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Don't need to be a fan, but do listen to reason. He is playing well.
Average.
For a Free Agent RT at $7 million per year.
I will take average. Average is a huge win for a contract like that. I mean if Turner/Wagner can buy us two years or so of solid RT play and let us draft and develop a good RT this upcoming draft as the replacement....that is tremendous success.
Turner learned Ravens, Dolphins, Broncos offenses before coming to GB and now he's in year 2 with MLF and Stenavich- so there's a chance he improves and some say he already has. The other part about FA OL is that he spent the first 5 years of his career blocking AFC DL- and now he has to learn the nuances of battling NFC DL. That's one area where Wagner has more experience coming in
I will take average. Average is a huge win for a contract like that. I mean if Turner/Wagner can buy us two years or so of solid RT play and let us draft and develop a good RT this upcoming draft as the replacement....that is tremendous success.
Yup, and as I've mentioned, it's a GREAT year to draft and develop a RT
Turner learned Ravens, Dolphins, Broncos offenses before coming to GB and now he's in year 2 with MLF and Stenavich- so there's a chance he improves and some say he already has. The other part about FA OL is that he spent the first 5 years of his career blocking AFC DL- and now he has to learn the nuances of battling NFC DL. That's one area where Wagner has more experience coming in
And again oh by the way.
Billy Turner has the highest win rate of any RT in the NFL who has played more than 75 snaps.
I remember reading about him a few years back. Aaron Jones had injured his knee and was out for a game or two. Then somebody posted about the size of his brothers' legs and said Aaron needed to follow suit and beef up his lower body. This one is kinda interesting, either the Packers are interested in having both brothers or they are just bringing him in to boost interest around the league as a favor to the Jones family
Is that good? No, seriously, is that good? It's good, isn't it?
What is the X axis? Does that chart the play of the QB?
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
What is the X axis? Does that chart the play of the QB?
Some kind of measure of efficiency. Expected Points Added/Play + Completion % over Expected.
Ok. The way I would read it then:
Quadrant I: efficient QB play and good offense
Quadrant II: less efficient QB play and good offense (supporting cast propping up QB play)
Quadrant III: less efficient QB play and poor offense
Quadrant IV: efficient QB play and poor offense (supporting cast not supporting QB)
Am I wrong on this?
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."