General Packer News 2021

[Crazylegs Starks]

wow, not sure if I should feel glad or sad glad obviously that you agree with me concerning this topic, but sad that it sounds like the first time

Not the first time. I'm pretty sure I gave you a 'like trophy' a couple weeks ago

[Yoop]

wow, not sure if I should feel glad or sad glad obviously that you agree with me concerning this topic, but sad that it sounds like the first time

Not the first time. I'm pretty sure I gave you a 'like trophy' a couple weeks ago

whew, ya had me worried

[texas]

Yeah but go all the way back to Elway tbh. The pattern has rewarded below-market QBs for a much longer time than this. The other thing is, your stats for the past decade are sort of skewed because Brady/Manning account for half of the Super Bowls. Before Brady's recent dominance, it really did skew young in addition to below-market.

Regardless, you need a good QB at a cheap price. Just a fact.

Going all the way back eliminates the argument about rookie wage scales because it used to be that early pick rookie contracts were top-of-the-market deals. For instance in 2011, Mark Sanchez had the highest QB cap value in the league based on the final year of his rookie contract. That's why I stopped when I did.

So before Brady's second streak of dominance, even if you had Big Ben and Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco all succeeding on rookie contracts, they weren't bargains or values or less expensive.

Plus, while Brady's wins put a tally in the column for taking less money, Manning's SB win was the only time a top-3 cap number won a SB ring. So lumping Brady and Manning together in this discussion is antithetical. They are opposite ends of the spectrum.

And on one hand, you can say Brady's win streak skews the numbers. But on the other hand, you could suggest a causal link--that maybe Brady winning all these Super Bowls is in part BECAUSE he took less money and his teams could always afford that one extra piece. There's certainly not conclusive evidence on that, but there also aren't a lot of examples of HoF QBs playing multiple seasons at the 60th or 70th percentile of QB contracts. The one example we do have has set the bar for dominance, suggesting it is something worth attempting to replicate.

My previous thinking on the subject (like pre-2014; I have noticed this for at least 10 years) is that mobility was clearly also a factor because between Elway and 2014 Brady there was like 1 QB over 30 (or 31 or something) to win it or some ridiculous stat like that. But clearly Brady and Manning are not mobile. It definitely seems like there is something about younger QBs that gives their teams an edge in the playoffs, as far as winning the Super Bowl goes, but not enough of an edge to beat Tom Brady.

[paco]

Me, dedicated. to not working

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[Crazylegs Starks]

Me, dedicated. to not working

[paco]

Lotta Will Fuller talk out there. Haven't we been down this road before?

[Yoop]

new ST's coach Drayton doesn't want to hear excuses, he wants consistency, the only one minus a burning blaze under there lower unit is our marvelous Kicker Mason " the leg" Crosby APB's favorite player

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-sp ... 36925.html

[Labrev]

Corey Linsley Expected to Get a "Monster Deal"
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... ee-agency/

Linsley's game is solid all-around, but he is patently not a monster on the OL, so if this report ends up being true... I'm out.

[Pckfn23]

Corey Linsley Expected to Get a "Monster Deal"
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... ee-agency/

Linsley's game is solid all-around, but he is patently not a monster on the OL, so if this report ends up being true... I'm out.

He's easily a top 3 center in the NFL. He without a doubt deserves to get paid like one.

[Labrev]

Corey Linsley Expected to Get a "Monster Deal"
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... ee-agency/

Linsley's game is solid all-around, but he is patently not a monster on the OL, so if this report ends up being true... I'm out.

He's easily a top 3 center in the NFL. He without a doubt deserves to get paid like one.

I mean, sure, but there is no C in the game I'd want to pay like they're dominant.

Whereas when Jenkins is up, I will throw money at the mofo.

[Pckfn23]

Corey Linsley Expected to Get a "Monster Deal"
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2021/0 ... ee-agency/

Linsley's game is solid all-around, but he is patently not a monster on the OL, so if this report ends up being true... I'm out.

He's easily a top 3 center in the NFL. He without a doubt deserves to get paid like one.

I mean, sure, but there is no C in the game I'd want to pay like they're dominant.

Whereas when Jenkins is up, I will throw money at the mofo.

I would for his versatility and youth, but outside of that I wouldn't pay him more than Linsley.

How much more dominant does Linsley need to be?

[Labrev]

How much more dominant does Linsley need to be?

Well, I cannot concretely articulate what constitutes dominant football play, but like the late Justice Potter Stewart once said of hardcore porn:

"I know it when I see it."

Spoiler

And since both of those things get my rocks off, it will be just that easy to tell!

[paco]

Ok Z, I'm cool with that. I think there is a good chance he gets an extension. Helps us now and locks up a good edge rusher. Dude is only 28.

[paco]

I'll post them when I see them.

[YoHoChecko]

I'll post them when I see them.

Yaassss, I'm thinking a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th, but I am expecting to be disappointed and get two 5ths and a 6th.

[paco]

I'll post them when I see them.

Yaassss, I'm thinking a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th, but I am expecting to be disappointed and get two 5ths and a 6th.

4th, 5th, 6th are what most are predicting. But seems we always miss out on one. Here's overthecap's prediction. Would love it if Bulaga bumped up to a 4th!

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[YoHoChecko]

Doesn't Bulaga fall into some perceived rule that you don't get better than a 5th for a more-than-10-year-vet?

[paco]

Doesn't Bulaga fall into some perceived rule that you don't get better than a 5th for a more-than-10-year-vet?

You are correct. I forgot about that rule.

[go pak go]

Doesn't Bulaga fall into some perceived rule that you don't get better than a 5th for a more-than-10-year-vet?

You are correct. Bulaga will be a 5 because of that weird veteran rule.

[paco]

With comp picks announced, of course I posted them in a different thread. Here's the Packers draft picks as of today.
R1: 29
R2: 62
R3: 92
R4: 135
R4: 142
R5: 174
R5: 178
R6: 215
R6: 220
R7: 254