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I have often argued that those combine thresholds are the result of the player and what they show, vs the combine result being the factor.
E.g., players who visually show a good twitch, COD on the field, are going to better 3 cones and SS's. And I think the Packers (as least Ted), put a lot of emphasis on that, moreso than other teams. So it wasn't that there was a threshold, just the way we built our board, the players who show those specific traits were placed at a premium on our boards and were often BPA then when we were OTC.
Aside from like height preferences for positions like CB (which get broken), this kind of seems to make more sense to me than a billion dollar franchise putting in arbitrary thresholds based of people running in their underwear during the offseason.
However, as fans, if those combine numbers can become a predictive measure for who the Packers might target, then that's the fun part though.
E.g., players who visually show a good twitch, COD on the field, are going to better 3 cones and SS's. And I think the Packers (as least Ted), put a lot of emphasis on that, moreso than other teams. So it wasn't that there was a threshold, just the way we built our board, the players who show those specific traits were placed at a premium on our boards and were often BPA then when we were OTC.
They interviewed Ted in that Legacy series and he explicitly stated that they have athletic thresholds.
Has any information been released about how the draft will be covered for fans yet? We already know that every half senile and over-privileged GM won't be able to work their mouse and keyboard properly, and less so figure out a excel or google spreadsheet, and much much less so figure out how to reboot their modem/router if they need to. But I want to know how we are going to experience this new and wonderful bag of who knows what.
I heard there were a lot of prospects that will be live streaming from their residence.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Man, this draft will be an interesting experiment. There are a lotta prospects who didn't get all their workouts done before COVID-19 shut the Pro Days down.
Now GMs will have to go on tape alone for prospects who didn't get a combine invite or passed on some combine drills and who didn't happen to have early Pro Days.
This'll hurt especially some potential late rounders - usually teams throw some picks around on guys with good testing numbers, or at least take another look at their tape.
Goodwill announcing from his basement. Or in other words a floor in his house that is twice as big as my entire house.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
So what is the latest on mock draft sims these days?
TDN, I think its only okay. Gotta get premium to do trades and such
PFF, free, can do trades, I find the interface underwhelming and unresponsive at times
fan-speak - been around forever, I like this interface better than both the two above personally, can use ton of different big boards, can't trade
first-pick.com - been around for a very long time also, also think its user friendly. Can make trades, but they are so incredibly unrealistic. Don't get how they still update this year after year but won't tweak the trade algorithm
first-pick and TDN, can quickly see scouting report or info about players available, definitely helpful to have.
Anything else out there these days? Honestly don't particularly care for any of them on a large level.
So what is the latest on mock draft sims these days?
TDN, I think its only okay. Gotta get premium to do trades and such
PFF, free, can do trades, I find the interface underwhelming and unresponsive at times
fan-speak - been around forever, I like this interface better than both the two above personally, can use ton of different big boards, can't trade
first-pick.com - been around for a very long time also, also think its user friendly. Can make trades, but they are so incredibly unrealistic. Don't get how they still update this year after year but won't tweak the trade algorithm
first-pick and TDN, can quickly see scouting report or info about players available, definitely helpful to have.
Anything else out there these days? Honestly don't particularly care for any of them on a large level.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
TDN is nice, but I feel their player rankings are a bit whacky, which screws it up a bit and you can't pause or trade without a premium membership.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Is it just me or is it increasingly difficult to follow draft news, mocks, projections, etc. this year due to the Covid crap? I have less of a reason to tune into networks when there's zero sports, and home mostly doing housework (I get most of my posting/researching done at work ).
Around this time the draft always feels like it's months out, but we're less than two weeks away and I feel like I haven't even scratched the surface of prospects.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
That’s a good one. I personally am not as high on Harrison at ILB but I know some are. This makes for good completion at all the weak points on the team.
Stab #2. Any idea why AJ Green is ranked that high with that 40 time?
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I had a go at it -- first (and probably last) mock of 2020.
I wanted to experiment with a very specific strategy: target off-the-ball LBs (our biggest need, IMO) in the mids.
Queen was there at 30 but I pretended he wasn't. Murray and ofc Simmons were gone.
Also, I don't know anything about the prospects. I used the mini scouting-reports of the simulator to make snap decisions, pls no bully.
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Did some research, looks like pretty much all of these guys suck except for Reagor and Lawrence hahaha.
Awful! Just awful... good first 3 rounds! I don't know any of the others. Lawrence has been popping up a lot when I do these mocks. Might have to look into him.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Do NFL teams do mock drafts in kind of a table top exercise format? Like get 32 scouts in a room, each has a team, and go through it in a multiple scenario type format. If not, why not?
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Do NFL teams do mock drafts in kind of a table top exercise format? Like get 32 scouts in a room, each has a team, and go through it in a multiple scenario type format. If not, why not?
My understanding is that yes, they sure do. Several, in fact.
Do NFL teams do mock drafts in kind of a table top exercise format? Like get 32 scouts in a room, each has a team, and go through it in a multiple scenario type format. If not, why not?
My understanding is that yes, they sure do. Several, in fact.
Cool. Just wondering because when I do mocks, I try to look at who and what positions are available when, to get an idea of how to better structure a draft. For example, I can't get it to work where I realistically can get a LB I like in Round 3. Will that happen in the draft? No idea.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
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