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In the last 5 games we have created 9 turnovers. In the first 7 games we created 5 turnovers.
We have lost the turnover battle 4 times this year. We are 1-3 in those games with the only win coming against the Jaguars.
We have lost the turnover battle 4 times this year. We are 1-3 in those games with the only win coming against the Jaguars.
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Also, how about the first 5 rounds of that 2019 draft class right now?
Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Sternberger, Keke
1 borderline probowl player, I'll say it, most versatile lineman since Bruce Matthews
2 very quality starters (in sophomore years, no reason not to expect solid progression from here yet, both with incredibly high ceilings)
2 guys giving a lot of quality snaps
Pair that with adding guys like ZaDarius, Amos, Turner. Probowl caliber player and two very solid starters. That is one hell of an offseason.
Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Sternberger, Keke
1 borderline probowl player, I'll say it, most versatile lineman since Bruce Matthews
2 very quality starters (in sophomore years, no reason not to expect solid progression from here yet, both with incredibly high ceilings)
2 guys giving a lot of quality snaps
Pair that with adding guys like ZaDarius, Amos, Turner. Probowl caliber player and two very solid starters. That is one hell of an offseason.
Sorry, no. Gutey sucks and should be fired. Don't you read Twitter?BF004 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 09:50Also, how about the first 5 rounds of that 2019 draft class right now?
Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Sternberger, Keke
1 borderline probowl player, I'll say it, most versatile lineman since Bruce Matthews
2 very quality starters (in sophomore years, no reason not to expect solid progression from here yet, both with incredibly high ceilings)
2 guys giving a lot of quality snaps
Pair that with adding guys like ZaDarius, Amos, Turner. Probowl caliber player and two very solid starters. That is one hell of an offseason.
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Twitter? I don't have to go that far to read the former part of that statement.paco wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 09:58Sorry, no. Gutey sucks and should be fired. Don't you read Twitter?BF004 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 09:50Also, how about the first 5 rounds of that 2019 draft class right now?
Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Sternberger, Keke
1 borderline probowl player, I'll say it, most versatile lineman since Bruce Matthews
2 very quality starters (in sophomore years, no reason not to expect solid progression from here yet, both with incredibly high ceilings)
2 guys giving a lot of quality snaps
Pair that with adding guys like ZaDarius, Amos, Turner. Probowl caliber player and two very solid starters. That is one hell of an offseason.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Yeah Nauta had a good career at UGA. Happy to see what he can do on the PS.
I would be down to either see Kamal or Barnes get WAAAYYY more snaps, or bring in Earl Thomas. Earl may have just the kind of attitude this defense needs.
However, I probably would only want to go that route if Pettine continues to just refuse to give Kamal and Barnes the snaps my eye says they deserve. A potential locker room headache Earl Thomas would be much more favorable on the field than seeing Wil Redmon out there getting picked on in the playoffs.
I would be down to either see Kamal or Barnes get WAAAYYY more snaps, or bring in Earl Thomas. Earl may have just the kind of attitude this defense needs.
However, I probably would only want to go that route if Pettine continues to just refuse to give Kamal and Barnes the snaps my eye says they deserve. A potential locker room headache Earl Thomas would be much more favorable on the field than seeing Wil Redmon out there getting picked on in the playoffs.
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That draft is starting to look more impressive. Props Gutey.BF004 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 09:50Also, how about the first 5 rounds of that 2019 draft class right now?
Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Sternberger, Keke
1 borderline probowl player, I'll say it, most versatile lineman since Bruce Matthews
2 very quality starters (in sophomore years, no reason not to expect solid progression from here yet, both with incredibly high ceilings)
2 guys giving a lot of quality snaps
Pair that with adding guys like ZaDarius, Amos, Turner. Probowl caliber player and two very solid starters. That is one hell of an offseason.
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I am very, very nervous at plugging #25 in the rest of the year.Drj820 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 10:14Yeah Nauta had a good career at UGA. Happy to see what he can do on the PS.
I would be down to either see Kamal or Barnes get WAAAYYY more snaps, or bring in Earl Thomas. Earl may have just the kind of attitude this defense needs.
However, I probably would only want to go that route if Pettine continues to just refuse to give Kamal and Barnes the snaps my eye says they deserve. A potential locker room headache Earl Thomas would be much more favorable on the field than seeing Wil Redmon out there getting picked on in the playoffs.
Go with Martin.
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Gutey was executive of the year last year in my mind. No doubt about it; no one else even close. Giving both awards to the Ravens was overkill. Especially considering that replacing our HC was also part of that offseason--another great choice (even if that was more Murphy than Gutey)BF004 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 09:50Also, how about the first 5 rounds of that 2019 draft class right now?
Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Sternberger, Keke
1 borderline probowl player, I'll say it, most versatile lineman since Bruce Matthews
2 very quality starters (in sophomore years, no reason not to expect solid progression from here yet, both with incredibly high ceilings)
2 guys giving a lot of quality snaps
Pair that with adding guys like ZaDarius, Amos, Turner. Probowl caliber player and two very solid starters. That is one hell of an offseason.
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Entering Monday’s play, the Packers ranked second in total yards on offense and 11th in total yards allowed on defense. Only one NFL team, the Rams, have a better combined rank than the Packers’ 13. They sit at five, third on offense and second on defense. The Saints, 12th on offense and first on defense, are tied with the Packers for the second-best mark in the NFL.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
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Good thing they signed Rush:
JS Online - "Veteran Billy Winn suffered a triceps injury that could knock him out for the season"
JS Online - "Veteran Billy Winn suffered a triceps injury that could knock him out for the season"
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Is there a site that has tracked that over the decades?
I have always assumed that the one most important metric for W/L was turnover differential.
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Since 2000:
.788 when winning the turnover battle by any margin. Conversely, .212 when losing the turnover battle by any margin.
.676 when winning the turnover battle by 1. Conversely, .324 when losing the turnover battle by 1.
.832 when winning the turnover battle by 2. Conversely, .168 when losing the turnover battle by 2.
So, ya, I would say it is pretty important. Not sure if it is the most important, but has to be close.
.788 when winning the turnover battle by any margin. Conversely, .212 when losing the turnover battle by any margin.
.676 when winning the turnover battle by 1. Conversely, .324 when losing the turnover battle by 1.
.832 when winning the turnover battle by 2. Conversely, .168 when losing the turnover battle by 2.
So, ya, I would say it is pretty important. Not sure if it is the most important, but has to be close.
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We could use the dumbass Mccarthy metric of QB differential...which works great when you have a HOF QB...Pckfn23 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 13:15Since 2000:
.788 when winning the turnover battle by any margin. Conversely, .212 when losing the turnover battle by any margin.
.676 when winning the turnover battle by 1. Conversely, .324 when losing the turnover battle by 1.
.832 when winning the turnover battle by 2. Conversely, .168 when losing the turnover battle by 2.
So, ya, I would say it is pretty important. Not sure if it is the most important, but has to be close.
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What happens if a team is at home AND wins the TO battle?Pckfn23 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2020 13:15Since 2000:
.788 when winning the turnover battle by any margin. Conversely, .212 when losing the turnover battle by any margin.
.676 when winning the turnover battle by 1. Conversely, .324 when losing the turnover battle by 1.
.832 when winning the turnover battle by 2. Conversely, .168 when losing the turnover battle by 2.
So, ya, I would say it is pretty important. Not sure if it is the most important, but has to be close.