General Packers News 2020

[NCF]

OK, pretty dialed in on this guy as my current underdog/future star. How can you not root for this guy?

[Pckfn23]

then your main concern isn't giving up dink and dunk- the only way you're going to get beat is over the top.

See I don't necessarily agree with this. I think keeping Rodgers off the field and making your defense play 35-40 minutes a game is a bad strategy.

I agree that we need to mix it up and can't always play the same way every play. We do need to play a bit more aggressive, LaFleur saw that, so we have, for the most part.

[BF004]

Lol, Rodgers said in his presser he still likes going to grocery stores. Likes going to Fresh Thyme and just went to Woodman's and saw Grey Ruegamer there. I frequent both places myself, Fresh Thyme is probably my most ordered from grocery store on instacart.

Don't know why I think that's funny, just do. Bet he greatly enjoys getting to go out with a mask, prolly makes him way way harder to recognize.

[YoHoChecko]

I agree that we need to mix it up and can't always play the same way every play. We do need to play a bit more aggressive, LaFleur saw that, so we have, for the most part.

I think it's very circumstantial.

I think forcing opponents to string together long drives and have faith that they will make mistakes is a GREAT strategy when facing a bad QB or inconsistent offense. The likelihood that they will make you pay is low. The Bears did MUCH BETTER against that than I would have expected and STILL only made it to 16 points.

But you can't employ that strategy against a better offense with a better running game and a smarter, less-mistake-prone QB. Which is why against the Titans, we loaded the box to stop the run and relied on playmakers to make plays on the outside. That worked, too.

You play the best strategy to beat your opponent that week, not the best strategy on average or in aggregate. The BEST thing about our defensive performances the past 2 weeks, at least, is seeing that they are able to employ their defense successfully in different ways to suit different matchups.

[BSA]

then your main concern isn't giving up dink and dunk- the only way you're going to get beat is over the top.

See I don't necessarily agree with this. I think keeping Rodgers off the field and making your defense play 35-40 minutes a game is a bad strategy.

I agree that we need to mix it up and can't always play the same way every play. We do need to play a bit more aggressive, LaFleur saw that, so we have, for the most part.

The Packers are number 1 in the entire league in Opponent Time of Possession for 2020.
So that would suggest that Pettine's strategy is actually working and that your concerns are unfounded. The Packers don't have to win every battle in order to win the war. I know it bothers the fans, but you have to consider the Big Picture here and from that POV, there's merit in his approach

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/o ... -net-of-ot

[Christo]

Bakh gets a simple restructure planned at the time of his extension, saves a ton. Z probably, too, as you said. Push a ton into 2022-4, let the TV deal windfall bail us out (also planned), and then when Rodgers leaves in 23 or 24, we're back in good shape. The tv deal and the end of Rodgers career, plus some basic restructurings, will get the job done.

The NFL may be in for some tough times if they don't correct they're course. Everyone is assuming the next TV contract is going to be a monster. But viewership is down this year [ thanks to social justice clowns like Goodell ] and people are stuck at home for the most part.
And what the Eagles did this past Sunday may cause a massive problem for the league.
The main reason football has been so popular is because of gambling. Now we have a team tanking for a lower draft pick [ not even the number one ]
If this is allowed to continue, betting is going to fall off, because we have teams basically throwing games. Who in they're right mind is going to bet when you have to question if the game is fixed?
One has to wonder what Vegas is going to do with odds towards the end of next season when teams that have no chance of a playoff spot?
There may be some games next season that won't even have a spread because of the classy way the Eagles went about shafting everyone.

[YoHoChecko]

The NFL may be in for some tough times if they don't correct they're course. Everyone is assuming the next TV contract is going to be a monster. But viewership is down this year [ thanks to social justice clowns like Goodell ] and people are stuck at home for the most part.
And what the Eagles did this past Sunday may cause a massive problem for the league.

You are extremely wrong.

The next TV deals will be monsters. Every responsible and well-run organization is clearly planning for it (including ourselves and the Chiefs). Viewership may have been down slightly this year, but it is MUCH higher than it was the last time a TV deal was reached. Every year, the NFL has 45 or so of the top-50 rated tv programs of the year. Live television is decreasing and making advertising during live events MUCH more valuable (decrease of supply drives up price).

Stop thinking that your political point of view is going to crush the NFL. There is zero--absolutely zero--credible evidence of financial trouble on the horizon for the NFL right now. It is thriving. And the next TV deals, which will have streaming services fully established and ready to pay to play as well, has only increased competition for the NFL's broadcasting rights. There is no need for "assumptions," there are people paid to actually analyze and study this, and your anecdata tinged by your personal opinions will have no impact.

P.S. It's been a while since I graduated but my two undergraduate degrees are in Sports Business and in Economics.

[NCF]

Yeah, I don't know what else to say other than the NFL Doom & Gloom crowd is going to be dead wrong.

[BF004]

Yeah, NFL bigger than ever and going to keep growing, even if they give the appearance they are sympathetic to social causes that might deter only a small percentage of fans.

[Pckfn23]

I agree that we need to mix it up and can't always play the same way every play. We do need to play a bit more aggressive, LaFleur saw that, so we have, for the most part.

I think it's very circumstantial.

I think forcing opponents to string together long drives and have faith that they will make mistakes is a GREAT strategy when facing a bad QB or inconsistent offense. The likelihood that they will make you pay is low. The Bears did MUCH BETTER against that than I would have expected and STILL only made it to 16 points.

But you can't employ that strategy against a better offense with a better running game and a smarter, less-mistake-prone QB. Which is why against the Titans, we loaded the box to stop the run and relied on playmakers to make plays on the outside. That worked, too.

You play the best strategy to beat your opponent that week, not the best strategy on average or in aggregate. The BEST thing about our defensive performances the past 2 weeks, at least, is seeing that they are able to employ their defense successfully in different ways to suit different matchups.

While I agree with that, that's not what was happening earlier in the year. Those adjustments were not happening.

[Christo]

The NFL may be in for some tough times if they don't correct they're course. Everyone is assuming the next TV contract is going to be a monster. But viewership is down this year [ thanks to social justice clowns like Goodell ] and people are stuck at home for the most part.
And what the Eagles did this past Sunday may cause a massive problem for the league.

You are extremely wrong.

The next TV deals will be monsters. Every responsible and well-run organization is clearly planning for it (including ourselves and the Chiefs). Viewership may have been down slightly this year, but it is MUCH higher than it was the last time a TV deal was reached. Every year, the NFL has 45 or so of the top-50 rated tv programs of the year. Live television is decreasing and making advertising during live events MUCH more valuable (decrease of supply drives up price).

Stop thinking that your political point of view is going to crush the NFL. There is zero--absolutely zero--credible evidence of financial trouble on the horizon for the NFL right now. It is thriving. And the next TV deals, which will have streaming services fully established and ready to pay to play as well, has only increased competition for the NFL's broadcasting rights. There is no need for "assumptions," there are people paid to actually analyze and study this, and your anecdata tinged by your personal opinions will have no impact.

P.S. It's been a while since I graduated but my two undergraduate degrees are in Sports Business and in Economics.

No doubt the NBA thought the same way about 10 years ago. ratings threw the roof, nothing can stop us and so on.
Now try and find people who actually watch games, I don't know anyone who does. The finals were in the dumpster as were all playoffs across the board.
And you didn't address the problem of gambling. If no one has confidence in a fair game, no one bets it.
And all the degrees in the world won't change that.

[YoHoChecko]

And you didn't address the problem of gambling. If no one has confidence in a fair game, no one bets it.
And all the degrees in the world won't change that.

Gambling is SKYROCKETING because the Supreme Court just legalized it. Gambling hasn't been this big in generations.

As to the NBA, they had a contentious labor negotiation and lockout because teams claimed many of them were losing money a decade ago, so I don't know what you're talking about with them thinking they were on top of the world, but actually NOW they are. Their TV deal was so big it basically broke free agency for a year or two because teams had so much money to spend. The NBA is doing perfectly fine, also.

[Pckfn23]

then your main concern isn't giving up dink and dunk- the only way you're going to get beat is over the top.

See I don't necessarily agree with this. I think keeping Rodgers off the field and making your defense play 35-40 minutes a game is a bad strategy.

I agree that we need to mix it up and can't always play the same way every play. We do need to play a bit more aggressive, LaFleur saw that, so we have, for the most part.

The Packers are number 1 in the entire league in Opponent Time of Possession for 2020.
So that would suggest that Pettine's strategy is actually working and that your concerns are unfounded. The Packers don't have to win every battle in order to win the war. I know it bothers the fans, but you have to consider the Big Picture here and from that POV, there's merit in his approach

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/o ... -net-of-ot

A lot of that has to do with the offense having the best ToP per drive. What happens what that is not the case?

[Mazrimiv]

Can someone remind me why I give a damn about betting?

[YoHoChecko]

Can someone remind me why I give a damn about betting?

I work for a state budget office, so I can tell you, you probably want your state to get that revenue rather than through more generalized taxes.

But I don't think that's the answer you were looking for.

[Mazrimiv]

Can someone remind me why I give a damn about betting?

I work for a state budget office, so I can tell you, you probably want your state to get that revenue rather than through more generalized taxes.

But I don't think that's the answer you were looking for.

I think it's more a matter of every person I know who enjoys betting would not be deterred from betting by literally anything. The serious ones are aware of whatever factors are involved, and they account for it. The casual ones (like myself) don't much care. The idea that what happened in the PHI game caught any serious better off guard is absurd.

[Christo]

And you didn't address the problem of gambling. If no one has confidence in a fair game, no one bets it.
And all the degrees in the world won't change that.

Gambling is SKYROCKETING because the Supreme Court just legalized it. Gambling hasn't been this big in generations.

As to the NBA, they had a contentious labor negotiation and lockout because teams claimed many of them were losing money a decade ago, so I don't know what you're talking about with them thinking they were on top of the world, but actually NOW they are. Their TV deal was so big it basically broke free agency for a year or two because teams had so much money to spend. The NBA is doing perfectly fine, also.

I believe a good portion of they're money comes from China. Last I checked, the NFL has no following there.
And as for gambling SKYROCKETING, it won't last for long if you start intentionally throwing games.

[BF004]

Can someone remind me why I give a damn about betting?

Voluntary tax, mostly on the poor.

[BF004]

And you didn't address the problem of gambling. If no one has confidence in a fair game, no one bets it.
And all the degrees in the world won't change that.

Gambling is SKYROCKETING because the Supreme Court just legalized it. Gambling hasn't been this big in generations.

As to the NBA, they had a contentious labor negotiation and lockout because teams claimed many of them were losing money a decade ago, so I don't know what you're talking about with them thinking they were on top of the world, but actually NOW they are. Their TV deal was so big it basically broke free agency for a year or two because teams had so much money to spend. The NBA is doing perfectly fine, also.

I believe a good portion of they're money comes from China. Last I checked, the NFL has no following there.
And as for gambling SKYROCKETING, it won't last for long if you start intentionally throwing games.

Believe me, the NFL is aware there are untapped billions sitting overseas for them to dig into.

[Christo]

Gambling is SKYROCKETING because the Supreme Court just legalized it. Gambling hasn't been this big in generations.

As to the NBA, they had a contentious labor negotiation and lockout because teams claimed many of them were losing money a decade ago, so I don't know what you're talking about with them thinking they were on top of the world, but actually NOW they are. Their TV deal was so big it basically broke free agency for a year or two because teams had so much money to spend. The NBA is doing perfectly fine, also.

I believe a good portion of they're money comes from China. Last I checked, the NFL has no following there.
And as for gambling SKYROCKETING, it won't last for long if you start intentionally throwing games.

Believe me, the NFL is aware there are untapped billions sitting overseas for them to dig into.

I have no doubt the NFL is aware of that. whether or not the Chinese ever gain an interest in the game is another question.
The NFL has been around a lot longer, yet still remains on the outside there.