Pick 159 - Collin Oliver, Edge, OK State
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Pick 159 - Collin Oliver, Edge, OK State
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Sounds like a situational edge rusher/blitzer. Has off-ball LB experience, but is more just the pass rush. Undersized for that position, but has great tape. 240 pounds and 4.5s 40. Interesting to see how they use him.
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This is our small edge guy I've been wanting to get. A guy who just gets after the passer.
Honestly shocked on the double dip of WR and Edge as I thought these were the spots of need that didn't need the volume.
This is our small edge guy I've been wanting to get. A guy who just gets after the passer.
Honestly shocked on the double dip of WR and Edge as I thought these were the spots of need that didn't need the volume.
Basically the same build as KGB was.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:03Sounds like a situational edge rusher/blitzer. Has off-ball LB experience, but is more just the pass rush. Undersized for that position, but has great tape. 240 pounds and 4.5s 40. Interesting to see how they use him.
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PFF live stream says Joe Alt mentioned him and Myles Murphy as the two DL who gave him the most trouble blocking. And Alt said the speed he rushed with was just unreal or something like that.
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Milt also said while he doesn't want to pigeon-hole anyone, his initial role is "designated pass rusher," but also that Hafley has some things he wants to do formation-wise and to be more multiple that someone like Collin Oliver allows
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He can cut his teeth on ST while they find a place for him on D. I like him!
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Bukowski is very high on this guy. Says Oliver is his favorite pick.
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I liked this pick. Interested to see where he plays because I think he’s a LB. First guy I thought of was Lawrence Timmons from the Steelers back in the day who was pretty athletic and that could rush the passer but was a bit small.
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the goal is to stop the QB, our best PRWR came from off ball rushers, I bet some analytics dude finally read Packer Huddle and took note of some of our comments 
there's more than one way to skin a cat, Cooper had a sack or pressure almost every time we stunted him, same with Walker, same with most safety blitzes, and thank the sweet lord for that because our front 4 were so leashed up to stop the run they didn't accomplish much in the pass rush part of it, Sorrell is also a bit smaller, quicker, and also has drop and cover ability, deception is the key I think with increasing pressure, free rushes, avoiding blockers amounts to more success, I like both picks.
there's more than one way to skin a cat, Cooper had a sack or pressure almost every time we stunted him, same with Walker, same with most safety blitzes, and thank the sweet lord for that because our front 4 were so leashed up to stop the run they didn't accomplish much in the pass rush part of it, Sorrell is also a bit smaller, quicker, and also has drop and cover ability, deception is the key I think with increasing pressure, free rushes, avoiding blockers amounts to more success, I like both picks.
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Sounds from the scouts and GM that he's going to start as a designated pass rusher but his ability to play some LB was enough versatility for Gutey to feel better about that and for Hafley to do a couple different things formationally.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 23:15I liked this pick. Interested to see where he plays because I think he’s a LB. First guy I thought of was Lawrence Timmons from the Steelers back in the day who was pretty athletic and that could rush the passer but was a bit small.
And by sounds like, I guess I mean that is a direct summary of the comments. DPR, then some extras.
Special Teams had to be a huge consideration, too. A situational DE but LB body that should flourish on all Teams units. I have been dying for this kind of investment in a DPR. We are not talking about 1 or 2 plays a game. Situational pass rushers could get 30-40% of defensive snaps in any given game. Maybe even more.
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Yeah, team "change of pace" at pass rusher scored a win with this one.NCF wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 08:02Special Teams had to be a huge consideration, too. A situational DE but LB body that should flourish on all Teams units. I have been dying for this kind of investment in a DPR. We are not talking about 1 or 2 plays a game. Situational pass rushers could get 30-40% of defensive snaps in any given game. Maybe even more.
I honestly think they may have wanted a guy like this so badly that they sorta lied to Gutey and told him he could play LB so he'd get over his aversion to specialists (which he stated outright last year). He basically hasn't played off-ball with any kind of regularity since 2022, from what I've read/heard.
"They" being scouts and coaches.