Fiasco Mock Draft .65

[lupedafiasco]

Tough offseason coming up. Lots of hard decisions to be made do to poor cap management and use of draft capital. That said I believe this team wins a playoff game round 1 but loses in round 2 ending up with the 27th pick in this version.

Losses:
Corey Linsley- Its hard to pay everyone on the line. Ive said for a while I believe the plan is to play Jenkins at C and start Runyan at G which is what we saw this past week.
Kevin King- Unreliable whether thats on the field or availability. He is going to get paid because the league lacks CBs but he isnt worth it.
Mercedes Lewis- This has been wasted cap for years.
Lane Taylor- Old and oft injured.
Montravious Adams- He started to play a bit better but that doesnt mean much. Position needs improving
Jamal Williams- Dont pay RBs.
Aaron Jones- Again you dont pay RBs. Look at all the teams that regret it. Jets with Bell, Falcons with Freeman, Rams with Gurley, Cardinals with Johnson, Texans with Lamar Miller. The list is endless in the modern era. You (over)drafted a RB in the 2nd round. Make use of him.
Tim Boyle- Hes a fine backup but you dont take a QB in the 1st round and not have him be QB2.

Resign:
Tyler Ervin- Solid backup with some utility and doubles as a returner.
Robert Tonyan- Hes an RFA and the best TE on the roster.
Tyler Lancaster- Serviceable player who should be a rotational guy, not a starter. Cheap RFA.
Chandon Sullivan- Cheap RFA starter worthy at nickel.
Allen Lazard- Another RFA with enough talent to be rotational but shouldnt be a starter.
Raven Greene- Solid RFA with versatility.

Cut:
Preston Smith- Cut to save 8 million. We also eat 8 mil dead cap but thats what you have to do when you make decisions like you have down syndrome.
Rick Wagner- Waste of cap space paying 6 mil to pay an aging vet to be a swing tackle. Saves 4 and costs 2 mil and dead cap.
Christian Kirksey- This guy just isnt it. Saves 6 and costs us 2 mil.
Dean Lowry- Just doesnt cut it. Saves 3 mil and costs 3 mil to cut.
Burks- Doesnt really save us anything but when a team starts playing someone out of position just to find him a spot to play (Neal, Datone) its time to go.
Darrius Sheppard- If he makes it this far...lol
Devin Funchess- This dude is a lazy bum. Wouldnt show up for the season. Save about a mil and costs us a mil to cut.

FA:
Were poor as $%@#. I dont expect the cap to drop to this projected 176mil. I just think thats absurd. I think more likely the cap remains the same and then itll just have smaller than expected bumps in the future. This leaves us at 176 mil total and if the cap remains the same we have about 15 million to spend after the rookie contracts.
Antonio Callaway WR MIA- Ive always liked Callaway. He fits what we need from the slot. He can also return kicks and punts. Hes a playmaker with the ball in his hands but hasnt really been given much opportunity. We should be able to get him on a very cheap deal.
Lawrence Guy DT NE- Once a Packers draft pick hes been a very valuable piece to the Patriots front. Hes having a down year but so is that whole team. Hes a decent player with a ton of experience and should come relatively cheap on a 1 year deal I believe.

Draft:
I expect 2 4th round comp picks for Bulaga and Martinez and a 6th for Fackrell.

Round 1:
Shaun Wade CB OSU
Wade has played all over the defense for OSU as he has progressed throughout college playing Safety, nickel, and now outside CB. He has size and athleticism to be a good player and has shown the coverage skills in the slot to stick to guys. He needs to get better at locating and playing the ball but the experience is there. This is overall a really good CB class I think. Horn and Surtain are the top of the class. The highest ceiling is Fairley but he has a major lack of experience and I just wouldnt trust him. With King leaving the Packers need to find a new starter to pair long term with Alexander. Jackson just isnt the guy.


Round 2:
Tamorrion Terry WR FSU
I usually hate going after players like Terry early where they lack production do to really horrendous QB play (played with Hornibrooks bumass after he transferred) but Terry is just such a threat to score at anytime. At 6'4 205 this kid can beat people deep or get the ball short and break a game open. He definitely needs some development and can probably bulk up a bit more but I think he has potential to be a big time receiver who can do it all. This is another good year for WRs. It looks like I have Terry a bit higher than most but I think he rises and will go early 3rd so it isnt egregious.


Round 3:
Tedarrell Slaton DT Florida
This has been one of my favorite players this season. He is a big DT who can control and shut down a run game. Hes 6'5 but he understand leverage and hot to get low and use his size/strength to shut &%$@ down. Clark would be allowed to wreck havoc with a guy this big next to him in the run game. A cheap run stopper like this would go a long way for our defense.

Round 4a:
Charles Snowden Edge Virginia
Snowden is going off right now in the ACC. He had a sack against Miami, 4 against UNC, and 1 against Louisville in a 3 game stretch. Its worth a look for an early mock. Hes listed at 6'7 but only 235 so hes going to need to bulk up but at that length with some good coaching he could be very good.


Round 4b:
Dillon Radunz OT North Dakota St
Radunz is the LT for ND St and has been a great pass protector. His run blocking is &%$@ but its do to lack of experience. He has the length listed at 6'6 but hes in the low 300s and needs to bulk up a bit. Hes got good feet and technique for pass protection. Not to say he will be some great starter but I think hes a good project to develop behind Bak in case of injury and in the future who knows but I really like this prospect. He gave up 0 sacks in 2019.

Round 4c:
Chubba Hubbard RB Oklahoma St
I think I might have Hubbard too late in this one but oh well. I liken Hubbard to a faster Jamal Williams but with way worse blocking and hands. He has really good vision and has some breakaway potential. I wouldnt call him an elusive runner or a power runner but he does very well allowing blocks to develop and finding the right hole and getting through it. He definitely has the mind for being a ball carrier.


Round 5:
Paddy Fisher LB Northwestern
This is my guy. I had him in almost every mock last season before he decided to return to school. When you think of LBs that get in there on every tackle whether they need to or not this is that player. He loves getting in there and landing a hit. Not only that but he goes for the ball as he has forced a ton of fumbles in his career. Hes also a vocal leader and is usually pretty assignment sure. He does lack athleticism but he makes up for that with effort and intensity.


Round 6a:
Max Borghi RB Washington St
No running back in this class has been a more productive pass catcher. In 2 years Borghi has caught 130 passes. His hands are very good and his short area quickness is where he excels. He isnt a gamebreaker but he can be a mismatch player that can abuse linebackers in coverage. Hes a very good screen back that knows how to sell and set up blockers. As a runner hes definitely an outside zone guy. He is lacking in the size and strength department.


Round 6b:
James Wiggins S Cincinnati
Im not sure where Wiggins ends up as hes had a pretty injury riddled career. I always see that as discounted talent. Hes a really good player who kind of reminds me of Amos. He wont be a play maker but he wont screw you much either. His tackling is solid and shows he can put a good hit on someone when need be. He should go way higher than this if it wasnt for his history with injuries.

Round 7:
Ihmir Smith Marsette WR Iowa
This is a return specialist only. He really reminds me a bit of Trevor Davis. He has straight line speed for sure but hes very thin and lanky. He returned 2 kicks last season for scores and was 2nd in the big 10 with a 29.5 return average. The also handed the ball to him a few times and tried getting him the ball in space where he is best suited to succeed. Hes just not really a good receiver though.

[Christo]

I agree with you're comp picks, don't agree with most of you're draft picks.
No way Wade is there when the Packers pick, unless they move up. Don't see that happening.
Can't use a second round pick on a project like the FSU receiver. If he's that much of a gamble, he'll be there later.
Like the Snowden pick.
Like the Fisher pick. Blake Martinez 2.0?
With the extra comp picks, gotta use them on run stuffers.
Can't see the Pack drafting 2 running backs next year.
And, I've been calling for them to use a pick or 2 on a Hybrid LB/safety. If they insist on using that in the future, then they have to find good ones.

[BF004]

Draft:
I expect 2 4th round comp picks for Bulaga and Martinez and a 6th for Fackrell.

I actually think Bulaga falls under the Alan Faneca rule, can only get a 5th.

I think some confusion because he missed a full year and it doesn’t even show up on the stat sheet, but I think he is too old.

[lupedafiasco]

Draft:
I expect 2 4th round comp picks for Bulaga and Martinez and a 6th for Fackrell.

I actually think Bulaga falls under the Alan Faneca rule, can only get a 5th.

I think some confusion because he missed a full year and it doesn’t even show up on the stat sheet, but I think he is too old.

We lost Bulaga after 9 years. I could be wrong but I thought the Faneca rule applied to guys with more than 10 years. So we should be in the clear.

[BF004]

Draft:
I expect 2 4th round comp picks for Bulaga and Martinez and a 6th for Fackrell.

I actually think Bulaga falls under the Alan Faneca rule, can only get a 5th.

I think some confusion because he missed a full year and it doesn’t even show up on the stat sheet, but I think he is too old.

We lost Bulaga after 9 years. I could be wrong but I thought the Faneca rule applied to guys with more than 10 years. So we should be in the clear.

10 years, 2010-2019, he just didn’t play in 2013.

[Yoop]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

[lupedafiasco]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I do it every year. Someone else had done one already as well.

It has nothing to do with disappointment of the season. I expected to be a good team but not a Super Bowl winner.

[Packfntk]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I am old enough to remember a day where if we were 7-3, have a 2 game lead in the division, be the number 3 seed in the NFC, it was not considered a disappointing season. Man we are spoiled.

[lupedafiasco]

I actually think Bulaga falls under the Alan Faneca rule, can only get a 5th.

I think some confusion because he missed a full year and it doesn’t even show up on the stat sheet, but I think he is too old.

We lost Bulaga after 9 years. I could be wrong but I thought the Faneca rule applied to guys with more than 10 years. So we should be in the clear.

10 years, 2010-2019, he just didn’t play in 2013.

You’re right. I just counted the years I saw on his profile. Good call. That’s very unfortunate.

[lupedafiasco]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I am old enough to remember a day where if we were 7-3, have a 2 game lead in the division, be the number 3 seed in the NFC, it was not considered a disappointing season. Man we are spoiled.

That’s not being spoiled. That’s being conditioned. This whole organization and fan base is ok with being good enough.

[Drj820]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I am old enough to remember a day where if we were 7-3, have a 2 game lead in the division, be the number 3 seed in the NFC, it was not considered a disappointing season. Man we are spoiled.

That’s not being spoiled. That’s being conditioned. This whole organization and fan base is ok with being good enough.

I am not disappointed in the season. I do think no fans has taken some of the juice out of the season, but the chatter around the NFL seems about like it usually is. I would say the interest for college football has been majorly affected by Covid, not so much NFL. The team is what I thought they would be also. A good team, not great because we didnt address the areas in the offseason we needed to that would help us be great. I mean we are the exact same team as last year minus losing Blake and gaining some linemen lol

As for this discussion, I wonder what Jamaals market will be this offseason. It certainly has gone way up. I think he would be like the perfect Patriot as far as guys they usually bring in and what they ask their backs to do. If we must lose Jones, which i guess i support at this point. Hate to say that but i would hate to pay him a fortune just to give him 10 carries a game. We might consider bringing Jamaal back just to have someone who knows the O well, pass blocks great, and gets along with Rodgers. He might be good to still have in the rotation at what, $3-4 million per year?

I guess I just have no idea of what his market might look like

[Packfntk]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I am old enough to remember a day where if we were 7-3, have a 2 game lead in the division, be the number 3 seed in the NFC, it was not considered a disappointing season. Man we are spoiled.

That’s not being spoiled. That’s being conditioned. This whole organization and fan base is ok with being good enough.

[Cdragon]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I am old enough to remember a day where if we were 7-3, have a 2 game lead in the division, be the number 3 seed in the NFC, it was not considered a disappointing season. Man we are spoiled.

Being the 3rd seed is great if you think you can beat everybody ahead of you. Right now playing any team with all 3 phases working seems like a big challenge for us. Still time to put it all together, but today I'll take the top seed and let them beat each other up before they get to us.

[Packfntk]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I am old enough to remember a day where if we were 7-3, have a 2 game lead in the division, be the number 3 seed in the NFC, it was not considered a disappointing season. Man we are spoiled.

Being the 3rd seed is great if you think you can beat everybody ahead of you. Right now playing any team with all 3 phases working seems like a big challenge for us. Still time to put it all together, but today I'll take the top seed and let them beat each other up before they get to us.

Of course everyone wants the top seed. The top two teams are New Orleans and Seattle. By a thread. We beat New Orleans. Seattle's defense is historically record breaking bad. Where we sit is not a disappointment, or a failure at the moment.

[Yoop]

first time I remember seeing a mock draft with almost half the season to play, shows how disappointing this season has been.
it's a covid season, I'am grateful we are playing games at all, and now words out that the team will allow some sort of fan attendance

I am old enough to remember a day where if we were 7-3, have a 2 game lead in the division, be the number 3 seed in the NFC, it was not considered a disappointing season. Man we are spoiled.

I hear ya, I drove up from Ill. lots to watch us lose, and new outside of a act from the almighty himself that we'd lose before ever leaving Ill. I sorta feel blessed even when we lose this last 30 years cause with two of the best QB's ever it's always been just a temporary set back

[NCF]

Nice mock lupe, but since this is already derailing, I will add my two cents.

2010 vs 2011. Who would you pick to win a Super Bowl based on the regular season. The 2010 team that "proved" they couldn't beat Atlanta, dropped division games, dropped home games to lesser opponents, and didn't really have a signature win unless you want to count Philly in the opener, or the team that rolled through everyone?

This 2020 version of the Packers is still mind numbingly inconsistent after a nice 4-0 start, but even just that 1st-half against a pretty darn good opponent should give some hope that this team can get right. I do think our identity is 100% on the offensive side of the ball, though, and when you have back-to-back 3-and-outs in game, it opens you up for A LOT of bad things to happen. That is pretty much what happened against the Vikings and the Colts and to a lesser extent the Buccaneers. I haven't always agreed, but this team goes where Rodgers takes them. If he makes the plays and takes the pressure off, some of these other units might start building on the rare glimpses of competitiveness we have seen.

[Foosball]

I’d like to see the Packers get a shorter quicker receiver. Someone around 5-11 to 6-1. We already have a bunch of tall long striders.

MVS is great for the home run but I’d also like to see a WR who has quick moves to help get first downs. Right now that is all on Davante.

[Pugger]

I'd also like us to get better on the EDGE to go with Z. We can't continue to allow QBs to sit back there and pick us apart. We also need an ILB and a WR to compliment Davante. If we can fix these issues 2021 might be a lot of fun.

[lupedafiasco]

Nice mock lupe, but since this is already derailing, I will add my two cents.

2010 vs 2011. Who would you pick to win a Super Bowl based on the regular season. The 2010 team that "proved" they couldn't beat Atlanta, dropped division games, dropped home games to lesser opponents, and didn't really have a signature win unless you want to count Philly in the opener, or the team that rolled through everyone?

This 2020 version of the Packers is still mind numbingly inconsistent after a nice 4-0 start, but even just that 1st-half against a pretty darn good opponent should give some hope that this team can get right. I do think our identity is 100% on the offensive side of the ball, though, and when you have back-to-back 3-and-outs in game, it opens you up for A LOT of bad things to happen. That is pretty much what happened against the Vikings and the Colts and to a lesser extent the Buccaneers. I haven't always agreed, but this team goes where Rodgers takes them. If he makes the plays and takes the pressure off, some of these other units might start building on the rare glimpses of competitiveness we have seen.

That 2010 team was a complete roster once they got Starks in there. He made the offense capable to run the ball. Prior to that point they did t have a reliable run game.

Defensively the secondary was elite outside of Peprah. Bishop was a playmaker inside while Hawk was kind of the prevent big plays player. The pass rush with Cullen Jenkins gave a legitimate rush from both sides which was the problem I get in 2011 letting Jenkins go and not getting someone who could generate a pass rush opposite Clay.

The Packers proved in the regular season they could hang with the Falcons. Rodgers fumbled on the goal line if I remember right and when we kicked off to them before regulation Weems returned a big kick.

The 2010 team I felt could beat any team in the league. This was when we were drafting well and fresh off signing key veterans to bolster the roster.

This team I have no confidence in them beating anyone with a defense. I did not feel that way in 2010.

[YoHoChecko]

A lot to like here. The 3rd round DT sounds good, I'll look into him/keep my eyes out.

I don't like Terry much; at WR I really would like someone more refined if we go that route early.

Hubbard is DEFINITELY late. I know it's early to stay stuff like that but he seems late 2nd more than late 4th. I like Khalil Herbert of Kylin Hill in that range for some other options. Hill would be a really nice Williams replacement--pass pro and catching, ready to step in on day one--though you have something like that later (which I also appreciate).

CB early gets no complaints from me. Like going after the speedy return man with some ability to be sprinkled into the offense from time to time. I would like a thicker squattier slot option who is in that sort of RB/slotWR mold, but there's a nice job sprinkling weapons around this draft so that's a nitpick.

I think the OT is a bit late, also, but am definitely on board with the type--a guy who needs coaching but has traits--since we don't necessarily need a starter there this year.

And it's good to have a day 3 LB favorite. I'll look at him, as well.

All in all, you hit the needs, you brought some names, you expressed some traits and types that you want to prioritize. Good stuff.

As for the garbage side talk, I find that the weeks after wins I look into the NFL stats and trends and Packers stories. The weeks after losses, I look into draft stuff; it's just a way of focusing on football without getting drawn into the negativity that follows a loss around here.