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It wasn't Evans, it was Scotty Miller. Pretty clear the Bucs wanted their speedster, Miller, matched one-on-one against our lanky, long striding King. All Miller needed was a moments hesitation from King and he would be past him. King obliged and gave him several.
APB wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021 16:23It wasn't Evans, it was Scotty Miller. Pretty clear the Bucs wanted their speedster, Miller, matched one-on-one against our lanky, long striding King. All Miller needed was a moments hesitation from King and he would be past him. King obliged and gave him several.
Evans would have actually been a better match-up for King.
my bad, however wasn't it King who gave up that TD to Evans for Tampa's first TD, I have to go rewatch now, but that was from tighter off man, and whoever it was beat him just as quickly, pretty sure it was Evans, either way Terrible call against Miller.
How would these percentages look if Rodgers had run the ball on 3rd down with the ball placed at the 16 inch line after he was tackled out of bounds ........ with 4th and goal from the 16 inch line?Pckfn23 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021 08:21So a 33% chance of actually converting the 4th and goal from the 8. Then say a 50% chance of making the 2 point. So a 16.5% chance of making both. I think that really needs to come into play to, not just scoring. The model might be right on chance of scoring the TD, but without 2 point, it is all for naught.
I wish we would have gone for it, but I don't have enough of an issue with the FG to get worked up over it.
I dunno, I saw what he did with it after Brady's 3 INTs.
If we missed the 2 pt conversion we still have to get FG to take the lead unless we allow Tampa to score another FG then we'd still need a TD because we'd then be down by 5. No matter what we did there we had to get into the endzone twice - either for a 2 pointer or TD later on. I still say going for that 2 pointer earlier in the game was a bigger boneheaded decision and it came back to bite us.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021 14:28
Let's get back to this and go over what it means and maybe even if it is correct.
So, going for it gives us a 13% chance of winning. Kicking the field a 9% chance of winning.
33% is the likelihood of converting the 4th and 8 into a TD. I am not sure where they get this from as 4th and 8 is historically converted at a 12.8% clip. More analytics go into it, but 33% sounds WAY too high.
98% - Chance of making the FG.
4% - Chance of winning if go for it and fail
9% - Chance of winning if we kick the FG and get 3 points
31% - Chance of winning if we go for it and get the TD (not including the 2 pt.)
It would be interesting to see what the chance would be if we missed the 2 pt.
Yes indeed. The way the 2020 NFCCG game was played was so so irritating and agitating. LaCoach LaCoach LaCoach!! Time to dig out of this LaCoach. Bring the title back to Titletown LaCoach.Pugger wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021 12:39If we missed the 2 pt conversion we still have to get FG to take the lead unless we allow Tampa to score another FG then we'd still need a TD because we'd then be down by 5. No matter what we did there we had to get into the endzone twice - either for a 2 pointer or TD later on. I still say going for that 2 pointer earlier in the game was a bigger boneheaded decision and it came back to bite us.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021 14:28
Let's get back to this and go over what it means and maybe even if it is correct.
So, going for it gives us a 13% chance of winning. Kicking the field a 9% chance of winning.
33% is the likelihood of converting the 4th and 8 into a TD. I am not sure where they get this from as 4th and 8 is historically converted at a 12.8% clip. More analytics go into it, but 33% sounds WAY too high.
98% - Chance of making the FG.
4% - Chance of winning if go for it and fail
9% - Chance of winning if we kick the FG and get 3 points
31% - Chance of winning if we go for it and get the TD (not including the 2 pt.)
It would be interesting to see what the chance would be if we missed the 2 pt.
fans go ape &%$@ crazzzzzzy over the incidentals, problem is there are usually a bunch of incidentals, sure coaching blunders on both offense and defense hurt us, but imho thats not really why we lost, we lost because Jones, Adams, King, Sullivan, Barnes, Brown etc acted as though they where allergic to pork bellyRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021 15:37es indeed. The way the 2020 NFCCG game was played was so so irritating and agitating. LaCoach LaCoach LaCoach!! Time to dig out of this LaCoach. Bring the title back to Titletown LaCoach.
the incidentals that really mattered came down to our best players not making the plays that they had been making all year, but ya, both MLF and Pettine looked as though they new my doctor, Dr. Mari j Wana 
In the 3rd we scored on some nice drives that featured some running that while not terrriby effective kept the rush in check. We scored after the first pick. In the next two drives we went bombs away. He was sacked in each of the drives. His arm was hit as he threw. So there is 3 plays down. Lazard was badly held another no call. A back out of the backfield for a few. And MVS didn't get up the sideline. Not stellar but not all on AR either.
What did not materialize however was a 4th and goal from the 16 inch line. Might have then seen the 31Wedge working or not working at the NorthEndzone. Would have been epic ............ instead we're here talking about Linsley, Jones, Wagner, Kirksey, King, Pettine, Special Teams, LaCoach, Bakh's injury, Preston, Redmond, Sullivan, Runyan, RT, ILB, Front 3 or 4 (whatever it was it didn't work), Love, 2 point conversion ........Cdragon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021 20:35In the 3rd we scored on some nice drives that featured some running that while not terrriby effective kept the rush in check. We scored after the first pick. In the next two drives we went bombs away. He was sacked in each of the drives. His arm was hit as he threw. So there is 3 plays down. Lazard was badly held another no call. A back out of the backfield for a few. And MVS didn't get up the sideline. Not stellar but not all on AR either.
But we didn't just materialize on the 8 yard line. We got there with a run from Dillon and AR's arm. And if you were worried that we couldn't score from 8 yards out. What makes you think we were going to score from our own 20 or worse if we could force them to punt? Giving a HOFer a shot was the smart play. We were the top O, and the top in the RZ got to go for it.
haaaaaaa, they say it's a game of inches, and we came up 288 inches short, when ya say it like this it doesn't sound as bad as 8 yrds short, and how on Gods green earth possessed anyone to give Jimmy Taylors number to a defensive player, that right there should be cause for a reprimandRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021 12:05What did not materialize however was a 4th and goal from the 16 inch line. Might have then seen the 31Wedge working or not working at the NorthEndzone. Would have been epic ............ instead we're here talking about Linsley, Jones, Wagner, Kirksey, King, Pettine, Special Teams, LaCoach, Bakh's injury, Preston, Redmond, Sullivan, Runyan, RT, ILB, Front 3 or 4 (whatever it was it didn't work), Love, 2 point conversion ........Cdragon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021 20:35In the 3rd we scored on some nice drives that featured some running that while not terrriby effective kept the rush in check. We scored after the first pick. In the next two drives we went bombs away. He was sacked in each of the drives. His arm was hit as he threw. So there is 3 plays down. Lazard was badly held another no call. A back out of the backfield for a few. And MVS didn't get up the sideline. Not stellar but not all on AR either.
But we didn't just materialize on the 8 yard line. We got there with a run from Dillon and AR's arm. And if you were worried that we couldn't score from 8 yards out. What makes you think we were going to score from our own 20 or worse if we could force them to punt? Giving a HOFer a shot was the smart play. We were the top O, and the top in the RZ got to go for it.
Equally as bad as Amos wearing Taylor's number, was when Forrest Gregg was LaCoach and Willie Gillus, Vince Ferragamo, Don Majkowski and Curtis Burrow were issued Hornung's #5 jersey number. When Bart Starr was the LaCoach, Ray Nitschke's No. 66 was worn by linebacker Paul Rudzinski (in 1978) and nose tackle Mike Lewis (in 1980) (before Ray's number was retired in 1983). Jack Vainisi should be up there in Lambeau Field with Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021 13:13haaaaaaa, they say it's a game of inches, and we came up 288 inches short, when ya say it like this it doesn't sound as bad as 8 yrds short, and how on Gods green earth possessed anyone to give Jimmy Taylors number to a defensive player, that right there should be cause for a reprimandRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑21 Feb 2021 12:05What did not materialize however was a 4th and goal from the 16 inch line. Might have then seen the 31Wedge working or not working at the NorthEndzone. Would have been epic ............ instead we're here talking about Linsley, Jones, Wagner, Kirksey, King, Pettine, Special Teams, LaCoach, Bakh's injury, Preston, Redmond, Sullivan, Runyan, RT, ILB, Front 3 or 4 (whatever it was it didn't work), Love, 2 point conversion ........Cdragon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2021 20:35
In the 3rd we scored on some nice drives that featured some running that while not terrriby effective kept the rush in check. We scored after the first pick. In the next two drives we went bombs away. He was sacked in each of the drives. His arm was hit as he threw. So there is 3 plays down. Lazard was badly held another no call. A back out of the backfield for a few. And MVS didn't get up the sideline. Not stellar but not all on AR either.
But we didn't just materialize on the 8 yard line. We got there with a run from Dillon and AR's arm. And if you were worried that we couldn't score from 8 yards out. What makes you think we were going to score from our own 20 or worse if we could force them to punt? Giving a HOFer a shot was the smart play. We were the top O, and the top in the RZ got to go for it.
ever notice how completely moronic officiating is talked about for one day post game, and never to be spoken of again, take away the crap officiating and we beat the Bucs 3 or 4 out of 5 games, and even with the 4 drops, a few missed tackles, a couple bone headed coaching decisions I still like our chances to beat that team, Brady must have doled out some awesome vacation packages to these referee's
No, I am not advocating retiring the jerseys of all of those guys. Realistically that would never happen so why even expect something like that. Just sayin' that the guys I listed have the credentials to have their jerseys retired that's all.Half Empty wrote: ↑22 Feb 2021 09:08Just wanted to check on the meaning of the end of the post, with the emoji. Are you serious about the players mentioned as potential candidates for jersey retirements?
