General Packer News 2021

From Lambeau to Lombardi, Holmgren, McCarthy and LaFleur and from Starr to Favre, Rodgers and now Jordan Love we’re talking Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers football. This Packers Forum is the place to talk NFL football and everything Packers. So, pull up a keyboard, make yourself at home and let’s talk some Packers football.

Moderators: NCF, salmar80, BF004, APB, Packfntk

Locked
User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

paco wrote:
17 Mar 2021 11:32
Well that was good timing. :lol:
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
paco
Reactions:
Posts: 6718
Joined: 18 Mar 2020 15:29
Location: Janesville, WI

Post by paco »

Pckfn23 wrote:
17 Mar 2021 10:57
Ingalls was trying to tout some absurd $9.2 million number that really didn't make sense.
It wasn't absurd. Most of these guys get their info from a NFLPA site (I saw this mentioned by several cap guys and Packers media people). This is what was reported there so its what they used. It probably includes things that didn't have to be taken into account for today's number. But people are already confused by it, there is no use in confusing your average fan even more.
Image
RIP JustJeff

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

I mean if anyone doesn't think the Packers have a 2 year window you're fooling yourselves.
image.png
image.png (20.38 KiB) Viewed 608 times
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

So for Aaron Jones perspective, after two years he gets $20 million. I guess he looks at it that it's better to do this than be tagged.

This was a really good deal for the Green Bay Packers. And Aaron Jones is likely not a Packers after the 2022 season.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
salmar80
Reactions:
Posts: 4900
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:07

Post by salmar80 »

go pak go wrote:
17 Mar 2021 11:46
So for Aaron Jones perspective, after two years he gets $20 million. I guess he looks at it that it's better to do this than be tagged.

This was a really good deal for the Green Bay Packers. And Aaron Jones is likely not a Packers after the 2022 season.
Yeah, it's decision time before the roster bonus hits in 2023. There needs to be an extension or a restructure at that point, or Jones gets cut.

Jones would've earned $8.7M guaranteed with the tag. Now he gets 13M guaranteed and will earn 20M over the first two years. If he gets cut and re-enters the FA pool in 2023, he'd be 28 years old.

We actually could convert his 2022 roster bonus into signing bonus, putting his year 2 cap hit at just 6.75M. Or could restructure year 3, and bring that cap number down to manageable 12M.
Image

User avatar
NCF
Reactions:
Posts: 8293
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:04
Location: Hastings, MN

Post by NCF »

BF004 wrote:
17 Mar 2021 10:34
I think to try to reach an extension now gave Z too much leverage. Get this done first and now we have the basis to talk extension during the season or next offseason. Same thing, really, with Davante. Too much leverage to use their extension as part of the deal to get under the initial cap today.
Image

Read More. Post Less.

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

Looks like we are guaranteeing ourselves dead cap for Billy Turner with void years. Boy this team really is going for it.
image.png
image.png (55.4 KiB) Viewed 541 times
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

YoHoChecko
Reactions:
Posts: 9712
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 11:34

Post by YoHoChecko »

go pak go wrote:
17 Mar 2021 15:53
Looks like we are going to be paying for Billy Turner a long time down the road. Boy this team really is going for it.

image.png
Wow, don't love the tactics but I do feel like this year is a special circumstance. Also, 0.89M times 3 is still only $2.6M accelerated in dead money when the years void.

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

YoHoChecko wrote:
17 Mar 2021 15:57
go pak go wrote:
17 Mar 2021 15:53
Looks like we are going to be paying for Billy Turner a long time down the road. Boy this team really is going for it.

image.png
Wow, don't love the tactics but I do feel like this year is a special circumstance. Also, 0.89M times 3 is still only $2.6M accelerated in dead money when the years void.
I have resigned to the fact that their tactic is all in for '21 and '22. And if they win a ring it will all be worth it.

But it looks like they also did Turner just to get "by" and they can then work with Tae, Z or Rodgers as needed moving forward.

Like you stated. It's only $2.7 million of dead cap in '23 so they probably thought better to do that than make a move with our bigger contract guys.

Also, this certainly makes it appear that Billy Turner is going to be a Packer in 21 and 22 which likely puts less stress on NEEDING a high end RT in this year's draft. It costs the same to keep or cut Billy in 2022.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

YoHoChecko
Reactions:
Posts: 9712
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 11:34

Post by YoHoChecko »

go pak go wrote:
17 Mar 2021 16:12
Also, this certainly makes it appear that Billy Turner is going to be a Packer in 21 and 22 which likely puts less stress on NEEDING a high end RT in this year's draft. It costs the same to keep or cut Billy in 2022.
I mean, yeah; despite the baseless reservations a few board members have, he surprised us all and had a very good year at RT; I don't know how he's better at RT than he is at OG, but he is, so that's nice for us. It's still a very good year to draft the eventual replacement because the OT class is so deep, especially if you're not looking for a LT (even though the differentiation has mitigated over the years, it's still notable).

User avatar
go pak go
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13516
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:30

Post by go pak go »

YoHoChecko wrote:
17 Mar 2021 16:17
go pak go wrote:
17 Mar 2021 16:12
Also, this certainly makes it appear that Billy Turner is going to be a Packer in 21 and 22 which likely puts less stress on NEEDING a high end RT in this year's draft. It costs the same to keep or cut Billy in 2022.
I mean, yeah; despite the baseless reservations a few board members have, he surprised us all and had a very good year at RT; I don't know how he's better at RT than he is at OG, but he is, so that's nice for us. It's still a very good year to draft the eventual replacement because the OT class is so deep, especially if you're not looking for a LT (even though the differentiation has mitigated over the years, it's still notable).
Yeah. I'm just pointing it out because RT is not the desperate need that many are calling it is.

We definitely do need a 3rd Tackle though. Whether that is Runyan, Nijman or a rookie/UFA. I would be shocked if we got the UFA route.
Yoop wrote:
26 May 2021 11:22
could we get some moderation in here to get rid of conspiracy theory's, some in here are trying to have a adult conversation.
Image

User avatar
salmar80
Reactions:
Posts: 4900
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:07

Post by salmar80 »

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Image

User avatar
NCF
Reactions:
Posts: 8293
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:04
Location: Hastings, MN

Post by NCF »

I don't really want him to make more money than the last two years.

Image

Read More. Post Less.

User avatar
Backthepack4ever
Reactions:
Posts: 1088
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 21:19
Contact:

Post by Backthepack4ever »

Agree. Thanks but time to move on.

User avatar
salmar80
Reactions:
Posts: 4900
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:07

Post by salmar80 »

Marcedes was a dependable and VERY effective blocker last season, but at 37 years old, I'd imagine the Packers will look for a young & cheap blocking TE before dishing money his way.
Image

YoHoChecko
Reactions:
Posts: 9712
Joined: 26 Mar 2020 11:34

Post by YoHoChecko »

pay him the vet minimum as a player and the highest paid assistant TE coach in the league

(yes I know that's not how the salary cap works)

User avatar
BF004
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 13862
Joined: 17 Mar 2020 16:05
Location: Suamico
Contact:

Post by BF004 »

We are a better offense with him, he's still effective. Depends what kind of number, but I'd be excited to add him back.
Image

Image

User avatar
Pckfn23
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 14475
Joined: 22 Mar 2020 22:13
Location: Western Wisconsin

Post by Pckfn23 »

Between Tonyan, Sternberger, and Degura, I think we should be JUST fine. Were any of our lineman former TEs?
Image
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."

User avatar
Yoop
Huddle Heavy Hitter
Reactions:
Posts: 12352
Joined: 24 Mar 2020 09:23

Post by Yoop »

Backthepack4ever wrote:
18 Mar 2021 14:03
Agree. Thanks but time to move on.
to who though, he's still faster then most tackles and blocks just as well, I'd say let him go if we new more about Dequara, but he's a ? mark, and if Sternberger doesn't do better then last year in TC I"D send him packing.

User avatar
BSA
Reactions:
Posts: 1875
Joined: 14 Aug 2020 09:20
Location: Oeschinensee

Post by BSA »

salmar80 wrote:
18 Mar 2021 14:11
Marcedes was a dependable and VERY effective blocker last season, but at 37 years old, I'd imagine the Packers will look for a young & cheap blocking TE before dishing money his way.
Marcedes just wants a little more cash..nothing wrong with asking. Gute was glowing in his post-season review and Rodgers needs a peer on the age front. As far as young and cheeep - the Packers are attempting to convert former DL Bronson Kaufusi into a TE. He dropped 15 lbs and has been working in the offseason to remake his body into a TE. Marcedes would be the perfect tutor for the guy.

Here's his stats when he was a 285 lb DE, he's already down to 270 now. That 3 cone is damn good for that weight

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/bronson-kaufusi
IT. IS. TIME

Locked