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He's only 32?!! Holy hell, I swear he has been in the league for 20 years!
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I’ve been calling Stafford to the pats for like a month.
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Lions fans seem to be expecting a monster haul for Stafford, as if he were Watson or something... I think they'll be sorely disappointed. What would you give for a QB who has a 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio and has never had a full season of 100+ passer rating?
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salmar80 wrote:
23 Jan 2021 23:12
Lions fans seem to be expecting a monster haul for Stafford, as if he were Watson or something... I think they'll be sorely disappointed. What would you give for a QB who has a 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio and has never had a full season of 100+ passer rating?
There are going to be enough teams fighting for him that they will get a good haul. Certainly a #1. His cap hit is about 15 million under market. Anybody could dismiss any negatives by saying, "Well he's been playing for the LIons." And there are a lot of positives. Teams that want him think they are a step away and a SB is worth a #1.

Send him to the Pats cause they finally have a team they are looking up at.

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Cdragon wrote:
24 Jan 2021 06:55
salmar80 wrote:
23 Jan 2021 23:12
Lions fans seem to be expecting a monster haul for Stafford, as if he were Watson or something... I think they'll be sorely disappointed. What would you give for a QB who has a 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio and has never had a full season of 100+ passer rating?
There are going to be enough teams fighting for him that they will get a good haul. Certainly a #1. His cap hit is about 15 million under market. Anybody could dismiss any negatives by saying, "Well he's been playing for the LIons." And there are a lot of positives. Teams that want him think they are a step away and a SB is worth a #1.

Send him to the Pats cause they finally have a team they are looking up at.
I’m not so sure. We will see but I think they get a 2nd at best. Older QB with a history of injuries and losing. Big contract that expires soon. Already lost leverage that he’s leaving.
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Does Jimmy G end up back in NE then?

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lupedafiasco wrote:
24 Jan 2021 07:12
Cdragon wrote:
24 Jan 2021 06:55
salmar80 wrote:
23 Jan 2021 23:12
Lions fans seem to be expecting a monster haul for Stafford, as if he were Watson or something... I think they'll be sorely disappointed. What would you give for a QB who has a 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio and has never had a full season of 100+ passer rating?
There are going to be enough teams fighting for him that they will get a good haul. Certainly a #1. His cap hit is about 15 million under market. Anybody could dismiss any negatives by saying, "Well he's been playing for the LIons." And there are a lot of positives. Teams that want him think they are a step away and a SB is worth a #1.

Send him to the Pats cause they finally have a team they are looking up at.
I’m not so sure. We will see but I think they get a 2nd at best. Older QB with a history of injuries and losing. Big contract that expires soon. Already lost leverage that he’s leaving.
He's got 2 years left at $20 and 23 million. That is really cheap. 32 isn't what it was and that is still before the old day when QBs fell apart at 35. His int ratio is a lot better than early in his career, he's been watching a ton of tape of AR and his game has changed. He missed 8 games last year otherwise he's played every game from 2011 to now. Yeah they lost, they are the Lions. People will take that into consideration. But don't underestimate desperation when a GM has one last shot at keeping his job.

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Pckfn23 wrote:
23 Jan 2021 21:40
He's only 32?!! Holy hell, I swear he has been in the league for 20 years!
It definitely feels that way.

Also, nobody is giving a #1.
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Fun fact: Stafford has earned an average of 3M more per year than AR during his career. He was among the last to cash in BIG before the rookie wage scale brought the highest picks' contracts to the realm of reason.

It'll be very curious to see what kinda compensation he warrants. Depends of whether there's a bidding war or not. I personally wouldn't dish out a high first for a 2-year rental... Maybe there's a team with an Oline and weapons ready, with just a hole at QB. :idn:
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Stafford will want a new deal with his new team.

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Just thought this was an interesting graphic.
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TheGreenMan wrote:
24 Jan 2021 07:47
Pckfn23 wrote:
23 Jan 2021 21:40
He's only 32?!! Holy hell, I swear he has been in the league for 20 years!
It definitely feels that way.

Also, nobody is giving a #1.
I think a 1 easy, prolly a 1 and a 3, maybe a future 2nd day pick as well.
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paco wrote:
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Just thought this was an interesting graphic.
Kenny Clark! IT IS TIME!
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BF004 wrote:
23 Jan 2021 21:54
I’ve been calling Stafford to the pats for like a month.
I could see this. First, it would not cost an arm and a leg to get him. HIs contract is very doable for them for the next two years. And in reality, he is not that bad of a QB. And I know I'll take some heat for this............But if you compare his stats to some other QB's He really isn't that bad. Now, the Interception percentage is a bit higher. Also, I only included the first 12 years of the other players. I think Hoodie could do well with him. Much better than with Cam.

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Rk             Player From   To  AV   G    QBrec  Cmp  Att Cmp%   Yds   TD Rate  Lng  Int   Sk  Yds  Y/A AY/A NY/A ANY/A
1           Tom Brady 2000 2011 159 161 124-35-0 3397 5321 63.8 39979  300 96.4   99  115  276 1712  7.5 7.67 6.84  6.98
2          Drew Brees 2001 2012 160 170  99-70-0 4035 6149 65.6 45919  324 94.3   86  165  234 1698  7.5 7.31 6.93  6.78
3    Matthew Stafford 2009 2020 130 165  74-90-1 3898 6224 62.6 45109  282 89.9   87  144  385 2496  7.2 7.11 6.45  6.32
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paco wrote:
24 Jan 2021 10:19
Just thought this was an interesting graphic.
This is awesome.

You know Rodgers throws from all over, but man Mahomes. Allen is very impressive too. In a way I think Allen plays much like Mahomes.
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The Lions will 110% get a first round pick for Stafford.

49ers or Colts.

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Raptorman wrote:
24 Jan 2021 10:55
BF004 wrote:
23 Jan 2021 21:54
I’ve been calling Stafford to the pats for like a month.
I could see this. First, it would not cost an arm and a leg to get him. HIs contract is very doable for them for the next two years. And in reality, he is not that bad of a QB. And I know I'll take some heat for this............But if you compare his stats to some other QB's He really isn't that bad. Now, the Interception percentage is a bit higher. Also, I only included the first 12 years of the other players. I think Hoodie could do well with him. Much better than with Cam.

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Rk             Player From   To  AV   G    QBrec  Cmp  Att Cmp%   Yds   TD Rate  Lng  Int   Sk  Yds  Y/A AY/A NY/A ANY/A
1           Tom Brady 2000 2011 159 161 124-35-0 3397 5321 63.8 39979  300 96.4   99  115  276 1712  7.5 7.67 6.84  6.98
2          Drew Brees 2001 2012 160 170  99-70-0 4035 6149 65.6 45919  324 94.3   86  165  234 1698  7.5 7.31 6.93  6.78
3    Matthew Stafford 2009 2020 130 165  74-90-1 3898 6224 62.6 45109  282 89.9   87  144  385 2496  7.2 7.11 6.45  6.32
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Generated 1/24/2021.
Won't get any heat from me about Stafford. I've always respected him, tough SOB too. I just don't think he's had the guys around him to actually make a run. He'll get something and lose something else. It never feels like a complete roster to me.
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Stafford is going to help whatever team he goes to, reminds me of when Drew Bledsoe went to Buffalo and was solid.

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Anyone actually.... watching the AFC game? I'm struggling to care.
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TheGreenMan wrote:
24 Jan 2021 17:59
Anyone actually.... watching the AFC game? I'm struggling to care.
I am, live in Rochester and am a Buffalo Sabres fan, family are Bills fans. This is the best team they've had since 1993 and can definitely see them winning it all. City will be lit on fire if they win. Definitely rooting for them here.

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