2021 Free Agency

[BF004]

William Jackson signed a 3 year deal at $14 million each.

We would have to think Fuller is in that range correct?

I don’t know, he already willingly pseudo signed here once, I’d imagine the sell shouldn’t be very hard.

[BF004]

Go get Fuller. And Hayward. Lol Bears.

Looks like Eddie Jackson deleted his tweet. It was basically him doing this . And now Akiem Hicks is on the block. Bears are a joke.

They are going to suck anyways. What is the point of kind of not sucking? What is the point of being that 7-9 football team?

Because if they go 5-11 they’ll get fired.

Desperation is an ugly smell.

[Christo]

Go get Fuller. And Hayward. Lol Bears.

Looks like Eddie Jackson deleted his tweet. It was basically him doing this . And now Akiem Hicks is on the block. Bears are a joke.

The Bears can't even blow up they're team correctly. Looks as if they might be in 6 or 8 win hell for the foreseeable future.

[go pak go]

William Jackson signed a 3 year deal at $14 million each.

We would have to think Fuller is in that range correct?

I don’t know, he already willingly pseudo signed here once, I’d imagine the sell shouldn’t be very hard.

I want it so bad. I want Fuller more than Peterson.

I don't know what we can realistically do here. I always wanted like a 2 year deal out of a CB this offseason so we can draft one. Have them sit and then go with Jaire long term.

Just checked our 2022 cap situation.

We are already over $4 million over the cap in 2022 and that is even with the cap jumping from $182 to $209 million.

Fortunately we don't have much for FA's next year. I think MVS is honestly our only real guy we may want to consider resigning.

[salmar80]

Go get Fuller. And Hayward. Lol Bears.

Looks like Eddie Jackson deleted his tweet. It was basically him doing this . And now Akiem Hicks is on the block. Bears are a joke.

The Bears can't even blow up they're team correctly. Looks as if they might be in 6 or 8 win hell for the foreseeable future.

Their front office and coaches don't have the "popularity capital" for a rebuilding year. Ours would have, but they don't seem to believe in any kinda cyclical "push for SB, tank, then push again" -theory.

As a fan, it would've been fun to splurge in FA or to do a 1-year all-in push. But I'll settle for being the no 1 team in the NFC and returning 20 outta 22 starters, with the departures being a C we already have options at, and a CB we wanna replace anyways. And there's a lotta time left to make moves.

[Pckfn23]

And only 28 active contracts in 2022...

[go pak go]

And only 28 active contracts in 2022...

Yeah. I forgot guys like Adams are free agents I believe after this year too right?

[Pckfn23]

And only 28 active contracts in 2022...

Yeah. I forgot guys like Adams are free agents I believe after this year too right?

62.63% percent of the cap will be going towards Rodgers, Z Smith, Bakhtiari, Clark, and P Smith. That's just insane! No Adams

[Pckfn23]

And only 28 active contracts in 2022...

Yeah. I forgot guys like Adams are free agents I believe after this year too right?

62.63% percent of the cap will be going towards Rodgers, Z Smith, Bakhtiari, Clark, and P Smith. That's just insane! No Adams

Then Alexander, Amos, Jones, Turner, and Lowry are 24.91%. Top 10 guys, 87.54%. WOW!

[salmar80]

Yeah. I forgot guys like Adams are free agents I believe after this year too right?

62.63% percent of the cap will be going towards Rodgers, Z Smith, Bakhtiari, Clark, and P Smith. That's just insane! No Adams

Then Alexander, Amos, and Jones are 17.12%. Top 8 guys, 79.75%. WOW!

I ain't panicking, since neither Smith will see their 2022 cap number. Either extended (Z?) or cut (P), that'll free up a lot. There's a lot of room to play with the other top contracts, too. This does partially explain why Gutey ain't going nuts in FA.

But yeah, keeping All-Pro -level guys at premium positions does come with its consequences... What can ya do.

[Pckfn23]

It makes it tough to up that Rodgers cap hit in 2022, though.

[salmar80]

Saying goodbye is always hard, but at least we'll have the memories...

[go pak go]

I only brought in the 2022 cap number to illustrate we are already basically going all in. Keeping Preston and Jones was a move of going all in. People countered it with "we only signed a RB on a team friendly deal and haven't deferred cap so no we haven't gone all in"....and while I agree we could do more, and expect to do more, I think the Packers are looking at this as a 2 year window where I feel many here are only looking at one year.

For instance, I am okay with deferring some Rodgers cap if absolutely necessary, but I would rather do as little as possible only for the sake of having some ammo of getting to be able to do it in 2022; as we will absolutely need to do it.

I honestly don't believe we should sign Kyle Fuller from a dollars standpoint; however, I think we should sign him for a "go all in standpoint". I would view getting Fuller as that type of move. We absolutely can't do Fuller plus another though. That would really hinder 2022 unless both are at much better deals than I expect.

Our current top 51 is around $1 to $2 million to the good when you consider net money set aside for draft picks. I think we can get away with doing an extension of say Adams this year to lower his cap a bit, hopefully for 2021 and 2022, and use that money to sign a Kyle Fuller who also has a somewhat lower cap hit in 2021 and modest in 2022 before us needing to eat dead cap in 2023.

Then next year, you extend Z Smith's deal and defer some Rodgers cap to make your "last shot" before knowing the roster is going to have to be trimmed down going into 2023. Letting go of Rodgers alone will likely save about $20 million. It's going to be guys like Adrian Amos, David Bak, Aaron Jones, maybe Davante Adams and Robert Tonyan, Dean Lowry who won't make the roster after 2022.

And honestly I am fine with all of that. I think the Packers can go all in for this 2 year window while also starting to draft beyond. We can start looking at positions in 2023 that will need solid production at cheap labor like Offensive line to give Jordan time, CB to complement Jaire and Safety to replace one of Amos or Savage, defensive line to help dominate with Clark.

But yes. There is absolutely a price to having blue chippers on the roster. And that is okay....as long as your blue chippers play like blues when we need them to. Our's so far haven't.

[Scott4Pack]

62.63% percent of the cap will be going towards Rodgers, Z Smith, Bakhtiari, Clark, and P Smith. That's just insane! No Adams

Then Alexander, Amos, and Jones are 17.12%. Top 8 guys, 79.75%. WOW!

I ain't panicking, since neither Smith will see their 2022 cap number. Either extended (Z?) or cut (P), that'll free up a lot. There's a lot of room to play with the other top contracts, too. This does partially explain why Gutey ain't going nuts in FA.

But yeah, keeping All-Pro -level guys at premium positions does come with its consequences... What can ya do.

What you can do is go and win the SB!
:-)

[Scott4Pack]

Saying goodbye is always hard, but at least we'll have the memories...

Tears of joy. Oh, the memories!

[Christo]

Looks like Eddie Jackson deleted his tweet. It was basically him doing this . And now Akiem Hicks is on the block. Bears are a joke.

The Bears can't even blow up they're team correctly. Looks as if they might be in 6 or 8 win hell for the foreseeable future.

Their front office and coaches don't have the "popularity capital" for a rebuilding year. Ours would have, but they don't seem to believe in any kinda cyclical "push for SB, tank, then push again" -theory.

As a fan, it would've been fun to splurge in FA or to do a 1-year all-in push. But I'll settle for being the no 1 team in the NFC and returning 20 outta 22 starters, with the departures being a C we already have options at, and a CB we wanna replace anyways. And there's a lotta time left to make moves.

I'm not so sure. I live in the Chicago area [ for now ] and the fans are fed up with the state of the team. Blowing this team up and starting fresh with new people running the organization is very popular around here.
Can't understand how a team can build such a strong defense throughout the years and constantly stumble at finding a QB.
Obviously they can identify defensive players and running backs, even tight ends. But they really don't emphasize offense. They've been so content with average to less than average QB play, they don't know what to do in the modern NFL.

I kinda compare them to LSU. For years LSU had pro talent all over they're roster. Every year they put players in the NFL, both sides of the ball.
Yet when it came to a QB, it was like an afterthought. Even Matt Flynn was a last resort for the team that won a National title, and he was clearly the best option for them all along. Sort of a checklist the recruiters follow when on the hunt for talent. And way at the bottom of that list is QB. Then along comes Joe Burrow and that team obliterates everyone in they're path.

I'm not one of the people who think Nagy is a bad coach. He's in a situation where his front office can't give him the kind of players he needs to be successful. He's an offensive guy in a defensive minded team.

[APB]

Go get Fuller. And Hayward. Lol Bears.

At this point, I'd love to land Fuller but would settle for Hayward on a reasonable 2-3 yr deal while drafting high on a CB of the future. You can move the aging Hayward inside if he proves to be a liability outside thus diminishing the risk of a bust signing.

[YoHoChecko]

I was just looking through PFF's best remaining free agents and there are a LOT of CBs with some good potential value on that list, allowing for the teams to sort of pick and choose based on scheme fit and whatnot. Like a lot of them. Maybe ten of the top 50 remaining free agents (I could actually count them but I'm not feeling like it)

[BF004]

I was just looking through PFF's best remaining free agents and there are a LOT of CBs with some good potential value on that list, allowing for the teams to sort of pick and choose based on scheme fit and whatnot. Like a lot of them. Maybe ten of the top 50 remaining free agents (I could actually count them but I'm not feeling like it)

Xavier Rhodes I wouldn't mind at this point, likely lower price, year commitment. There was a point where I said I would trade anyone on the Packers straight up for Rhodes, must have been like back in 2015. No idea what the hell happened to him in MN, but seemed to have a great year last year.

I'd still like Richard Sherman too.

LIS earlier, I'd prefer brains and experience vs athleticism and upside for CB2 this year.

Malcom Butler another guy I got my eye one.


All 3 perfect stop gaps that A) doesn't stop us from taking a CB in the 1st round if we like on on the board, any of them could also allow us not to draft a CB at all if they conversely don't like the board.

[go pak go]

As a reference point:

Here is what they have on Kevin King for remaining top 100 Free Agents.

79. CB KEVIN KING
King has disappointed during his four years in Green Bay — the former second-rounder's highest-graded season was a 62.7 mark in 2019. He blew up the NFL scouting combine, running a 4.43 40 and posting 98th-percentile agility drills at 6-foot-3, but that agility has not shown up on the field, as King is often knocked off balance by good route runners. King has struggled mightily in zone coverage, ranking dead last in coverage grade since entering the league, and he’s been one of the worst tacklers in the league over the last two years. King has the size and athleticism to be effective on the vertical route tree, but he’s a reclamation project who likely needs a specific, limited role on his new team.

Contract Analysis: King’s elite measurables and draft status (33rd overall pick in 2017) will certainly work in his favor this offseason, and that could be the best way for King and his representation to pitch him as an option to interested teams. He has yet to put everything together in the NFL, but a change of scenery could go a long way.

Prediction: One year, $3.5 million. $1.5 million fully guaranteed at signing.