakpo. Of course, if I had it my way, the Packers would have drafted Beanie Wells.

who was Beanie Wells?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... llCh00.htm

[texas]

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/study-co ... ast-decade

Study Concludes Packers Have Had Worst Drafts Over Last Decade
With the 2025 NFL Draft just two weeks away, three studies have taken a look at how the Green Bay Packers have fared in recent drafts.

Lol

I have to say, when I reviewed BG's draft classes a few months ago, I too was taken aback by how bad they have been. Like we all remember the 1st round busts but I had just assumed we're picking up decent talent later on. In fact, not really.

He nailed Love and crushes FA, so he's not on the hot seat. But it's a serious problem.

[RingoCStarrQB]

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/study-co ... ast-decade

Study Concludes Packers Have Had Worst Drafts Over Last Decade
With the 2025 NFL Draft just two weeks away, three studies have taken a look at how the Green Bay Packers have fared in recent drafts.

Lol

I have to say, when I reviewed BG's draft classes a few months ago, I too was taken aback by how bad they have been. Like we all remember the 1st round busts but I had just assumed we're picking up decent talent later on. In fact, not really.

He nailed Love and crushes FA, so he's not on the hot seat. But it's a serious problem.

Gutey is a SheissenBumpst for a reason.

[lupedafiasco]

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/study-co ... ast-decade

Study Concludes Packers Have Had Worst Drafts Over Last Decade
With the 2025 NFL Draft just two weeks away, three studies have taken a look at how the Green Bay Packers have fared in recent drafts.

Lol

I have to say, when I reviewed BG's draft classes a few months ago, I too was taken aback by how bad they have been. Like we all remember the 1st round busts but I had just assumed we're picking up decent talent later on. In fact, not really.

He nailed Love and crushes FA, so he's not on the hot seat. But it's a serious problem.

I really disagree on the Love pick. No one can ever convince me that was a good pick. You had a 13-3 team on the brink of a championship and once we committed to that Love pick we spent the rest of that class getting players for a rebuild.

And the fan base loves to blame Rodgers for some reason… arguably the greatest statistical player in GB history for losses in 2021 and 2022 when that 2020 class should have been the one pushing it for a championship. Instead that entire class was either backups or bums and in most cases both like Dillon and Deguara.

TLDR. Gutenbumst is an average GM. He’s not good. He’s not one of the worst on the cusp on firing every year. That said it aligns with what I believe the Packers organization is ok with. Compete and your job is safe. Super Bowls don’t matter at all to the Murphy organization. As long as his job is safe he’s fine with the org playing it safe. Hoping for more pressure from Policy.

[RingoCStarrQB]

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/study-co ... ast-decade

Study Concludes Packers Have Had Worst Drafts Over Last Decade
With the 2025 NFL Draft just two weeks away, three studies have taken a look at how the Green Bay Packers have fared in recent drafts.

Lol

I have to say, when I reviewed BG's draft classes a few months ago, I too was taken aback by how bad they have been. Like we all remember the 1st round busts but I had just assumed we're picking up decent talent later on. In fact, not really.

He nailed Love and crushes FA, so he's not on the hot seat. But it's a serious problem.

I really disagree on the Love pick. No one can ever convince me that was a good pick. You had a 13-3 team on the brink of a championship and once we committed to that Love pick we spent the rest of that class getting players for a rebuild.

And the fan base loves to blame Rodgers for some reason… arguably the greatest statistical player in GB history for losses in 2021 and 2022 when that 2020 class should have been the one pushing it for a championship. Instead that entire class was either backups or bums and in most cases both like Dillon and Deguara.

TLDR. Gutenbumst is an average GM. He’s not good. He’s not one of the worst on the cusp on firing every year. That said it aligns with what I believe the Packers organization is ok with. Compete and your job is safe. Super Bowls don’t matter at all to the Murphy organization. As long as his job is safe he’s fine with the org playing it safe. Hoping for more pressure from Policy.

GutenSheissenBumpst hasn't done scheiss yet. Too much effing following Murphy's lead on things like the Tailgate Tour and the big upcoming NFL Draft, as well as the Titletown area creation plus the historic upgrades around town, and the Lambeau Field expansions and upgrades.
Let's win some more championships. Who is in charge of Green Bay Packers Efficiency, Responsibility, Accountability and Answerability ..... ?

[Labrev]

Gute's early drafts were light on good picks, but his last few have been a lot better, and he has been pretty active in FA his whole tenure and done a good job there.

TT drafted better to date but he put all his eggs in that basket, which was an issue after a string of bad draft classes, and after we kept making the playoffs every year and not picking as high or as easily able to move back (it's way easier to be good at drafting when you can just load up on picks).

[Yoop]

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/study-co ... ast-decade

Study Concludes Packers Have Had Worst Drafts Over Last Decade
With the 2025 NFL Draft just two weeks away, three studies have taken a look at how the Green Bay Packers have fared in recent drafts.

Lol

I have to say, when I reviewed BG's draft classes a few months ago, I too was taken aback by how bad they have been. Like we all remember the 1st round busts but I had just assumed we're picking up decent talent later on. In fact, not really.

He nailed Love and crushes FA, so he's not on the hot seat. But it's a serious problem.

I really disagree on the Love pick. No one can ever convince me that was a good pick. You had a 13-3 team on the brink of a championship and once we committed to that Love pick we spent the rest of that class getting players for a rebuild.

And the fan base loves to blame Rodgers for some reason… arguably the greatest statistical player in GB history for losses in 2021 and 2022 when that 2020 class should have been the one pushing it for a championship. Instead that entire class was either backups or bums and in most cases both like Dillon and Deguara.

TLDR. Gutenbumst is an average GM. He’s not good. He’s not one of the worst on the cusp on firing every year. That said it aligns with what I believe the Packers organization is ok with. Compete and your job is safe. Super Bowls don’t matter at all to the Murphy organization. As long as his job is safe he’s fine with the org playing it safe. Hoping for more pressure from Policy.

I'll never understand the reaction from fans over comments Mike Smith made concerning grooming a 12 slot edge rusher, and that it takes 3 years to coach these guys up, it may take 3 years for them to reach there ceiling, but we see edge rushers stud out often the first year, sure as heck better than we got from Gary or LVN.
I think Guty hated Rodgers, hated that he ruffled FO feathers over the last couple years with McCarthy and lack of receivers required for Mike's pass schemes to flourish, your right, Fans blamed Rodgers, when they should have blamed the insanity of using so many picks on defense when half never played up to draft status, so Gute wouldn't hop up and trade up for a receiver, and then did it for his futures QB, and that's what he's done with almost every first round pick, players for the future, that mind set needs adjustment.

He's done well in UFA, that alone gives him a passing grade.

[musclestang]

There's a lot that goes into being a GM. Is he the best over, heck no. Is he good, i'd say yes. Is he as bad as some of his draft picks, I'd say definitely not. heck, Bill B. had stinkers of drafts everywhere, but he made up for it in other ways.

Gutey has had some poor drafts, he's had some good ones. He's picked horrible players and hit some dandys. He's done pretty well in FA, he's released, cut and added responsibly and with some aggression at times and done very well. All in all, it's a definite good from me.

[texas]

Gutey has had some poor drafts, he's had some good ones. He's picked horrible players and hit some dandys. He's done pretty well in FA, he's released, cut and added responsibly and with some aggression at times and done very well. All in all, it's a definite good from me.

He has not had any good drafts yet imo. He has picked a few good players here and there over the years, none elite yet. He has done great in FA, maybe the best GM in the league in terms of getting unheralded guys who end up being All-pro level, imo.

Gute's early drafts were light on good picks, but his last few have been a lot better

I think this is more of an assumption than a given at this point. I thought this too, but then the entire WR corps regressed. So I think we can evaluate the recent classes in a few years and see.

I really disagree on the Love pick. No one can ever convince me that was a good pick. You had a 13-3 team on the brink of a championship and once we committed to that Love pick we spent the rest of that class getting players for a rebuild.

Yeah, this can be debated forever, but I am definitely in the camp that thinks that without Love being drafted, Rodgers has no motivation to snap out of his complacency. IIRC I even said before we drafted Love that we should take a QB so Rodgers can get his head out of his behind, even if that QB ends up being a total bust. Rodgers sort of confirmed the effect it had on his psyche in his Netflix documentary.

[lupedafiasco]

Yeah, this can be debated forever, but I am definitely in the camp that thinks that without Love being drafted, Rodgers has no motivation to snap out of his complacency. IIRC I even said before we drafted Love that we should take a QB so Rodgers can get his head out of his behind, even if that QB ends up being a total bust. Rodgers sort of confirmed the effect it had on his psyche in his Netflix documentary.

While I completely have always disagreed with this thought process, if true it’s an indictment on the entire organization that they couldn’t find any other way to motivate Rodgers than drafting a QB in the first round… trading up for one on top of that. It’s a total failure on the ability to lead Rodgers of its true.

You could have just as easily motivated Rodgers by taking a QB in the 2nd round and still getting a useful piece in the 1st round.